Conversation with 15 year old daughter

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I picked my daughter up last night from a night out with friends. As we were driving home, we had a conversation about boys. There is one boy in her high school that she had a small crush on for a while. They are friends, and she doesn’t have the crush anymore. Part of the reason is that this boy thinks he’s a Chad. He always has a girlfriend, and yet keeps hitting on anything that moves. My daughter doesn’t respect that, thank god. Another interesting think about the high school boys is they like to try to convince the girls into giving them blowjobs, with the line “it’s not really sex, so it’s no big deal.” My daughter is disgusted by the thought, and she’s yet to have a real boyfriend, so it’s not like she’s going to agree to that anytime soon.

So, I told her that her mom had told me about this, and she started laughing. For as much as I am not a fan of her mother (well documented on this site) we do communicate about the girls. So I told her this.

“If one of the boys tries to use that line on you, just look at him and say ‘Then why don’t just blow each other? Like you said, it’s not REALLY sex, so it shouldn’t be a big deal, right?'” She was dying laughing and said she would remember that one.

On the subject of her little Chad friend, I told her the think of the movie Monsters Inc. Her response, “Oh this should be good.” Then I explained about people and energy, and how there are some people that take energy from you and some that create energy with you. And there is always more energy for everyone when you create it together. I told her to think about it after spending time with someone, do you feel energized or drained after you are done talking to them? Think about the friends you just spent the evening with, did you have fun? Are you more energized or drained? She totally got the point and thanked me the conversation.

I couldn’t find a unicorn in my own generation, but maybe I can at least create one in the younger generation….

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 42]

Good one TaxGuy! I’d rather climb Mt Everest with CO2 bottles than to give advice to a teenage girl.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

no, sorry, your not raising a unicorn nawalt.

how long do you think you can keep your daughter from using sex to extort money from men?

i admit your daughter can have a heart of gold and good intentions, but what do you think is going to happen when she goes to college and see the other women using sex to extort money from men?

or using sex as a way to get the alpha male aka chad thunderc~~~ as a way to get self validation in the female hierarchy?

i dont want to make you angry, but the rest of the fathers also thought there daughter was in the magical 1% of nawalts out there.
Sheer probabilaty is against you, but hey, i will be very happy if you prove me wrong.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

hellraider wrote:

no, sorry, your not raising a unicorn nawalt.

how long do you think you can keep your daughter from using sex to extort money from men?

i admit your daughter can have a heart of gold and good intentions, but what do you think is going to happen when she goes to college and see the other women using sex to extort money from men?

or using sex as a way to get the alpha male aka chad thunderc~~~ as a way to get self validation in the female hierarchy?

i dont want to make you angry, but the rest of the fathers also thought there daughter was in the magical 1% of nawalts out there.
Sheer probabilaty is against you, but hey, i will be very happy if you prove me wrong.

No offense taken. I know it’s an uphill battle. As a father, you have to try. You are probably right that the rest of the fathers thought their daughter was a unicorn, but almost all of them are blue pill dads. I am hoping that having a red pill dad will make a difference.

Trust me, I will be there telling her that HER actions have consequences for HER. The one thing I will fight for as long as I’m alive is that she never looks at herself as a victim. It’s your life, you make your choices, and you live with and learn from the consequences. People that are truly victims I have sympathy for, people that try to create a victim status for themselves I despise.

It’s an odd situation to be a red pill guy with daughters. I hope that makes a difference for them. They will be much happier in life if they listen to their ol’ man.

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[RoyDalParticipant]

This young woman is supremely lucky to have a father as wise as you.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

You’re a good Dad! She’s lucky to have you in her life. I think becoming a full fledged Unicorn or NAWALT should not be the only acceptable outcome – whether realistic or not. But raising her to accept responsibility for her actions along with instilling good values in your daughter will go a long way to making her a productive and well mannered adult.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

your daughter will certainly be better than the typical entitled, modern western women.

i wish you best of luck.

also, remember that in a few years, you will have little or no control of her. Therefore, don’t be too strict. Otherwise she’ll dislike you.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Good for you, Taxguy. Your excellent parenting shows in your daughter’s great attitude – a rare gem among teenage girls.
Some may say it’s a losing battle but keep up the good fight.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Good for you TaxGuy. One less young women to be fooled by the lies of the feminist victim narrative.

[HitmanParticipant]

excellent job !
and having a red-pill father will make a world of difference !
thanks for the inspiration brother ..

[Anonymous 24]

Unicorns do exist. I was once riding a bicycle on a bike path in a city that was notoriously left wing hippie town. Well, I managed to overhear a bit of a conversation between three sixteen year old or so girls that had this premise put forth by one of them-

“My mother says that women should not look to men for money or wealth or anything to be taken from them, because this is not a real relationship, it is just theft and whoring.”

There was a little back and forth I heard, can’t remember the details. But what I was left with is that at least one of them had an awesome mother and that maybe, just maybe she would grow up to be a cool woman. Now who knows if this mother’s advice helped mold any of these young girls, but like with Taxguy, one can hope…

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Thanks guys. I’m sure she will do plenty of dumb things in her youth, we all did and still do. But if she learns personal responsibility and accountability she will be ahead of 99% of the women out there. And as I’ve said a few times before, I look at life like a marathon, her mother views every day as a 40 yard dash. So I don’t get too worked up over any one little thing as long as she owns what she does, so I don’t think she will ever get to the point where she won’t talk to me.

Again thanks for the support.

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[RennieParticipant]

hellraider wrote:

i dont want to make you angry, but the rest of the fathers also thought there daughter was in the magical 1% of nawalts out there.
Sheer probabilaty is against you, but hey, i will be very happy if you prove me wrong.

I tend to agree. It takes very little bad influence to lead them astray and into destruction and they will get plenty of that in college and beyond.

[OldBillParticipant]

All you can do is try, TaxGuy, and the fact that you’re trying means you’re a good father.

You’re up against a lot. Society, your ex-wife, your daughter’s friends, TV, movies, music, the internet, the forces ranged against you are not only numerous but also spend more time with your daughter than you do.

I suppose all you can do is lay the ground work for the inevitable “I warned you…” and “I told you so…” moments. She is going to f~~~ up because she’s human and when she does she’s going to come to you for unconditional understanding and support. While how you’ll provide that understanding and support is up to you, but you shouldn’t let the chance of a “teaching moment” slip by.

Your determination to teach her that actions have consequences is an admirable one and one I hope bears fruit.

Good luck.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[SimpleLifeParticipant 439]

Welcome to the forum. Quite the compelling story there.

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