CHOOSING to NOT be FREE ????

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    Jeremiah Johnson
    Jeremiah Johnson
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    2219

    When I think about older married men, and the OPPRESSION they face on a daily basis, and the ABSOLUTE MISERY they are faced with, it makes me ponder why they would not forgo the inevitable, and at least consider the alternative…There are a lot of reasons the older generation of men are hardest to convince on the reality of going there own way, and the biggest one in my mind is the upbringing they were indoctrinated too…I remember seeing a documentary about during WWI or WWII where the women were convinced into SHAMING the young men that were still here stateside and not giving their lives away in a meaningless BANKSTER WAR that had NOTHING to do with OUR freedom, nor DEFENDING our own shores, and more about fulfilling your manifest destiny as a cog in a wheel in a machine that could not possibly have come to understand the entirety of what exactly they were getting themselves into…THIS IS THAT GENERATION OF MEN…So…When thinking about…WHY…they stay in hopeless, loveless, HAPPYLESS marriages, you really must go straight into these shaming episodes that WOMEN (CONVINCED BY THE BANKSTER FRAUDSTERS OF THAT TIME) evoked and perpetrated upon them, and the innate need to still believe in LOVE and those LONG WALKS ON THE BEACH hand in hand with the love of your life, still influencing their every motivation…Most cannot ever leave that behind…For those LUCKY enough to have their harpy DIE before them, or RUN OFF with some CHAD, and FACED with solitude, the first years can be beyond frightening, and movies like “Grumpy Old Men” and so many others only come to reinforce that NEED to find another LOVELESS broad to fill that void…ALL THE WHILE overlooking the MANY facts such as, FREE TIME FOR FISHING, or I WILL SHOVEL THAT WALK WHEN I DAD-GUM GOOD AND WELL FEEL LIKE IT, or, IF I WANT TO HAVE A NICE GREEN LAWN, YOU WOULD SEE ME OUT THERE SLAVING AWAY, BUT YOU DON’T DO YOU, CAUSE I WOKE UP AND REALIZED THAT NICE GREEN LAWNS WERE FOR POOR SORRY SAPS TO HAVE AN ESCAPE FROM THE DULL DRUM HO-HUM LOVELESS LIFE HE IS STUCK IN…And NOW, instead of SLAVING AWAY in the SOLAR RADIATED heat of the day, I am SITTING BACK, enjoying a GOOD BOOK with a nice glass of KISS MY REAR…!!! But there is hope…There is always hope…there are a great many men finding there way to sites like this one, and coming to the understanding that a new adventure can be exciting, and once you get over the fact that the reality we were all sold when we were young boys was nothing but a PIPE DREAM and pipe over the back of the head, life can be MOVED forward alone…and it doesn’t have too suck…It can ACTUALLY be rewarding…Yes brothers…I am seeing more and more men of this age group waking up too this, however, this generation of men is an awfully stubborn one, and sadly, many will never come to know the taste of freedom…Just the way it is…

    Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....

    #834640
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    Anonymous
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    why continue to waste whatever time you have left to follow that same path ??

    You know that refusal to face change?

    Its like that old story of the western professor visiting a Buddhist sage. The old monk fills him a cup of tea, and keeps filling until it starts spilling out.
    The professor says: the cup is full, it cannot take more tea.
    The monk replies: and so it is your mind, so full of ideas that you cannot learn anything else.

    Something like that.

    What I realized in my life is that most of my “progression” resulted of unlearning something I was sure it was true.

    It was only when I could give up on some structural idea that I could see something different.

    Yet, to allow such change to occur is very difficult and traumatic. Very few can really change, and it requires life to use brute force on their stubborn heads.

    And being a stubborn head myself I know what I am saying.

    Unfortunately, those that we value for their strength or achievements are the most stubborn and less prone to change.

    Yet, as if a curse, they are also the first to realize the emptiness of their achievements – because they achieved it.

    It is those that had no opportunity or willpower to acheive their goals that will be more delusional and think happiness lies at the end of that particular rainbow.

    A man that never married because no woman wanted him is the most entrenched blue pill.

    The married man is the most likely to swallow the red pill.

    If he allows it…

    #834646
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    Awakened
    Awakened
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    why continue to waste whatever time you have left to follow that same path ??

    You know that refusal to face change?

    Its like that old story of the western professor visiting a Buddhist sage. The old monk fills him a cup of tea, and keeps filling until it starts spilling out.
    The professor says: the cup is full, it cannot take more tea.
    The monk replies: and so it is your mind, so full of ideas that you cannot learn anything else.

    Something like that.

    What I realized in my life is that most of my “progression” resulted of unlearning something I was sure it was true.

    It was only when I could give up on some structural idea that I could see something different.

    Yet, to allow such change to occur is very difficult and traumatic. Very few can really change, and it requires life to use brute force on their stubborn heads.

    And being a stubborn head myself I know what I am saying.

    Unfortunately, those that we value for their strength or achievements are the most stubborn and less prone to change.

    Yet, as if a curse, they are also the first to realize the emptiness of their achievements – because they achieved it.

    It is those that had no opportunity or willpower to acheive their goals that will be more delusional and think happiness lies at the end of that particular rainbow.

    A man that never married because no woman wanted him is the most entrenched blue pill.

    The married man is the most likely to swallow the red pill.

    If he allows it…

    I couldn’t decide which part to quote because it is ALL so TRUE !!

    Many People are AFRAID to Change, and really can’t unless Life forces them to.

    Trying to “unlearn” is just what we do around here everyday, and I take it for granted that others can too.

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #834648
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    The man in the mountain
    The man in the mountain
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    Deep down he still wants validation from mommy, or he still thinks is “worth it” and makes you look good having a screaming doll next to you when you are seeing in public.

    This is one more man that has not appreciated the peace and happiness that being alone brings you.

    #834674
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    Experienced
    experienced
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    HE CHOOSES TO REMAIN MISERABLE

    I work every day with two blue pill guys who are both in their mid 50’s. You can see the misery that encompasses their total being every damn day. I laugh to myself because that was me five years ago. They both are fat e and out of shape and mostly unhappy all the time. They are slaves. One even has to work on the weekends to make enough money to facilitate his family’s lifestyle. I see this in just about every married guy I know. Some more than others, but generally they’re all not very happy people once you know them. A lot are in over their heads in debt and have to work side gigs.
    Anyway, We talk frequently about the death of my bitch and how my life is now. They’re always bringing up getting me to try dating or talk to this bitch or that bitch. In return I red pill carpet bomb the f~~~ out of them. Both have told me they couldn’t imagine life without their slave masters and how lost they would be. Both have told me how jealous they are of me because of the freedom I have to basically do whatever I want or to chase after whoever I want. Ultimately, I think most of these guys know how great it would be to be single again, but some are kind of institutionalized. They would like their freedom, but are too blue pill and scared to know what to do with it. Most, like I was, are too financially unable to withstand a divorce or lose their s~~~ or kids, so they choose to remain in their pathetic state of misery. I got lucky and I thank the good Lord everyday for bringing me that blessing.

    Pardon my having
    Misread this as,
    “Death By Bitch”
    But I think it applies to any interaction with THE LAYDEEZ today.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #834677
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    Anonymous
    11

    well none of us are truly going our own way if we are employed.

    So true, at least if a client works me 70 hours a week I make massive amounts of money. Salaried jobs are used by the elites to steal time from the common man w/o just compensation.

    #834688
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    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
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    I need to think of an idea and start my own business I can’t stand this land whale infested s~~~ hole job much longer-only been there 2 months…

    If it goes wrong and I end up homeless so be it.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #834692
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    Anonymous
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    That asshole is still trying bait me into that no salary commission only sales job with a lead list that was pulled from a morgue drawer. He tried the old inflate title trick and told me he was covering me from big boss as if he were doing me a favor.

    They want to leverage my technical skills too as part of the package. I will for $150 an hour plus travel expenses. His response, silence.

    To stay on topic, I choose freedom. I recently had to use blackmail to gain my freedom. I don’t normally blackmail.

    #834698
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    Autolite
    Autolite
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    HE CHOOSES TO REMAIN MISERABLE.

    This is something that I SHALL NEVER UNDERSTAND ????

    I know a guy who got married a FIFTH time after four miserable marriages and a financially crippling divorce from the fourth wife. The only explanation is that these guys actually want a miserable life.

    I will never understand either. We need a psychologist on this forum to provide us an answer…

    #834700
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    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
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    4352

    This is something that Bar Bar and Stardusk have spoken about in the past .

    Too many men have been programmed to think they cant live without women and sex .

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #834703
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    Autolite
    Autolite
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    Too many men have been programmed to think they cant live without women and sex

    Maybe they believed that they’re right about marriage being the way to go and their own ego just won’t let them admit that they’re wrong. Destroying their lives is easier to deal with than admitting to being wrong…

    #834768
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    Even men with a toxic spouse can be devastated when she dies. If you’re not used to being alone, being thrust into it very suddenly is extremely difficult and painful, so much that I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s easy for people who are used to being alone to recommend a divorce to a miserable man, but if you’ve been with someone all your life, it’s not so easy.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

    #834777
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    Awakened
    Awakened
    Participant
    35204

    It’s easy for people who are used to being alone to recommend a divorce to a miserable man, but if you’ve been with someone all your life, it’s not so easy.

    I’ve been married about 20, and was with her for 2 years prior to marriage, and I am counting the days, months, and years to the youngest enters her senior year in high school, and we can start the divorce process.

    I do get your point that Many Men ONLY KNOW MISERY, and have just come to accept this as their norm. I’m Grateful that’s NOT ME.

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #834785
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    Knights Templar Rising
    Knights Templar Rising
    Participant
    5116

    During our three month Whitetail season:

    Q: how much you get in the stand?
    A: every day, sometimes twice.
    Q: what does your wife say about that?
    A: wife? Hahahahaha!

    Sovereignty above all else.

    #834794
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    Jeremiah Johnson
    Jeremiah Johnson
    Participant
    2219

    I need to think of an idea and start my own business I can’t stand this land whale infested s~~~ hole job much longer-only been there 2 months…

    If it goes wrong and I end up homeless so be it.

    I am absolutely CERTAIN, that if you are willing to spend some time with a good shovel and have the time to do so, this very topic has been pretty well covered…The brothers here have provided TONS of answers to this problem of giving our labor to those elite puppet masters as slaves…You can DO IT…There are a ton of things you can do on your own…What kind of background do you come from…?
    What kind of training have you had or schooling…??
    Answers to these questions can lead brothers to an enormous amount of wonderful ideas on how to separate thyself from that evil slave job…not an easy task either, can be scary as all heck, but rewarding beyond all measure also…And now that Obama is no longer our president, your no longer subject to a number of penalties for reaching out to succeed on your own terms brother…Dig..I promise there are a ton of super awesome ideas that have been thrown out there…!!!

    Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....

    #834867
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    FrostByte
    FrostByte
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    19005

    Every married man I have met – get him alone with few drinks in him , and he will tell you about all about the dreams he gave up to make her happy. They all end their tale of sorrow consoling themselves by trying to place a false virtue on their loss calling it sacrifice, but there is no morality in letting another person waste your life for you.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

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