Commending The Charleston Community

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[VictorParticipant 124]

Anonymous wrote:

I will talk to black people about slavery. I know a group of black guys with whom I can freely use the N word along with them. I love listening to PC people bleat about black guys using that word among themselves. In this context it is a male bonding term that is all. I once had a conversation about slavery with a black woman. I told her that had her ancestors not undergone that tribulation she would not exist. She said “I’ve never looked at it that way.” and thanked me for telling her that. Another time I was at the work and some black coworkers used the C word (Cracker for those not from around here) in a very relevant joke about the situation I was in. We all liked to have died laughing over it. When I was a child, my father had a rural inlander friend who visited town with his black friend. The guy had his black friend sitting in the truck as he was not allowed to come into white houses where they lived, literally. I remember the rage my father had when he found out what his friend had done. My old man went out to the truck and made the rural black guy come into the house. The gentleman was not used to it and was slow about it at first. Fast forward to an hour later and three men were drinking Scotch at the table with a little white boy watching them have a good time. This was about 1972.

The first Transatlantic slaves were white.

The first slave-owner in what is now the United States was black.

Indentured slavery has existed for thousands of years, possibly as long as settled human societies have existed, and it still exists today – among non-white populations.

The first modern civilisation to outlaw slavery was white European civilisation.

Most inter-racial violent crime committed in the United States is black-on-white rather than white-on-black – in fact, hugely disproportinately so.  White-on-black crime is comparatively rare.

White European civilisation is slowly dying.  We are being out-bred and replaced by non-whites, something that has vast implications and is not an accident.  The complaints about (white) women on this site are a manifestation of this broader phenomenon.

[Anonymous 11]

@victor: Everything you say is true. If current trends continue, nearly all Whites will be Mormons in 4 generations. However, the Japanese are in a population decline too.

Are all of us today not but a different form of slave with some serf thrown in too? Black, white, and oriental tax slaves all feeding parasitic corporatist systems that encompass all w/in expanding electronic fences of control. This slavery is different also in that it’s equal opportunity slavery so no discrimination by one’s skin color. We are all slaves to the system. MGTOWs are some of the uppity serfs. No Lord likes uppity serfs.

I’ve read that a plantation slave in the South had 35 to 50% of his productive output taken by the owner which is very similar to modern effective tax rates. The Irish and African slaves were trapped in that economic model’s matrix. A slave was not able to leave his master unless the master freed him. It’s getting more difficult for one to expatriate himself from these parasitic governments. Some slaves had kind masters. Other slaves had cruel masters. The slave had limited say in his own affairs. It was not a just system.

A black person my age near 50 has parents and grandparents who grew up during the segregation era. They grew up hearing these stories of how people they know and love were treated as second class citizens. A lot of brave black and white people challenged and changed the system to a more just one. I would not be very happy about it if I knew my Mother had to once drink from a special water fountain or sit on the back of the bus.

The cities of Charleston and Savannah did not have the riots other places had during the Civil Rights struggle. There is something to be learned from these two cities versus Baltimore and Ferguson. As a resident of this sliver of the coast, I can attest that we are kind of touchy about outsiders trying to use racial tension to hurt these cities and blacks and whites tend to unite as a front to preserve these places versus having our towns destroyed. They are both very unique in America. The rest of each city’s State begins where the city limits end. I am not exaggerating either.

I’m really not into keeping scores and tallies on this as it only gets used to agitate things that really need to be allowed to cool down. I think at this point in time we need to model ourselves after what the victim’s families in Charleston are doing. Forgive is what they are doing. I am modeling my response to this horror following the same trail these families have blazed. This is not the time to agitate. It’s a time to forgive and let heal.

I think nation as a whole could learn a lot from how these families are handling this issue. The knowledge will prevent a lot of suffering and destruction.

[VictorParticipant 124]

Anonymous wrote:

@victor: Everything you say is true. If current trends continue, nearly all Whites will be Mormons in 4 generations. However, the Japanese are in a population decline too. Are all of us today not but a different form of slave with some serf thrown in too? Black, white, and oriental tax slaves all feeding parasitic corporatist systems that encompass all w/in expanding electronic fences of control. This slavery is different also in that it’s equal opportunity slavery so no discrimination by one’s skin color. We are all slaves to the system. MGTOWs are some of the uppity serfs. No Lord likes uppity serfs. I’ve read that a plantation slave in the South had 35 to 50% of his productive output taken by the owner which is very similar to modern effective tax rates. The Irish and African slaves were trapped in that economic model’s matrix. A slave was not able to leave his master unless the master freed him. It’s getting more difficult for one to expatriate himself from these parasitic governments. Some slaves had kind masters. Other slaves had cruel masters. The slave had limited say in his own affairs. It was not a just system. A black person my age near 50 has parents and grandparents who grew up during the segregation era. They grew up hearing these stories of how people they know and love were treated as second class citizens. A lot of brave black and white people challenged and changed the system to a more just one. I would not be very happy about it if I knew my Mother had to once drink from a special water fountain or sit on the back of the bus. The cities of Charleston and Savannah did not have the riots other places had during the Civil Rights struggle. There is something to be learned from these two cities versus Baltimore and Ferguson. As a resident of this sliver of the coast, I can attest that we are kind of touchy about outsiders trying to use racial tension to hurt these cities and blacks and whites tend to unite as a front to preserve these places versus having our towns destroyed. They are both very unique in America. The rest of each city’s State begins where the city limits end. I am not exaggerating either. I’m really not into keeping scores and tallies on this as it only gets used to agitate things that really need to be allowed to cool down. I think at this point in time we need to model ourselves after what the victim’s families in Charleston are doing. Forgive is what they are doing. I am modeling my response to this horror following the same trail these families have blazed. This is not the time to agitate. It’s a time to forgive and let heal. I think nation as a whole could learn a lot from how these families are handling this issue. The knowledge will prevent a lot of suffering and destruction.

I’m sorry but I don’t agree.  I don’t care about the blacks who got shot.  The reality is that blacks are wreaking havoc in your country day-in, day-out, as they are in Britain.  Ordinary whites don’t want to live anywhere near them.  Everyone knows this, but no-one talks about it.  Look at South Africa now – that’s the future for the West, or worse, Haiti.

If I care about anyone involved in all this, it’s Dylann Storm Roof, a young man who will now probably be incarcerated for the rest of his life or executed.  That doesn’t mean I think that this type of violence is condonable, but people who say violence is wrong are just being hypocritical.  Violence clearly isn’t always wrong – or for one thing, the United States government would have a very different foreign policy.  Clearly the United States government agrees with Dylann Storm Roof.  American soldiers (and British soldiers for that matter) have done far worse than Dylann Roof and are lauded for it, but unlike Roof, they commit atrocities in the name of a corporate system and a small ethnic clique – Zionist Jews – who have significant influence over Western governments.

But the present point is that I don’t care about non-whites.  I only care about white people.  That’s not to be mean, it’s just that my civilisation and culture is European.  That’s what I am. If whites become a minority in the West, then the nature of our society changes.  Knowing this, I cannot condemn Roof for what he did and I cannot express sympathy for his victims (though I must acknowledge that, individually, his victims might have been blameless).

The reality is that blacks are not, on average, as intelligent as whites and do not have the same capacity to build civilisations.  The same applies, to a lesser degree, to East Asians and other non-white groups, though in those cases it’s mostly less about differences in intelligence and more about cultural differences.

All this mangina-like pandering to non-whites, all the ‘We Are The World’ bulls~~~, is a reflection of the liberal mindset that elevates universalist values above indigenous values.  Universalist notions such as ‘equality’, ‘human rights’ and so on are empty and are just the projection of some group’s self-interested agenda.

Your little rose-tinted homily about old black men in painted houses in the rural American South and ‘enraged’ tolerant white men – right out of To Kill A Mockingbird, minus rocking chairs on the porch – is comparable to the worst kind of Blue Pill white knighting.  One reason white women ‘like’ black men (even though they don’t really) is because they see the mangina tendency in white men in both a racial and gender context, and they hate it.  White men are being weakened and emasculated by this culture.  My reaction to Dylann Storm Roof?  Good on yer boy!  If there were more white men like him, there would be no need for MGTOW.

[Anonymous 42]

Racial tensions in the 1970’s were really bad in Massachusetts, it sickens me to hear a black man complain about anything he didn’t personally feel, or go through! It’s disgusting to hear all the PAIN WHORING that goes on, like Jerky Jackson, and Al Sharptoung, always running around the country being attention whores at every opportunistic event.

When I was a kid, in school, during desegregation, I was stabbed in the stomach with a needle by a black kid. On the way to  my father’s shop (in a black neighborhood) a gang of older youth (17 to 19) saw me and my friend walking down the tracks, they started yelling racial s~~~ at us, we started to walk faster (ready to bolt), what happened next, I still live with to this day. I would have preferred to have the skin whipped off my back! One of them picked up a brick from the Victorian sidewalk (without my knowledge) he lobbed it from across an abandoned lot and hit my shoulder blade with such force it knocked me to the ground and paralyzed my arm for a minute as we scurried away. The pain was so intense I was passing out as I fled. A black man took skin and bone from my back that day! My crime??? BEING F~~~ING WHITE!

Another incident on the same tracks where a gang of black kids tried to steal my Yamaha 250 dirt bike THAT I PAID FOR WITH MY OWN LABOR, not some privileged white kid, long story short, they couldn’t get it started after roughing me up. They abandoned the theft, I picked up my bike and started rolling till I was out of sight, then started it and went back to the shop to get a hand sledge hammer, my intent was to drive at them doing 50 or 60 miles an hour and releasing the hammer on one of their heads. Whoever picks up the first stone is the true racist. I forgive them today, they were blinded by racism, I was blinded by ANGER.

Racism can not exist without anger…. Two sides of the same coin… I am NOT A RACIST, However I do have a daily reminder of racism……..

[Anonymous 11]

@victor: Maybe our perspectives are colored some by the fact that blacks have been here damn near since the beginning alongside us over 400 years. Blacks have made contributions to American culture and are our countrymen from birth. Our closest thing would maybe be the MS-13 gangs infiltrating from Central America. They are vicious invaders who violate our laws. My neighborhood is 40% black, but it’s not the hood as they all have skilled jobs. Everyone gets along very well. For me it’s not pandering, I just respect those who respect me regardless of race. I eliminate those who don’t from my life.

The vast majority of black crime here is against other blacks, but you are right about the inter race ratios as that holds true here. I care about both races as long as they are individually worthy of care. We have a few cases every now and then where blacks will gang up and kill a young black teen who is doing well in school. We’re going to have to agree to disagree some here probably due to cultural and situational issues, but it is a cluster f~~~ no matter how you dice it. For me, I’m accentuating the positive as the times call for it. It might just be something in coastal South Carolina and Georgia low country culture that brings out this dynamic too.

@Tower: My older brother got placed in a black school in the early seventies too when the schools were being integrated. They were physically attacked by the black students. My older cousins tell me the same stories too. I am younger so those initial battles had fizzled out, and we never experienced that.

There are certain neighborhoods that I will not enter for my own safety. Between the bitter 14 punk wanting to kill a white guy for a gang initiation and the police profiling me as a drug buyer. I won’t go. Even the black guys are scared to enter some white areas out of fear. It’s mostly hood guys that have this fear knowing full well there is a black community in the area that lives there with no issues and they visit my white friend’s place when he throws parties.

No, it’s not all Unicorns and Rainbows, but neither is it Road Warrior style. Tower and Victor thanks for letting others know that racial violence occurs outside the South. There is a misconception it only occurs here.

Would it be possible that I’m living in some sort of bubble. If this plays out w/o rioting, I may begin to entertain it.

[VictorParticipant 124]

Anonymous wrote:

@victor: Maybe our perspectives are colored some by the fact that blacks have been here damn near since the beginning alongside us over 400 years. Blacks have made contributions to American culture and are our countrymen from birth.

If you’re white, that means you and I are countrymen.  The nation-states we live under are just artifices.  We’re both European and thus we are kin.

Blacks are alien to European culture and have contributed nothing to your society other than degeneracy.  You know this very well.  That’s not to say I hate them.  In fact, I’ve met lots of nice blacks.  I just don’t care for them.  Whites already separate themselves from blacks and with good reason.

The reason MGTOW exists is because (white) women have lost their respect for (white) men – and it has to be said, not without some justification.  MGTOW is almost-exclusively a white phenomenon and reflects the destructive havoc wreaked throughout society by what, in truth, are anti-European ideas.  It’s not really the fault of the present generation, as these masochistic thinking patterns have been imposed on us.  We’re bearing the brunt of it.

We have to make a choice now.  Are we men or not?

Your orthodox, whiny, liberal, Brotherhood of Man, twaddle  is exactly the type of stuff women profess to love but secretly despise.  It’s why white women don’t respect white men anymore.  That’s not an attack on you.  I was the same once.  It’s an evolution you have to go through.  You are your own man.  The man in your little anecdote who didn’t want the black man in the house was RIGHT.  By letting the blacks in the house, we are turning our societies into rubbish tips.

[Anonymous 13]

George Soros was a Nazi collaborator and Jew (it can’t get any crazier), he actually is funding Nazi founded Planned Parenthood, he actually pays protestors.  What? communists “funded”?  Well duh, s~~~ doesn’t just fall from the sky.  Billionaires fund…communism?  Yep, its a crazy world but there is logical reasons as to why they would do this, retaining the power into fewer hands increasing the amount of power they have.  There 1+1 for a female should be easy, you’d think, but they don’t.

This event is extremely politicized.  The batman shooting was an obvious drugging and MKultra, Tim McVeigh was a patsy, and no…sandy hook did not f~~~ing happen.  This event may be real, but the gun argument is so vaginalized I could destroy with logic in five seconds with any douche bag professor.

Happy *f~~~ing* father’s day.  I love you guys, I’m just a little angry right now…about everything…miss my kids…hatin the world.

[Anonymous 11]

Victor: This is the beauty of MGTOW. Yes, my ancestors came from England, France, Ireland and Scotland so my ethnicity is closer to yours. I still think we are having a little American and European way of thinking difference here though. I’m not going to say all black people are perfect little angels as some have done truly hideous things our prisons are full of them in there with whites and latin americans represented too. However, blacks have shed blood in our wars and their contributions to American culture are a big part of being an American. They are just as American as I am. You’re right they are alien to your culture yet part of mine. Life just works that way sometimes. Question to you: How long have they lived there?

I really don’t care what women think about my moderate racial views. If I were a cross burning Ku Klux Klan Grand Kleagle though, I would attract hybristophiles like a magnet guaranteed.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

herodeath7 wrote:

Pascal wrote: Even the Department of Justice said that Michael attempted to steal the gun I think it’s weird how a group of people who weren’t there somehow are able to draw a conclusion like this, especially since this fact was debated for awhile wherein the only real witness was the cop (who lived).

They are investigators. The collect evidence and decide if it’s reasonable to insist a crime happened or not. They decided that the cop was justified since the evidence demonstrates that the man went for the cops gun.

There are non-lethal methods but it’s safer to use lethal methods. Talking like this is telling a cop to accept more danger than he should. At this point, cops cannot do their job and should just quit. If you go for a cops gun, you are trying to kill that cop. He is to shoot you and that’s fair.

herodeath7 wrote:

Pascal wrote: Read the punctuation. Do you see any typos? No? Right, because there aren’t any. I made statement where two words could fit. I’m not sure which is better. And that’s my point; I wasn’t questioning the grammatical correctness of Peaceful Tolerance. I do wonder what definition you assign to the phrase though. For instance, I peaceful tolerate flies on my wall, or construction noises outside my house. But to say that you “peacefully tolerate” a group of people is like saying “I dislike these people, but I have to deal with it”. Which is your right, of course, but is different from integration.

I don’t intend to imply that I would begrudgingly accept them even though I don’t like them. I meant that either we integrate as a culture or we have our own little subcultures and interact only enough. It’s to be careful with my words because if people don’t want to integrate then fine. If they do then better. We should have an integral culture but if we just have to be around each other without integrating, that’s OK. It’s a choice and as long as we have a functional peace, then great. Integration is better but I’ll settle for a healthy, function peace.

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