College MGTOW Tells It Like It Is

[SandalsParticipant 4254]

Hermit wrote:

I wish I could say the same about my son. He’s about to make the same mistake at around the same age I was when I got married, in spite of my many warnings almost begging him not to do it. He will now have to learn by the burn as I did, unless he wises up before the horrid event. There’s still about a year left before the evil ceremony.

Just make sure he gets a prenup.

[Anonymous 38]

Instead of trying to talk to him about it, give him a one-time incredibly strong warning about the dangers of marriage, diatribe style, about how he’s leaving himself open for ruin, and that he doesn’t NEED marriage for any reason. Say you’ll struggle to go to the wedding as you see it as a death sentence.

You only need do this once. You will have sent the message loud and clear.

Depending on his reaction you can decide what you’re going to do. If he’s still set on doing it, you can apologise for your harshness and tell him you’ll be there. He’ll be happy you apologised and glad you’ll go, WHILE knowing how you really feel.

Hopefully within the year he’ll see sense.

[TicParticipant 4329]

Hermit,
Write a letter. It’s more powerful than spoken words. Outline everything you said here. One day, if he choses to proceed forward and suffer the consequences of his decision, you both can look to it as a proof your wisdom and love for your boy.

God bless peace and freedom.

[AwakenedParticipant 35216]

Hermit wrote:

I wish I could say the same about my son. He’s about to make the same mistake at around the same age I was when I got married, in spite of my many warnings almost begging him not to do it. He will now have to learn by the burn as I did, unless he wises up before the horrid event. There’s still about a year left before the evil ceremony.

I would keep trying to talk him out of it, but I’m not sure if a father’s love is any competition against the “call of the siren”. I’ve already heard from my “kids”, “”Just because it didn’t work for you”….”You’re not a good judge of relationships”………

I already told the oldest daughter that I HAVE NO INTEREST in “meeting” her boyfriend, and I already envision what a train wreck life that awaits those two.

I too may have to face the very same thing some day with my kids. Personally, I don’t want to go to any of their “ceremonies” when and if they happen. If that means that they get p~~~ed off and want nothing to do with me then that’s something that I will have to deal with at the time. I will be / should be divorced by then and I will tell them that it’s nothing personal, but I just can’t support or participate in something like that ever again. They are free to go their on way, and if they CHOOSE to come back into my life then that’s on them.

I’m not interested in playing the role of grampy either. So, it’s probably for the best if they just LIVE THEIR OWN LIVES AND LET ME LIVE MINE.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[BoarParticipant]

Forget explaining sex to young men. With the internet and ‘liberated’ females with cell phones, there is nothing left to explain.

What could help is to take young men to divorce court and let them watch the proceedings for the day. Then ask them a series of questions. “Son, do you think any of those men who married ever expected to end up here?” “What will make you different from all of these men?” Etc.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[AwakenedParticipant 35216]

Boar wrote:

What could help is to take young men to divorce court and let them watch the proceedings for the day. Then ask them a series of questions. “Son, do you think any of those men who married ever expected to end up here?” “What will make you different from all of these men?” Etc.

Using LOGIC/Red Pills are not always effective against the EMOTIONS/Blue Pills when a Man is “in love”.

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE BLUE PILL.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 3]

Duke Togo wrote:

She will screw up and show her true colours now that she has secured you son. But will your son realise when she drops her guard before the ceremony? That is the question. Will you be there to remind him she will only get worse?

Worst, will the son have the guts to recognize that his father was right and he was wrong?

My daughter does exactly the opposite of what i pressure her to do, and she will refuse to see whatever proves me right. Saying “you were right” apparently equates donating a kidney.

[HermitParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Despite how much he f~~~s up, marries, I would let your son know that you still love and support him. He’ll need you when the hammer inevitably falls.

That’s good advice. Thanks.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[HermitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Instead of trying to talk to him about it, give him a one-time incredibly strong warning about the dangers of marriage, diatribe style, about how he’s leaving himself open for ruin, and that he doesn’t NEED marriage for any reason. Say you’ll struggle to go to the wedding as you see it as a death sentence.
You only need do this once. You will have sent the message loud and clear.
Depending on his reaction you can decide what you’re going to do. If he’s still set on doing it, you can apologise for your harshness and tell him you’ll be there. He’ll be happy you apologised and glad you’ll go, WHILE knowing how you really feel.
Hopefully within the year he’ll see sense.

Already did this. One day out at the gun range, we were having great fun and I laid it all out for the last time there, with the exception of telling him I didn’t want to go to the wedding.

I’ll tactfully and gently tell him that I’d rather not attend his “ceremony of legal bonding” and give it one last go with the red pills and warnings. I was just now thinking though, since he already knows how I feel about it, he may not even invite me. LOL He never told me he moved his girlfriend in with him. He never told me he was considering marriage. He never told me when he actually got engaged and he hasn’t told me that he recently set a date for the marriage. All of this I have been told about by his mother. Maybe I won’t have to attend this despicable event.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[HermitParticipant]

Tic wrote:

Hermit,Write a letter. It’s more powerful than spoken words. Outline everything you said here. One day, if he choses to proceed forward and suffer the consequences of his decision, you both can look to it as a proof your wisdom and love for your boy.

That doesn’t sound like too bad of an idea. Thanks.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22564]

Hermit wrote:

Puffin Stuff wrote:

If you don’t go to their wedding forget about seeing your grandkids. Just saying.

Now you’re swinging me back to the choice of not attending. I never planned on getting married or having kids as I really never liked kids. Once I had my own son, of course I love him more than anyone or anything, but I’m really not the grandpa type and not too concerned whether or not I get to see any grandkids.

Just remember the future exwif will blame you for their marriage going south if when she finds out about your advice to him, and hes probably dumb enough to tell her. You will ha e poisoned your sons head to screw it up and its not her fault, but yours and your sons. You know thats how it will play out, just know,it now.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[MonkParticipant 17057]

Hermit wrote:

He never told me he moved his girlfriend in with him. He never told me he was considering marriage. He never told me when he actually got engaged and he hasn’t told me that he recently set a date for the marriage.

This shows that he sees you as bitter.

He believes NAWALT, that he’s found the unicorn. As Awakened says ‘Just because it didn’t work out for you’.

He will burn and there’s nothing you can do about it – he’s too far gone.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22564]

Monk wrote:

Hermit wrote:

He never told me he moved his girlfriend in with him. He never told me he was considering marriage. He never told me when he actually got engaged and he hasn’t told me that he recently set a date for the marriage.

This shows that he sees you as bitter.
He believes NAWALT, that he’s found the unicorn. As Awakened says ‘Just because it didn’t work out for you’.
He will burn and there’s nothing you can do about it – he’s too far gone.

I,doubt hes too far gone. Hes young and full of hormones and thinks bsd things just will not happen to him. Experience is,light. He is just one that will have to learn the hard way, if and when it takes him out.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[HermitParticipant]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Hermit wrote:

Puffin Stuff wrote:

If you don’t go to their wedding forget about seeing your grandkids. Just saying.

Now you’re swinging me back to the choice of not attending. I never planned on getting married or having kids as I really never liked kids. Once I had my own son, of course I love him more than anyone or anything, but I’m really not the grandpa type and not too concerned whether or not I get to see any grandkids.

Just remember the future exwif will blame you for their marriage going south if when she finds out about your advice to him, and hes probably dumb enough to tell her. You will ha e poisoned your sons head to screw it up and its not her fault, but yours and your sons. You know thats how it will play out, just know,it now.

She already thinks I don’t like her and I don’t give a f~~~. She’s just a female and does not matter. I’ve already experienced her overly emotional behavior. It’s my son’s problem, not mine. He’s the one who is choosing to live with it.

When his mind matures from his experiences, when he’s been burned enough and tempered by the fire to be hardened like steel, he will look back and see all the time he has wasted on this female and hopefully will learn the truth that I’ve been trying to tell him.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Sandals wrote:

Just make sure he gets a prenup.

Prenups are worthless. Even contracts with fertility clinics are now worthless. All it takes is some feminist / tradcuck judge to throw them out and forcibly put him on the hook.

If he has to get a prenup, then she isn’t worth the risk, and he shouldn’t be marrying her in the first place. And she is never worth the risk.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

More than 50% of prenups that get challenged are subsequently thrown out. The cost of getting the prenup done, and then the cost of legally arguing later over wether or not it is valid, plus the costs of the routine divorce proceedings that are going to occur anyway when it is thrown out…

Add them all up and there isn’t much protection to be had in prenups.

A refusal to sign that s~~~ show of a slavery agreement masquerading as a contract is the only protection that seems to work. At least for me. At least for now.

But all hope is not lost. there are two possible outcomes here. The first is that it goes to crap, he gets divorced and has to start over. It will hurt him to go through and will be unpleasant for you to watch. But divorce proceedings will end. And when they do, your son may have a new found appreciation for your experience and insight. If you do not rub his nose in it and make him feel any worse about it than he already will, it could be an experience that brings the two of you closer together. When he learned to walk, you probably watched him stumble a couple times and fall on his ass. Same with a bicycle. There’s probably a skinned knee or elbow in that story somewhere. You knew it would happen when you bought him his first bicycle, but you bought it anyway because you knew it was part of the process, and that it was inevitable. No kid should grow up without ever having a bicycle. So you watched and you put ice and a band aid on it when it happened and you moved on from there.

The second option is that it actually works out well. We’ll all agree that the odds on this are long, and much too long to be worth this risk. But the odds are not zero. So have a plan for this outcome as well. In this scenario, he ends up happily married and no one will be more pleased than you to see your son happy with an arrangement of his own choosing. He may or may not rub your nose in it that you were wrong about his choice, but who cares? You clearly love your son and want him to be happy. So if you end up being wrong, and he ends up being happy, it’s a small price for you and still a good outcome. Your son still ends up happy.

So treat it like his first bicycle or his first car. Tell him to be careful, teach him whatever you can about managing risks, and then let him go out and learn. If he succeeds on his first attempt (bicycle, car or marriage), then cheer him on and be satisfied he succeeded.

And if he does not succeed on his first attempt, be his dad and have the ice pack and the band aid and the benign wisdom to offer him on how to increase his chance of succeeding next time (which is not to stick his finger in that light socket again…).

You’re his dad. You owe him whatever wisdom you have. Be nice on the delivery. Go to the wedding not because you think it’s a good idea or that it’s a risk worth taking. Go to the wedding in order to maintain your position and connection to him so that if it goes to crap, you’re in a position to offer ice pack, band aid, and wisdom. And if it succeeds, well, you DID go to the wedding and appear in a bunch of dumb ass pictures after all. So you weren’t entirely wrong, and he can’t rub your nose in it…

Either way, going to the wedding increases the chances that you will be able to have some access, and therefore at least some influence over things that will affect your son’s happiness in the future. Ultimately, your son’s happiness is your goal. And it’s likely you are the ONLY ONE who has that goal. You’re likely the ONLY ONE who has your son’s back, wether he knows it or not.

Stay focused on that goal.

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[ResidentEvil7Participant 9586]

In response to the first post video on page 1; it’s nice to see the young generation starting to get it figured out that women aren’t worth s~~~ and will screw you over without a second thought.

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