Considering always wearing a body cam in public for personal safety.

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

Hey brothers,

I know I have another active topic, but I need to get some stress off my chest like breast reduction.

I work with some crazy bitches. Most of them are cunningly manipulative and lie to me on a daily basis. My guard is always up around them to avoid getting conned. They feign sensitivity through alligator tears, twist my words, try to fabricate what has been said and done during past interactions for their benefit, and loads of other bulls~~~. It is quite fascinating how each woman uses a different approach to manipulate people. Some are worse than others. And by the way, unicorns are a f~~~ing myth.

There is one woman in particular who is the loosest cannon. She is known by most employees as a liar, a cheat, and a client abuser. My management team put her on a probationary period 2 months ago for f~~~ing with the system. Her detention was recently lifted and she is out for revenge. I am her target.

I don’t want to get into the details, but she has been making false accusations about me since she was freed from her cage.
I have backed up every accusation as of yet with hard evidence and have proven my innocence to HR. I believe she is infuriated that I have been outsmarting her. This worries me.

I’m concerned that she will step up her game and make a false rape or violence accusation. As a universal precaution, I’ve been recording my daily activities with my iPhone’s voice memo feature. My companies forbids employees from all forms of recording due to the nature of our business. I strongly feel that it is necessary for me to break this rule for my safety.

The voice memo only captures audio. I’m considering adding a hidden body cam. I found a neat one only that has a tiny camera imbedded into the clip of a pen. It would supplement my voice memo plan nicely.

I know that it may sound like I’m behaving like a paranoid schizophrenic on meth, but please believe that I feel this is justified. I would be infringing on company policy, but recording daily life would give me peace of mind.

What are your thoughts?

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

Disclaimer: I do not hate women. I merely observe their manipulative nature and try to tactfully avoid getting crushed my them. Also, I did not execute the suspension of the woman at hand. Someone else pulled the trigger, but I’m am the target of retaliation. I do not hate this woman, I have distain for how she handles conflict. Just want to make it clear.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[Anonymous 5]

007 The funny thing is when you get a video of that c~~~ f~~~ing you out the window- H.R will still wanna see regardless of policies. It has saved my ass twice. Yeah thats right in my work the hidden cam has saved my ass. And don’t fool your self they want to see it. Just don’t put it in a email.

[kizellParticipant 368]

If your company forbids it, don’t do it.

Don’t put your career in jeopardy over your fear of a t~~~.

You, as a man, have no choice but rise above it. Understand YOUR job perfectly and strive to do it better than everyone else and don’t get caught up in women drama.

I too work with a large women workforce, and women will be women. Just don’t take part. Remind yourself constantly why you are there.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

007 (Reborn) wrote:

Disclaimer: I do not hate women.

No need to disclaimer that. There is a big difference between “hating women” and hating what women actually DO. You don’t ever need to explain or clarify for your attitude toward that. Women need to explain what the f~~~ they are thinking when they pull totally unjustified stunts. The problem is not when you decide to DO something about it…. you’re just making sure you’re not explaining yourself from behind bars.

007 (Reborn) wrote:

I need to get some stress off my chest like breast reduction.

Good one! I’m gonna use that someday.

007 (Reborn) wrote:

There is one woman in particular who is the loosest cannon. As a universal precaution, I’ve been recording my daily activities with my iPhone’s voice memo feature

Good. I’ve done that and it saved my ass. I didn’t even need to play it back. I just told them I recorded what they said and if they try a f~~~ing thing, I will make it my mission in life to destroy them. That was the end of it.

You can say anything you want to anyone if you say it with enough authority..

This is how I delivered it. Just like this:

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007 (Reborn) wrote:

I’m concerned that she will step up her game and make a false rape or violence accusation.

Well, you have it written here. So if anyone gives you a hard time, send them the link. It’s dated too. You can say you talked about it online and sensed a BIG problem, but you weren’t going to make an issue out of it, because THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL WORKPLACE AND NOT A DRAMA THEATRE. All said with confident smile and a calm tone like you find it SLIGHTLY amusing.

If she decides to start drama… MAKE SURE you are prepared.

007 (Reborn) wrote:

please believe that I feel this is justified.

You don’t need to convince anyone. Since there are no limits to the s~~~ she will pull, there are to be NO LIMITS to what you need to do to make sure she doesn’t get away with it.

Simple as that.

Don’t fight fire with fire. You fight fire with water.

In the mean time, kill her with kindness whenever you can and record that too.

kizell wrote:

your fear of a t~~~.

I am compelled to point out…. this isn’t “fear”. This is SENSIBLE.
Which is something she is NOT.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[kizellParticipant 368]

Have you considered documenting all conversations with Co workers? Most companies encourage this. Or you communicate through email (this is the exact practice I use). You can keep your own written records in a file. This way you are not breaking company policy

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

It’s against company policy? Who gives a s~~~ about that? It’s against your policy to permit a woman to pull crap like this under any circumstances.

MGTOW.COM policy is to never speak to women at work about anything other than work.

This is something you can say to her face and any HR department. “I don’t speak to women at work about anything other than work”. Nobody can nail you for that. If they try, point it out to them that this is a professional workplace and not a place for gossip or socializing. Then tell them they can promote you for that at any time.

[HitmanParticipant]

hmmm, 007 .interesting dilemma ..at the end of the day you have to save your own ass.
even if the body-cam isn’t permitted,the evidence could clear you from legal problems which could go from only workplace trouble to charges she could file outside work .
the cam could literally keep you out of jail ! i say do it and hope you don’t need to use it ..without it your’e in a worse spot than HR could put you in ..
IF it came down to it , let them know your lawyer will file for wrongful termination, and sue them for a hostile work environement ( the evidence you gathered will be enough to make them back down .
good luck with your mission 007 .

[kizellParticipant 368]

Total Lee wrote:

It’s against company policy? Who gives a s~~~ about that? It’s against your policy to permit a woman to pull crap like this under any circumstances.

MGTOW.COM policy is to never speak to women at work about anything other than work.

This is something you can say to her face and any HR department. “I don’t speak to women at work about anything other than work”. Nobody can nail you for that. If they try, point it out to them that this is a professional workplace and not a place for gossip or socializing. Then tell them they can promote you for that at any time.

While I find this post awesome and agree with its premise completely, I think we also must resign ourselves to the fact that HR departments are very anti – man and rarely act rationally.

I think it’s safe to say they would take this statement as sexist because certain ‘trigger words’ were used. However if the word “woman” was replaced with “co worker,” you should be ok

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

It might be illegal where you live. Tread carefully.

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[kizellParticipant 368]

I don’t know…..A body cam would be useful if you have to defend yourself (in court or in a hostile situation), but I seriously doubt it would help you in a wrongful termination lawsuit. I’m not sure any attorney would take on a case like that if their client willingly broke company policy unless a serious criminal element is proven within the cam.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

kizell wrote:

While I find this post awesome and agree with its premise completely, I think we also must resign ourselves to the fact that HR departments are very anti – man and rarely act rationally.

Roger that and I agree with you, but “we must resign” to nothing. Think about it. Resigning ourselves is not an option. I will never cow-tow to a department of t~~~s, and the moment you made up your mind to do this, it’s like wearing a Superman cape, and their pathetic bullets bounce off you like water off a duck’s back.

kizell wrote:

I think it’s safe to say they would take this statement as sexist

Safe to say? EVERYTHING is “safe to say” — including what these retards think is not “safe to say”.

Of course they will, but again, who gives a s~~~ how they interpret it? Fresh air is “sexist” to these kind of idiots. Just keep putting it in persepctive for them and drill the point home.

“I WILL NOT SPEAK TO WOMEN AT WORK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN WORK —- FOR THIS EXACT REASON. You are the reason this is required. This kind of bulls~~~ is a waste of company resources and so are you.”

Say it loud and say it clear right to their faces and enjoy every second of it.

They cam’t nail you on it. It’s impossible. ( Safe to say ).

Total Lee wrote:

point it out to them that this is a professional workplace and not a place for gossip or socializing.

Exactly. It would be like forcing them to promote you.

If you were the owner of a company, this is exactly the kind of person you want to hire and promote. The kind of person who will not gossip or socialize by the water cooler like women do, and who does their f~~~ing job while at work. Anyone who objects to this should be fired on the spot.

Say that out loud to the HR t~~~s, record it , and then send it to the CEO.

You have just increased your chances of being promoted and given a raise while the t~~~ts will now get nervous because you just called them out. How are they gonna defend that and say “YOU”RE WRONG!!!! THE WORKPLACE IS FOR SOCIALIZING!!!”. You have just turned them into idiots.

Anyone who has a problem with you saying “the workplace is not a place for socializing” should get the boot. And you can make it happen.

Sure they can still “fire” you but if the CEO doesn’t personally call you at home to thank you and lavish you with a better offer for that, then you’re working for the wrong company.

Remind yourself: You are not “resigned’ to a f~~~ing thing — the minute you decide you don’t want to be.

Checkmate.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Audio/video documentation has saved many backsides. If you work in the snake pit you describe, I would consult with an attorney specializing in employment law. It sounds like you are being exposed to a hostile environment. Don’t try to fix this on your own- get some help. Good luck.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

get a male attorney who specializes in employment/lawsuits.
Have your concerns documented by the attorney.
better safe than sorry when it comes to video/audio.

[narwhalParticipant]

It’s hard for me to provide recommendations on body cams. I just don’t know enough about your particular situation and have not had that kind of issue at work. If the woman is recently off probation, then her character is well known to the company. Regardless of what you do about the camera, I would not engage her in anything but work and do not talk in person without witnesses. I would also make it known to management that you do not like working with her. Be professional, but don’t give any evidence she could use to collaborate her lies.

As for a lawyer, it seems premature at this point. And I don’t know that a male lawyer is necessarily better. A female lawyer can be very cutthroat. Women have no guilt for tearing a part another woman, they pretty much enjoy it.

Ok. Then do it.

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

Thanks for your advice everyone! I’m in the clear for now. I have an alliance with a male HR Senior analyst/her supervisor who put her in her place. I didn’t have to do much. It was a great wake up call. I’ll now take extra precautions to guard myself from attacks.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

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