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After countless girlfriends, marriage, divorce, short term dating and long term dating, I’ve come to know the real essence of what women mean when they say they are looking for “Commitment”. Their definition is far different from our own, which I would define as:
-Man’s definition of Commitment: “I won’t cheat on you, or leave you.”
I think this is why marriage is so ridiculous to us in the first place. If your relationship is going well with your girlfriend, then by Man’s definition of commitment, We’re already Committed.
Marriage is an extremely expensive redundancy, and entirely unneccessary to a well run relationship.
Women, on the other hand, have an entirely different definition of “Commitment”. Thus:
Woman’s definition of Commitment: A legal, binding contract between plow horse and princess. A pension plan, a retirement account, a government backed guarantee against all losses in the transaction.
After being divorce raped and learning of MGTOW (God, I wish MGTOW were around before I got married) I’ve really expended some mental effort in understanding the female psyche and why they are so crazy. This, of course, is just the tip of the ice berg.
I’ve proven these differences in definition by playing a little back and forth with my last ex, who was hell bent on getting married ASAP. I’d recommend any Man with a girlfriend harping about marriage try this:
“Honey, I don’t want to ruin the romance with lawyers, government contracts and getting the state and federal government in our affairs. Why don’t we just hold our own ceremony, for us? We aren’t religous, we don’t need a preacher or anyone to ordain anything. If you want vows and a commitment we can do that without any government involvement or paperwork whatsoever. We can even do it with our families present, just like you pictured. Let’s just leave the paperwork out of it.”
OOOOhhhh boy. That one lit a fuse under her Ass!!! It essentially placed her in checkmate, as it gives her everything a girl could want in a wedding…. except the contract. If a sworn commitment is all she wanted, well there it is. In front of God, family and everyone else. That should make her happy, right!?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She back pedalled out of that one, quick!!! Of course my mother has chimed in her two cents, which only adds to my list of evidence that a contract is what women really want out of marriage. My mother said, “women just want to make sure they are taken care of.”
Ah hah. There it is again. That no matter what, they are gonna get theirs. They are very cunningly ensuring their long term well being is being secured, at the Mans expense. They want to enter into a contract that they can back out of at anytime, yet still garner the same rewards due to legalize within the aforementioned contract.
When arguing these points with my sister and mother, I asked why women needed a contract. What was it that women wanted to be ensured access to? Their answer: Money, financial stability. Again, “they wanted to be taken care of.”
So then I asked what was it that women brought to the table. What was it that Men were being ensured access to? Their answer, VERY swiftly, was Sex. Sex is what women brought to the table, followed distantly by child bearing.
I ended the conversation by stating that once sex was a legally guaranteed responsibility of the woman to the Man, enforcable by court order even after a divorce, then men might start coming to the bargaining table. Until then, this bait and switch ponzie scheme is t~~~ up. Men have become aware of the raw deal, and we aren’t signing S~~~.
If my ex wife gets alimony because she bailed out trying (and failing) to monkey branch, yet gets money from me every month because they are now “used to a standard of living” the only way to even begin making this fair is by having her come to my house three times a week to blow me, clean my house and wash my clothes without talking or complaining.
Thats your end of the bargain, sweetheart.
I agree with you, mate. I’ve been through this several times. I have my choice of women. I have zero trouble picking up 8s and 9s. It always ends for the reasons you mentioned. It leaves me hurt because I actually invest a lot in these women – time, emotion, money. I cannot simply pump and dump. Where do we go from here?
Awesome post Nomad! “Take care of her” = give her limitless $$$$ with NOTHING in return. I would love to meet a man who said that his sex life was better for being married. ?Anyone??? It is a fake contract. My ex showed the libido of a dead toad once the ring was on (except for the chads of course!).
Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.
Where do we go from here?
Rent ’em by the hour,the only honest chicks out there IMO.
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
I’ve proven these differences in definition by playing a little back and forth with my last ex, who was hell bent on getting married ASAP. I’d recommend any Man with a girlfriend harping about marriage try this:
“Honey, I don’t want to ruin the romance with lawyers, government contracts and getting the state and federal government in our affairs. Why don’t we just hold our own ceremony, for us? We aren’t religous, we don’t need a preacher or anyone to ordain anything. If you want vows and a commitment we can do that without any government involvement or paperwork whatsoever. We can even do it with our families present, just like you pictured. Let’s just leave the paperwork out of it.”
OOOOhhhh boy. That one lit a fuse under her Ass!!! It essentially placed her in checkmate, as it gives her everything a girl could want in a wedding…. except the contract. If a sworn commitment is all she wanted, well there it is. In front of God, family and everyone else. That should make her happy, right!?
Beware though, in some area that stunt may trap you into cohabitation common law marriage.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Lying is in their blood. Her own commitment is of zero value to her. It doesn’t mean anything.
I agree with you, mate. I’ve been through this several times. I have my choice of women. I have zero trouble picking up 8s and 9s. It always ends for the reasons you mentioned. It leaves me hurt because I actually invest a lot in these women – time, emotion, money. I cannot simply pump and dump. Where do we go from here?
My new plan is to honestly try going Monk style again, although I admittedly failed miserably on my last attempt and ended up in a long term relationship (yeah, Monk-style epic fail on my part).
I swear to all those who were/are stuck as Beta’s, going Monk will get you laid ASAP. It was like swearing off women was an aphrodesiac to them… Women seemed to come out of the woodwork trying to sedeuce me, all because I stopped trying. Admittedly, I am good looking. (not bragging, but it is a factor.)
My new “Canary in the Coal Mine” is Blowjobs. Every new relationship starts with Epic blowjobs in amazing places: Movie theaters, car rides, on the couch, first thing in the morning and last thing before bed. But I’ve noticed in ALL of my relations~~~s that as soon as the blowjobs taper off, then eventually cease NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN, there’s nothing left for a Man in that relationship and it’s going south fast. That’s when it’s time to hit the Eject button, as soon as the blowjobs fail. It only gets worse from there, because when they stop blowing you, they’ve stopped respecting you and chasing you. They’ve grown comfortable.
Gnostic, you bring up a great point about common law and honestly I played a dangerous hand. I’m not sure what I would have done if she took me up on the “ceremony without paperwork” idea, but I had a wild hunch she wouldn’t go for it anyways. That definitely could have blown up in my face.
Great one, Nomad.
And why do they consider “giving” us sex a benefit when the “giving” is going both ways?
Don’t even get me started on a woman “giving” me all the liability and responsibility for Chad’s babies.AWALT…The only bargaining chip they have is sex which kinda tapers off especially with age. We sacrifice and provide more into the marriage than what we take out. Its a raw deal nowadays. It is forced slavery.
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
Great one, Nomad.
And why do they consider “giving” us sex a benefit when the “giving” is going both ways?AWALT…The only bargaining chip they have is sex which kinda tapers off especially with age.
Exactly…. Sex is the only thing they bring to the table, yet they definitely want that to be left to innuendo;unspoken, not agreed upon, nowhere in writing, just “a special gift” they magically bestow upon us when we are good little lapdogs.
Pfffft. Bitch, you want unfettered access to all of my assets, IN WRITING, so you can pick and choose when I may get some post-wall worn out pussy? I wouldn’t sign even if 24/7 access were enforceable by law. As you gentlemen stated, sex is mutually enjoyable (despite what some women say) and generally gets worse the closer she gets to the wall.
My mother said, “women just want to make sure they are taken care of.”
It would make sense back in the day if you were going to marry a 19 year old virgin and start popping kids out right after you were married, and she wasn’t ever going to seek any higher education or develop any marketable skills as her role in life would be mother and wife and she’d be taking care of the home. I could see how it would suck turning 40 with no job experience having spent your life birthing and raising 5 kids or something, then having your husband leave you.
Today though…they want to ride the carousel and “work on their career” til 30, they want equality but only when it benefits them and traditionalism the rest of the time, and then they think they still deserve the same deal in marriage previous generations got, even though their hottest, most fertile years have already been given to men other than their future husband. Worse is on top of all that a lot of women actually run up debt during the carousel years that would eventually get dumped on to the man during their marriage. Men are crazy to take that s~~~ty deal.
Anonymous1I don’t blame them, it’s in their nature and for a long time they weren’t expected to take care of themselves BECAUSE THEIR JOB WAS TO TAKE CARE OF OTHERS!!
I would have no problem entering such a contract if I actually knew the woman would be f~~~ing loyal but of course … AWALTThe sex benefit is all BS anyways. Nowhere in the marriage contract does it say that she HAS to have sex with you. She only has sex with you on the night of the honeymoon to consummate the marriage thus securing the cash and prizes if a divorce happens. After that she NEVER has to have sex with you again and you have NO legal recourse with it.
When you are married you get sex when SHE decides. You have no guarantee. When you are single and out looking to get laid, you get sex if SHE wants it. Again, no guarantee so what exactly is the benefit of marriage to a man?
Thanks to MGTOW and websites like this, men are learning about the guaranteed sex clause that DOES NOT exist in the marriage contract and we are informing the younger guys.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
Well written post Nomad I enjoyed reading it
-Man’s definition of Commitment: “I won’t cheat on you, or leave you.”
I gave them my word every time. I never cheated, never f~~~ed around. It wasn’t a good enough of a commitment for any of them. F~~~ em
Edit: Also, no reasonable, sophisticated person should expect someone else to take care of them. Male or female
Isn’t it neat when you get women to admit to the stuff they’re really after?
If my ex wife gets alimony because she bailed out trying (and failing) to monkey branch, yet gets money from me every month because they are now “used to a standard of living” the only way to even begin making this fair is by having her come to my house three times a week to blow me, clean my house and wash my clothes without talking or complaining.
Agreed. A man’s marital obligations extend beyond the contract. A woman has marital obligations neither during the marriage nor after.
But I’ve noticed in ALL of my relations~~~s that as soon as the blowjobs taper off, then eventually cease NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN, there’s nothing left for a Man in that relationship and it’s going south fast.
Yes. When she won’t suck your dick, she’s either not that into you or she was just doing it to get something from you.
Commitment… I don’t believe in committing in relationships. I tried committing in relationships with a woman, but all of them are pretty much statist cowards.
men are prey to women and government.
Add the Illuminati, Knights Of Malta, The Vatican and the Jesuit Order, and you have a hierarchical s~~~ sandwich. And women are higher than us in that very pyramid.
Bit like a video game, you register, then go through all the bulls~~~ levels to get to the top level of ‘good provider’.
Well, if you are misfortunate enough to get stuck with alimony, you could just defect to a country that doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the country you currently have citizenship in.
Life's too short to spend with promiscious women. Enjoy your passions while you still can!!
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