Construction career?

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Hello everyone,

I am planning to go for a Construction program next year that will cover the very basics of carpentry, plumbing and electrical. My reason to choosing this program is to get expose to all of these aspects of building houses and then probably decide on what field I want to specialize in.

But I would like to get some advice from those of you in these fields. My interest is in carpentry, but as I understand this is seasonal work and a lot of guys may be out of work for months. Plumbing would be my second choice, because there is more work and as I understand a bit more secure and slightly higher pay. Now I would go to become an electrician as this is the most secure and highest paying out of three choices, but then you get a risk of getting yourself BBQed.

So if you guys have the time could you please describe in more detail what to expect, the kind of work you would do, pay, typical day as well as pros vs cons. I think a bunch of us wanted to go into these fields, so any advice would be greatly appreciated!

MGTOW AKBAR

[Anonymous 42]

Houses are rotting into the ground and the rest are becoming insolvent with high taxes and high unemployment.

It’s so refreshing to hear how great America is doing from Obutcher and the mass media! Looks like the college industry is in for rude awakening when the student loan bubble explodes just like the housing bubble exploded.
This economy is f~~~ing BOOMING!

I’m waiting for my taxes to reach the value of my second home that I can’t sell for half price, then I’m gonna burn it.

[HitmanParticipant]

all trades like these are good , practical fields.they cannot outsource your job.
we will always need construction .
pick the one that feels right for you during your studies.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Anonymous wrote:

Houses are rotting into the ground and the rest are becoming insolvent with high taxes and high unemployment.

It’s so refreshing to hear how great America is doing from Obutcher and the mass media! Looks like the college industry is in for rude awakening when the student loan bubble explodes just like the housing bubble exploded.
This economy is f~~~ing BOOMING!

I’m waiting for my taxes to reach the value of my second home that I can’t sell for half price, then I’m gonna burn it.

Yeah I am noticing a sharp increase in house prices. Vancouver implements a tax on property for foreigners, so instead they flock to the East Canada. The politicians are truly a bunch of lying scumbags, and raising taxes never solved anything except for making themselves richer. In fact, raising taxes only makes things worse because our living standards is going to s~~~. So the divide is even greater.

But thinking more about the future, I mean what jobs are going to be in “demand”, so we can at least survive. Won’t construction jobs be still needed for awhile at least?

MGTOW AKBAR

[TuneoutParticipant]

When I got out of the service I wanted to expand my electrical/mechanical skills with some plumbing as well.

The chances of you getting BBQ even when working on high power lines are pretty slim as long as you follow procedure.

I also got into self-employed contract work for hotels/office buildings which is quite lucrative.

There are other options such as remote oil & gas locations that are always looking for electricians
and pipe fitters.

Depending if you want to re locate or not check out what is in demand in your area.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

All are a good choice man. Specialize in one, but be familiar with them all. You can also do plenty of side work as a handy man. I’d say carpentry is the weakest of those choices. Many jobs are being taken by Mexicans, so to avoid having your job taken getting some knowledge in a skilled trade that is skilled labor. Unskilled labor is always at a risk for being shipped overseas or given to immigrant workers.

Skilled labor will always be in high demand. Do something complex enough to make money and so that your job won’t be taken.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Hitman wrote:

all trades like these are good , practical fields.they cannot outsource your job.
we will always need construction .
pick the one that feels right for you during your studies.

IF not outsourcing, the staffing agencies might want to infect these industries to leech of of hard working men. But I’m not sure about it, yet it’s possible that this could happen and yet again drive the wages down. This is my biggest fear with construction jobs. Is that some asshole/s will come up with “bright” idea on how to screw the working bees for the “greater” good of their own hive.

MGTOW AKBAR

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Just some wisdom.

A pal was a carpenter for his whole life.

At 50 can barely walk.

Hard on the body.

Jeez…I’m 30 now and have already bad knee joints. F~~~ man, this is depressing as F~~~! Is it the same with Plumbing and electrical? I suppose it’s not the best career choice if you can’t walk in your 50s??

MGTOW AKBAR

[Anonymous 42]

Learn all skills yes, but rely on any one of them? NO!

I use my bag of tricks just about every day to make my life better. Pluming, electrical, carpentry, and masonry are all skills where basic math is essential, same for welding and machinist, gotta sharpen your math skills. Then there’s tool skills which take training and time. An utter moron with a hard wheel grinder can injure himself and others 50 ft away, hand him a buffer and the wipers are gonna be torn of the car and all the high spots and edges will be burned down to the primer or worse.

It’s nice to be able to draft my own blueprints too. Go ahead and learn them all, they each complement each other and the more you learn the more easier it becomes to learn other trades. like upholstery and metal shaping have allot in common because in both you start with a paper template, like skins to a football, one is welded together and the other is sewn together. Soldering and welding are the same also, just different metals, techniques, and melting temperatures.

This society tries to make worker bees out of us, each assigned his duty and expected to preform that function for the rest of his natural born life. Master everything you can in the industrial arts, not just one narrow minded section, keep persevering in the things unknown and pocket all the overlapping skill sets along the way.

Knowledge and learning more to add to that knowledge is the key to success!

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Anonymous wrote:

Learn all skills yes, but rely on any one of them? NO!

Tower summed it up here.^

I do carpentry for the time being under a union.

Advantages:

-Pay and overtime “can” be good, with an emphasis on “can”.
-The skill set does transfer over if you wanted to make side cash.
-The option of working in nuclear power plants can help you make 60,000+ grand in about six months if you are willing to work and have a clear criminal history. With the exception of the radiation it is easier on your body.
-You work for unemployment, not a paycheck (regardless of what they say)
-You get to work “using your body” and move around more.
-Which the increase in technology some experts predicts a decrease in white collar jobs of about 60-70% with blue collar jobs decreasing around 33%.
-If you get in with the right company you can make 100,000+ grand a year.
-You can work when you want.

Disadvantages:

-Work fluctuates and at this point is rarely there.
-You work for unemployment, not a paycheck (regardless of what they say)
-The “artificiality” of the work and environment causes a massive amount of health problems. I know guys who are around 21 getting surgery for carpal tunnel (but I also think part of this is due to a bad diet, which leads me to the next point)
-Chances are you will adopt a poor diet and begin smoking (chances, not guaranteed)
-This is a very subjective point, so keep that in mind, but the work is very “empty” and “unfulfilling”. Because of the monotony of the work, do not be surprised that one of the thoughts comes into your head:
+”What am I building of any value?” (most commercial work is building chain retail stores, banks, etc.)
+”I am building a civilization which is trying to destroy me.”
+”I am tired of the miserable f~~~s I work with repeating the same story over and over again. Before they even begin their “divorce story” I can tell them to stop and tell them what it is before they utter a word. And all they will do is nod their head.”
-Get an injury and your f~~~ed or will have to work through a lot of pain.
-Heavy cliques. If you are not in a click you will be first to be laid off.
-Work is temporary and you are a replaceable number.
-The stuff you will work with is toxic. Most laborers die in their fifties. You can probably add carpenters to that list.

Neutral

-The union vs non-union thing is pure semantics in my personal opinion. One demands you to blow them while the other prefers to f~~~ them in the ass. It all depends on how you prefer to receive a giant elephant dick.

-The skill sets are continually changing as technology changes, so what you learn now will change in 10-20 years. If you don’t believe me, just ask an older journeyman or foreman.

Advice:

-Where face mask as most toxic s~~~ is breathable only.
-Avoid jobs with tools that emit a heavy “vibration” (jack hammer, etc.”)
-Practice bending at the knees or at the hips while keeping your back straight. Or in other words most guys get injured due to not keeping proper posture.
-Be the guy that is funny and everyone likes being around. With the exception of a few companies I have worked for, and this is strictly speaking only for me, I stayed around longer if I kept the people “laughing” rather than working hard. But I have had the fortune of being naturally witty, so this does not apply to everyone.
-Learn how not only to save money but also buy things “cheap”. Aldi’s, the dollar store, and any hunting season will cut the food bill to nothing if you are disciplined enough.
-Buy tools that will work, but not ones that are too expensive because they will probably be stolen or smashed at one point.
-Stay out of politics while pretending to be interested.
-Don’t work too hard. Stay at same pace as everyone else. (This was the hardest lesson for me, as I am naturally competitive. I cannot emphasize this one enough as either you will be laid off or given the s~~~ty stuff noone wants)
-Always have a back up plan in regards to employment because one day they will be saying you will be working for “x” amount of time, then you will be laid of before the end of the week.
-You are a replaceable number. Do not get upset when you get laid off.
-Always keep contacts and get to know those who you work with, while realizing you have no friends and you are on your own.
-Show up to work 15-20 minutes early.
-Most men who do this are miserable for a variety of reasons. Don’t be one of them.

I could probably add more for all categories, but this is a forum and there is only so serious I can take it. This should give somewhat of a picture.

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