Consider A Trade As A Career

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    RoyDal
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    A while ago, I spotted an employment ad. A car dealership wanted to hire a mechanic. The salary was about the same as a department head at a major corporation (I have a friend who knows these figures).

    Let’s look at this.

    • The mechanic got where he was 10 – 20 years younger than the department head. That is a good head start in life!
    • The department head is in charge of about 100 people – so he is in the top 1% of his profession. (Or she / her, yeah yeah)
    • It’s fair to say the other 99 will never make department head money, much less mechanic money.

    For icing on the cake, the mechanic did not have to drag his ass through college. He has no student loans. He was never in danger of false rape accusations from the campus Nazis.

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    JollyMisanthrope
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    If you go through the training to work on luxury vehicles and high end sports cars you are probably going to be making a decent wage. Especially now that there is so much computer controlled equipment and it’s pretty much impossible for the average buyer to do anything but regular maintenance, and with that kind of money to spend I doubt they ever change their own oil or coolant.

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    VileNord
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    In my trade as a machinist, the wages have been stagnant for the last decade and a half or so. As technology has improved all aspects of manufacturing (from the company point of view), fewer and fewer people are required to effectively run a profitable machine shop. I’m not mentioning this just to be cynical, rather I just want to emphasize the fact that in order to make GOOD money in most trades today, you have to be REALLY GOOD at the job. Getting to that point does take a lot of time and requires a passion for the work. I’ve applied myself and have put in countless hours to get to the position that I am currently in, but there are still plenty of machinists in America who make less than $20/hr.

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    John Doe
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    You have to be careful what trade and/or union you join.  Some trades are dying, such as boiler makers.  Some have poor benefits working conditions.  Some you are basically a number with no rights.  Joining a trade is sometimes the better of two options, however I would not rely completely on it for a successful living.  You have to do a lot of research and even after the research, knowing someone is a must also.  As vilenord stated a passion is also required.  I am in the carpenter’s for the money only because it is the best economic solution for the time being.  It makes my job more difficult in that aspect because the trades do require attention to detail.

    The current state of trades do not guarantee success either. I have known quite a few union carpenters who say they would not be able to even feed themselves without unemployment.  Or got laid off out of nowhere after 20-30 years of service.  There are so many tradesmen in some fields, that if you make one f~~~ up, they can afford to replace you with someone else in 24 hours.  What type of career is that?  Do not expect loyalty in the trades.  You are a number, that is all.

    I also know a few that are successful, but they will work continually to be so.  Many will not see their families for weeks, months.  At the very best just 1-2 hours per day. How successful can you be without a balanced life?  Money is not worth some things.  It always amazed me the men who decide to go into a trade to get money for their family, but work so much or go somewhere else and they can never see them.  It does not make any sense to me.  However many MGTOWs do not have families for a variety of reasons, so this suject can be solved by a coin toss.

    On the other hand, if you do not go union, you will get lower pay with more working hours and more experience.  And still very little rights.

    Based on my limited observation, there is no clear cut direction for economic success.  It is sort of a “your on your own free for all” out there.    If you are going into the trades you will have to way out the benefits and costs before you commit.  Do a lot of research before you go in.

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    Mendokusai
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    Trades are in big demand up here in northern Canada and they pay at least double what you would make in the city.You don’t have to join a union either and they take applicants from all over the globe. Another plus is most of the womin up here are a little more laid back than their city dwelling counterparts.

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    Alberta_west
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    Eny thoughs on Class 1 drivers western in Canada? Class 1 is pretty much a truck driver with trailer.

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    Harpo-My-"SON"
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    I took a class in high school called building trades, in which the teacher/instructor supervised while we built a house from the ground up. liked it so much took it both my junior and senior year. instructor said I was the  quickest to learn the brick laying and should think about that as my trade. I got work after graduating with a masonry company as a helper for two years. then found other work and got out of masonry for ten years. while working at a factory job got fed up and Quit on the spot. I asked a friend who had 40 acres with surface stone if I could harvest some to sell to stone-yards. Did that for about 18 mo. Then started stacking pallets of stone at the quarries, for per pallet money. Got to know several quarry owners and stone masons. A stonemason hired me as a helper and I  learned the trade. From high school until I did my first masonry contracting job was 20 years. It should not take a man that long to learn a trade and usually don’t. but my experience was on and off again with other jobs between. My avatar shows some of my most resent work. The pay is $? per square foot cash no taxes.

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