Coffee dates

[FrederickTheGreatParticipant 235]

Here is an annoying blog post about why women don’t want coffee dates with a guy on online dating: https://chocolatevent.com/2013/12/06/why-i-dont-do-coffee-dates/

Yet, guys are told that to meet the NAWALT it is a “numbers game” and we have to ask out a ton of women. How are we to do this if we have to pay lots of money on a first date? And also, isn’t the point of the first date to get to know one another to see if you would be compatible for future dates? As women are the equal of men in all respects, why do men have to pay to entertain a woman on a first date? Aren’t women just looking for companionship? Isn’t the coffee date a chance to learn about each other?

When the first date is about financial exploitation and one-sidedness, what does that say about what follows?

[President CamachoParticipant 941]

Why go out and pay for coffee when you can just put a filter in the coffee maker, load it up with grounds, and press a button?

A Western marriage that survives in the current year is an act of mercy and compassion by the woman.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

If a woman wants to date you it means she sees you as a potential wallet, hence why she expects you to spend lots of money on her. If a guy is an Alpha he will be invited over to f~~~ her without all the bother of having to date her.

Women on dating sites will have a number of chads she can message to hookup with, she is dating because she wants a wallet.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

In my experience, if I can’t get laid over a cup of coffee, then all the dinners from here to Paris will not work either. So it’s coffee then sex or nothing. Period.

[Anonymous 54]

Food whores.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Mr. Man wrote:

So it’s coffee then sex or nothing. Period.

Could be worse. Could be coffee then period, then sex or nothing.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

President Camacho wrote:

Why go out and pay for coffee when you can just put a filter in the coffee maker, load it up with grounds, and press a button?

I always thought why go to a bar and pay 15 bucks for a shot of whatever, when you can get the whole bottle for fifteen bucks from the liqueur store.

The girls want to know you have money to waste.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

The coffee date is the first step to the friendzone. If you are sexually attracted to a woman, your objective for a first date should be at least two mixed drinks at a bar at night within a mile of her house.

If she does not agree to that, she’s either not interested in you sexually or thinks you would make a better protector/provider than lover, in which case you’ve just saved yourself a minimum of two hours and the cost of two drinks and, potentially, weeks or months of “dating” a woman who has no intention of letting you take her to bed.

If you ask her to coffee under the pretense of wanting to get to know her before f~~~ing her, you are either not actually willing or able to close or you’re bulls~~~ting her and yourself. In either case, you are showing her that you are weak, sexually non-threatening and happy to spend gobs of money and time to feel like you have a hope of getting laid (coffee, then lunch, then dinner, then a show, then some gifts, then a day trip then a weekend trip…) you’ll keep delaying making the pass (and getting the inevitable rejection) and she knows she can milk you for weeks or even months.

Bar. Drinks. Two hours, max. F~~~ or f~~~ off. You can get to know her “personality” after you get to know her pussy. Trust me, neither one is going to get any better than they are right at the very beginning so why wait? And at least this way, you minimize your exposure.

You’re welcome.

p.s. The reason you start at a bar is to maintain the minimum social fiction that the both of you are not solely interested in each other for sex. After the first date/f~~~, though, the second one should be “Let’s grab a bottle of Jameson, go for a drive and get s~~~ty while we watch the stars go by. Or whatever yuor minimally romantic version of “get drunk and screw” happens to be.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Doc Fenderson, that was some epic prose. It’s so nice to be a man, listening to other men with perfectly sound logic. It is a thing of sweet beauty.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Setting up a coffee date also shows me what kind of guy you are – Not big on commitment, casual, and I’ll say it again, cheap. Why can’t you ask me out to lunch and not coffee? What, you don’t have the extra $10 bucks to buy me a salad or a sandwich instead? Casual is not the place to be on the 1st date; maybe the 5th or 6th date, but not the first. It certainly won’t impress me enough to go out with you on a second date.

And that statement tells men that the author of this little scrawl is a whore. That’s right, “Chocolate Vent”, you’re a whore. You just proved it.

FrederickTheGreat wrote:

How are we to do this if we have to pay lots of money on a first date?

Never, under any circumstances, pay any money on her on any date ever. It makes you a chump and makes her a whore. If she complains, you tell her exactly that. Then you stand up and walk away. Life is too short to waste any of it on whores. She had her one chance, and she just blew it. Tell her that as well.

And while we’re on the subject, don’t date. It’s just a ritual on the path to marriage, and why the f~~~ would you want that. You can have all the benefits of dating, which you don’t usually ever get from dating, without actually dating.

One of the most important things you can tell a woman is: “This is not a date.”

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

If you have not met them, and relying on a picture that may be 10 years old before they gained 30 pounds, coffee is the only way to go.

I go one better, I show up 10 minutes late, they have already bought their own coffee.

Unf~~~ these free food bitches.

If you want her, you can always continue the date elsewhere.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

Stargazer wrote:

The coffee date is the first step to the friendzone. If you are sexually attracted to a woman, your objective for a first date should be at least two mixed drinks at a bar at night within a mile of her house.

If she does not agree to that, she’s either not interested in you sexually or thinks you would make a better protector/provider than lover, in which case you’ve just saved yourself a minimum of two hours and the cost of two drinks and, potentially, weeks or months of “dating” a woman who has no intention of letting you take her to bed.

If you ask her to coffee under the pretense of wanting to get to know her before f~~~ing her, you are either not actually willing or able to close or you’re bulls~~~ting her and yourself. In either case, you are showing her that you are weak, sexually non-threatening and happy to spend gobs of money and time to feel like you have a hope of getting laid (coffee, then lunch, then dinner, then a show, then some gifts, then a day trip then a weekend trip…) you’ll keep delaying making the pass (and getting the inevitable rejection) and she knows she can milk you for weeks or even months.

Bar. Drinks. Two hours, max. F~~~ or f~~~ off. You can get to know her “personality” after you get to know her pussy. Trust me, neither one is going to get any better than they are right at the very beginning so why wait? And at least this way, you minimize your exposure.

You’re welcome.

p.s. The reason you start at a bar is to maintain the minimum social fiction that the both of you are not solely interested in each other for sex. After the first date/f~~~, though, the second one should be “Let’s grab a bottle of Jameson, go for a drive and get s~~~ty while we watch the stars go by. Or whatever yuor minimally romantic version of “get drunk and screw” happens to be.

Totally agree, my basic rules for a first date are Friday or Saturday night with a few drinks at a bar and see how it goes from there. You can tell by the end of the first drink if it is going anywhere so you can bail at this point if need be without wasting the whole night and a heap of money. If you get on well you can get some dinner or just head back to her place and f~~~ instead.

If she won’t meet you on a Friday or Saturday she is basically telling you that she doesn’t think you are important enough to bother investing much time in.

If she won’t sleep with you on the first date it means she sees you as a potential wallet or orbiter to keep as a backup or if she needs a favour. Do not fall into either of these traps, if you get an akward peck on the cheek and “thank you for a lovely night” ignore her and block her number. Be prepared to cut them out for the slightest thing, you need to portray that you have so many options you don’t give a f~~~ if he wants to see you again or not. This is like catnip to women, they hate to be ignored and will chase you.

But seriously, never, ever go on coffee dates.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

This thread is pure MGTOW

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[Nice Guy EddieParticipant 527]

Coffee is for pussies.

Get a drink down her neck any way you can, then have your way with her.

Find, fondle, finger, f~~~, forget.

You know it makes sense.

NGE

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

Men, if you are looking for a woman who is confident, attractive, self-respecting and just overall appealing, trust me, she will not be looking for you at the coffee shop.

Ok, this is good to know ..
I’ll be at the coffee shop.

Men you get what you give, so no effort & no planning on your part means a no-show on mine.

OK, this is also good to know ..
signed sincerely, no effort.no-planning.no-give.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

Unreal and the worst part is that simps will read that and use it as an instruction manual

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

No self-respecting man would ever bang that c~~~.

[TriviumParticipant 1029]

awww come on guys. She has to spend at least an hour putting lipstick on a pig to look presentable, has to drive across town because she can’t afford the rent in a city AND she has to pay for parking. The least you can do is spend the extra $10 to buy her a salad for the poor thing. You have to man up… it’s not about getting to know someone and checking if there is any kind of connection it’s about the job interview. Do you make enough money, do you have your own house, what kind of car do you drive. You can’t do that over a coffee date because it would make her look like a complete narcissistic pig in front of all those other people.

And women wonder why they get lied to their entire pre-wall life.

What a self-absorbed, self-entitled c~~~. She’s so in-to herself she can’t even come up with a single good alternate first date. How is reading in a bookstore any different than reading while having coffee in a starbucks? Why would you want to bring someone to go read? I don’t even remember the last time I saw an arcade after 1995…

"Listen to all, Follow none"

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Logically analysing it is “if you are willing to burn a lot of money just to do what I want to do, then you are fool enough to be my man”.

Last times that I have sex was just hangout somewhere where I don’t spend any cent, talk a little and bang her or directly the netflix and chill. Woman need to talk a little bit before having sex, or at least convince themselves that they are not just having sex, so they don’t feel so cheap.

But the truth is that they are whores, only thing that change is how much they charge. Some of them accept to be banged just because she finds you hot, other will demand that you do something for her, but there also those manginas that will do everything that they can, including burning money, and of course won’t have nothing in the end.

Women are toxic beings, men should restrict their access to our lives. Don’t talk with them, it will be basically to listen to their problems, avoid them !

If a girl want you f~~~ing her ass, she will decide it in the first moment that she looked at you, the yes or no is already there, except if show them that you have much more money than you look, the yes or no is already decided even before you say “hi”.

There is no more seductive thing to say to a woman than how much money you have, and how much money you are fool enough to burn with her.

The matrix want that you treat every woman like a special snow flake, the matrix made us all believe in that once, but now we are free from this BS.

[MelkiorrParticipant 200]

“i want to go on a proper date”

I told her to f~~~ off.

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