Consent Form

[jambearParticipant 282]

With the #yesmeansyes and all the laws on the books that cripple a man in defending himself against false allegations. Even if multiple verbal consents are given a woman can still deny the act was consensual. It seems that a man can not win in the current environment, since we have no chance of changing the laws, maybe we can use a consent form to better protect our brethren who still choose to engage with woman.

If anyone here is a lawyer or some one with experience drafting up legal documents, would it be possible to get a universal consent form that a man could have a woman sign prior to the start of sexual relations in order to prove that the act is mutually consensual? If I had the knowledge or background I would draft it up myself but I lack the ability and so I am reaching out for some help with this.

Am I crazy in thinking this or has someone tried it before and it failed to help the situation? Need input. Thank you.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Hola Senior JamBear!

I’m a nonpracticing Lawyer.  My two-cents is that these “Consent Forms” eventually would not hold up in most jurisdictions because, essentially, most case law would hold that a woman can withdraw her consent at any time during a sexual encounter.

For regular every day dudes like us, these forms are straight forward.  For Public Figures, these forms ae more complicated.  Let me give you an example:

Let’s say your name is LaKobe James-Anthony, a hypothetical NBA superstar making 20 Million dollars a year in guaranteed salary and another cool 100 million in endorsements.   You are a f~~~ing Target…Not the kind where you can get mid-price bullshiet on sale…but the “Ching-Ching” kind of Target for some skank waiting to cash in on some Bullshiet.

In Da Club….LaKobe meets “Aisha”, an 10-rated, green-eyed, c-cup ‘Asian-Caucasian-Spanish-mixed’ girl with hair down to her ass-crack in VIP.    Blah, Blah, Blah…LaKobe and Aisha get the talking…Blah, Blah, BLAH, Blah…and next thing you know, Aisha is riding home half-naked in LaKobe’s new Ferrari.

Before the proverbial road head, LaKobe pulls out this Consent Form.  Aisha signs.  She also initials for specific acts such as A1: Giving Head, B3: Anal, c2 Fisting, d2: let ‘Sparky the Pit Bull’ join in.  Aisha is an off the chain freak.

Ok..Despite Aisha signing in writing that she consents to doing Anal, fisting, and ‘Sparky’, most courts would nullify this if she alleges at any time during the sex act that she told LaKobe to stop doing Anal…Or ANY PROXY for saying STOP: i.e. “….it hurts…you going too fast…too hard…ouch…oohhh…hold up…wait…give me a sec…slow down…ok…stop.  I said Stop…Sparky.”

As you would guess, this comes down to “He said, She said”.  But as with any litigation with a LaKobe, you dodge a bullet criminally with a $1000/hour Attorney but get hit by a stray in Civil Court (the legal standard for Civil Judgment is “Preponderance of the Evidence”, much less than the “Reasonable Doubt” standard in Criminal Cases)…and also in the court of Public Opinion and Endorsement Deals.

“Down goes LaKobe, Down goes His Endorsements.”

Here’s an article where someone has created such a form in light of allegations against LaKobe-like athletes.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=128101

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

No contract of any kind would fully protect you.

The laws are just too screwed up, also incase you ever come to canada, it’s like 5 times worse here.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[jambearParticipant 282]

Thank for the insight TheNinjaUWannaH8, I see the issues with sure a form. I should have done a little a bit of research before posting a redundant topic. It seems many people have thought of this and there are such form in existence.

http://www.sex-contract.com/

I will post more as I find them.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

Issue with all of these contracts is that the laws allow for the withdrawal of consent AFTER the deed has been done.

So, you would need one to be singed, before and after, and even then it would only hinder the law a bit, as she can still change her mind after all of that contract signing.

And further more, you’d be completely f~~~ed if she didn’t sign the contract afterwards, cause it’s like she’s saying that you raped her.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Just do it with a prostitute, it’s not usually a concern with them.  If they were to file rape charges on men they would lose customers pretty quickly.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[KeymasterKeymaster]

A woman can withdraw her consent at any time during a sexual encounter.

I’m not a lawyer, but I believe that’s officially known as “revokable consent”.

Which is just another way of saying: “women aren’t capable of making up their own f~~~ing minds“.

Let’s think about that for a moment, shall we? Women VOTE for this. Women gather together and VOTE and AGREE en masse that women are not capable of making up their own f~~~ing minds. Legally, women are that f~~~ing stupid and clueless. Thank you ladies for making the point. That’s like a man taking a woman out for dinner, and the next morning he changes his mind, calls her up and demands she gives him his money back.

And they want “respect”?

“YOU NEED TO RESPECT WOMEN!!!”

Whenever you hear some bulls~~~ like “you need to learn how to respect women”. You know what to tell them….

Women don’t even have respect for themselves.
And they fall over themselves to prove it.

With such a thing as “revokable consent”… women are not ABLE to give consent.
So why do they pretend like you need it?

It’s official. Female consent and approval is now a meaningless as her “rejection”.
Women have made “respect for women” virtually (and legally) impossible.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[JimboParticipant 162]

You know, this is what p~~~es me off with modern society, we pass insane laws like these because women supposedly can’t make up their own minds, (Though really, it is probably because she’s afraid her friends will find out and judge her)  and then anything that can even be conceived as an inconvenience to women voting is considered off the table.

 

It is laws like these that make me shake my head and wonder if people really think women are this stupid then why do the defend women’s suffrage tooth and nail?  I’d say if anyone was this stupid, then they should not be allowed to vote.

[Eric LauderParticipant 84]

The law “yes-means-yes” is a female-supremacist law meant to give to the female the power to ruin a MAN at every time she wants. It’s not the worst one.
In University of Michigan there’s an even worse policy: if a MAN withold sex to the partner (female) is “violence”
Both californian law and the policy have just only a good point: both applies only to students (even if even OFF campus)
A MAN student must avoid female students, no more, no less.
There’s no other way to escape, especially from University of Michigan policy: if you are engaged with a girl, she “owns” you because she can, at any time, accuse you of “withold sex”. And ruin you.

Of course that thing of “witholding sex is violence” doesn’t apply to females: witholding sex is one of the preferred sexual activities of the average female, and that’s why it cannot apply to females, otherwise 98%-99% of females would be jailed and there aren’t enough jails! 🙂

If a MAN student want f~~~ with a female: milf bars.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Well that certainly brings new meaning to the term “yes means yes”. As if when a woman says “yes” you are now REQUIRED to give her what she wants. That’s when you f~~~ her hamster right in the ass. Dry.

You tell her: “I am not required to f~~~ you. You do not have my consent.”.

• You may not speak to me. You do not have my consent.
• You may not look at me. You do not have my consent.

… until they get the f~~~ing message.

Have you ever seen one of the police reports women are required to fill out when reporting “domestic violence”? Holy s~~~:

• Has he ever raised his voice at you?
• Has he ever called you something other than your NAME?
…. and my personal favorite…..
• Has he ever withheld money or credit cards from you.

You think any woman would refuse to check the box or say “that’s not violence!!!”

F~~~ no. She will ask for an extra-thick Sharpie.

Women think not giving them YOUR MONEY is “abuse” and qualifies as “domestic violence”.

RESPECT WOMEN? That’s a joke without a punchline.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Since that yes means yes crap, I started say no more often. Bitches need my consent just to talk where I can hear them.

[AlmostNiceGuyParticipant 210]

Wait, does law give them the power TO ACTUALLY REVOKE CONSENT? I understand most of the men with the power to actually stop such a law are pussy-whipped manginas, but still couldn’t somebody rational thought “Well this i kind of f~~~ed up, some people will go to jail for allegations or through the removal of consent” If so this is just bulls~~~. I agree with KeyMaster, with a law as ridiculous as this you should not give them consent in ANYTHING. Is there anyway to turn this around? As a man, if I had sex with a chick, could I say that I did not give her my consent for something trivial, like missionary position, or doggy?

[Eric LauderParticipant 84]

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/19448/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388974/withholding-sex-now-considered-sexual-violence-u-m-katherine-timpf

In the second link there are also my comments, as Eric Lauder.

I know a lot of these things because since my separation I’m used to infiltrate feminist sites (in Italian, but now I’m beginning to manage even English 🙂 ): they ask for these policies and then they laugh when the policies are implemented. With these policies every relations~~~ EVEN without cohabitation, will be more and more dangerous for a MAN. These policies are implemented first of all in the universities because young MEN are the perfect target: still quite ingenue but costantly aroused. Misandrists are aware of it, that’s why they call for these policies especially in universities. And they laugh even about the educational gender gap: it will be even wider in the next years, thanks to these policies, because campuses will be more and more unfriendly towards MEN.

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