China Steps Into The Middle East Maelstrom (As Peacemakers)

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22578]

China Steps Into The Middle East Maelstrom (As Peacemakers)

Here is the article: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-17/china-steps-middle-east-maelstrom

While the article is mostly theory on what happens next, the article does state that China is not getting involved in Middle Eastern politics. But, not as conquers, but as peacemakers.

The article omits the Silk Road Project that China has been working on, with one of the routes going through the Middle East, into Europe and Northern Africa.

This is troubling, China is an empire whom is ascending and everyone knows this. In the last decade instead of conquering by military force, China has been using economics to conquer and take control of nations. This is what the Silk Road is about. This can mainly be seen right now with various nations in Southeast Asia and in Africa. But, the list puppet states serving China is growing.

When is comes to the Middle East, China will use their economic influence in attempt to bring peace to the region. China might pull this off. People forget that while China’s currency is shaky, China has spent the last decade horde much of the gold in the world. China has the wealth, personnel and industry to pull this off.

But, if the China brings peace, it will be peace through bribery, with China eventually convincing the governments of many of these nations to allow a Chinese military presence in those nations.

While this happens China will quietly buy the businesses, using bribery to governments to let this happen.

By the time the governments of the nations realize they do not own their own nations it will be to late, with the Chinese military entrenched in their nation, with their nations becoming only colonial regions to China.

Keep in mind, the Chinese Communist government has no religious ties to the Middle East. They do not care about the religious origins of the disputes within the various groups in the Middle East. The Chinese only see the Middle east as an investment opportunity to increase their wealth and power.

The Chinese Communist Party are not hampered by worry of the feelings of the people and cultures of other nations. The Chinese dignitaries are polite, but that does not mean that they respect those they are polite to.

At the same time, China will using the U.S. warmongering against itself and offer to be the ones to make sure the peace is maintained if the U.S. and perhaps even Russia is expelled from the Middle East.

President Trump is trying to prevent another war in the Middle East.

On a side note, in April 2017, President Trump invited President Xi of China to his home, Mar-A-Lago, in Florida, away from the ears of D.C. The two men had several private discussions alone.

It is possible that President Trump may have cut a deal with President Xi, China lets the west have North Korea and the U.S. will let China have the Middle East, along with likely removing the U.S. military presence from the Korean peninsula once South Korea was in full control of North Korea.

President Trump can justify this as a way to prevent World War III with the Russian over Syria and prevent World War III with the Chinese over North Korea.

The only real reasons for the U.S. being in the Middle East are very few. The main reason being oil and natural gas. Well, that reason has diminished greatly in the last decade where the U.S. is pulling more oil and natural gas from the ground than the Middle East.

Presently, the U.S. can afford to cut the Middle East loose.

[joetechParticipant]

When the Soviet Union collapsed China saw what happened and changed their tactics with the U.S. Suddenly there were American companies building plants in China. If China takes over the world I’m fine with that. I like Chinese food. They can’t be worse than the gynocracy we have now…can they?

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

China has about as much chance of bringing peace to the middle east as santa clause does. What the hell does anyone want with that place anyway. We don’t need the oil anymore.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22578]

Romulus wrote:

China has about as much chance of bringing peace to the middle east as santa clause does.

Ironically, that is how China will do it, bribe the government leaders into declaring peace, with strings attached.

Which is what the U.S. has been doing for the last sixty years, when the U.S. is not resorting to regime change.

Voltaire said it best, “When it comes to money, everyone is of the same religion.”

Romulus wrote:

What the hell does anyone want with that place anyway.

If the China pulls off peace in the Middle East is a major geo-political win for them. The good political momentum this would create would make their plans go much more easily in other parts of the world.

Also, the Middle East is one of two main trade routes for China to reach Europe and Africa. The other route is through part of Russia and those nations located in central Asia.

Romulus wrote:

We don’t need the oil anymore.

The U.S. does not. But, China would like to have access to that oil and natural gas so China would not have to rely mainly on Russia for oil and natural gas.

It is mentioned in the article I links above that China is making deals with Middle East nations for oil.

Also, it is rumored the one of the reasons that Saudi Arabia almost went to war with Qatar last year was that Qatar had made a deal with China to sell some of their vast their natural gas reserves to China by accepting the Yuan as payment, instead of the U.S. greenback currency. (That was a complicated issue I do not want to get into.)

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22559]

joetech wrote:

When the Soviet Union collapsed China saw what happened and changed their tactics with the U.S. Suddenly there were American companies building plants in China. If China takes over the world I’m fine with that. I like Chinese food. They can’t be worse than the gynocracy we have now…can they?

You have never met someone who has lived under full fledged communism, I bet.

Yes they can be far worse than the unconstitutional multiple-related isms we are resisting here in America.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

I’m not really disagreeing with you as to why china is doing it as much as I am seeing a different outcome. If China wants to trade across the region I’m all for it. Trade is good.

If they think spreading money around will stop the Shiites from fighting with the Sunnis, then all I can say best of luck.

I suspect its just a matter of trade right now. They need markets, and resources. But to secure those markets, and resources, the second phase is to do what all great powers do to secure trade routes, they’ll open some military bases for their navy.

Trade doesn’t necessarily bring peace. Sometimes trade brings competition for resources, access, routes, those things that make up power.

And sometimes trade doesn’t matter, you will give up trade and other affiliations and go to war if you feel your culture, religion and way of life is under threat.

America has no large interest there anymore really. It has involved itself in the Great Game as inheritance from the British…….it does keep the arms industry happy, and important men get to move things around on situation maps. But there isn’t one thing we need from there.

I don’t really disagree with you, except the part about trade and peace nexus somewhat. It’s a good play by china right now. If china wants to involve itself, I’m all for it.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

Faust For Science wrote:

It is possible that President Trump may have cut a deal with President Xi, China lets the west have North Korea and the U.S. will let China have the Middle East, along with likely removing the U.S. military presence from the Korean peninsula once South Korea was in full control of North Korea.

I thought China got their slave labor from North Korea, and that’s why they protect it. Not quite convince they would trade that for the s~~~show middle east

[Anonymous 1]

It was bound to happen sooner or later. The USA has been sabotaged by the globalists for almost my entire life. China has been groomed to take over as the World’s Police Man. The Globalists have long since prepared China for this role. They gave China all of our factories and military technology for this purpose.

The wars in the Mideast were the last Hoorah of American Might. A disaster much worse than Vietnam with nothing to gain and everything to lose. Our economy is depleted, our military is exhausted, and our culture is a decadent wasteland of blue haired transgender freak shows.

Game over…A new star is rising over the world and its color is RED.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22578]

Romulus wrote:

I’m not really disagreeing with you as to why china is doing it as much as I am seeing a different outcome. If China wants to trade across the region I’m all for it. Trade is good.

You do not understand. For China trade is about the transfer of wealth from nations to China. This is basically the same tactics of globalism, only instead the wealth of going into the hands of the wealthy all around the world, the wealth goes into China.

Juehue wrote:

I thought China got their slave labor from North Korea, and that’s why they protect it. Not quite convince they would trade that for the s~~~show middle east

Not currently. Presently, China uses North Korea as the “sick man of Southeast Asia” to keep the western powers their off balance and waste money from a possible North Korean attack. But, this situation is starting to effect China in a negative way.

Anonymous wrote:

The USA has been sabotaged by the globalists for almost my entire life. China has been groomed to take over as the World’s Police Man. The Globalists have long since prepared China for this role. They gave China all of our factories and military technology for this purpose.

The irony is that China is taking the globalists for a ride. China’s own elitists probably made all sorts of promises to the globalists, but if anyone bother to look at the “fine print” to these deals this wealth all becomes China’s property in the end.

Sometimes I feel like when I talk about China with other people, it is like talking to blue pillers about women.

Because these actions do not YET directly effect the major western nations, including the U.S. and U.K., most people in the west are ignoring this, especially the corporate media.

It is hard to find information about China’s Silk Road Project and how that project is progressing, but what I have found is not good for the long term.

This is literally watching a major military power move towards everyone’s flank, with most people ignoring such actions.

People believe that because China does not have a history of military expansion beyond their borders, except for some small neighboring nations, such as Tibet, that China is not capable of taking over the world. That would be a major mistake to believe on this matter.

The worst part is they are doing it through peace and trade, while playing against the westerns own military actions. China coming in and pushing western powers out of nations, on nation at a time.

By all appearances, these tactics will likely work.

Personally, I respect that China is playing the game so well. Though, that the issue is that China is playing the game so well.

The best comparison is China is playing a real world version of the board game Risk, only instead of with their military, they are doing so economically.

[Anonymous 1]

Faust For Science wrote:

This is literally watching a major military power move towards everyone’s flank, with most people ignoring such actions.

I know, it is alarming to see this happen. You know what is really weird. China is buying up lots of Real Estate in Canada and USA. A few years back they almost built an entire town here in Michigan.

I wonder where they are going with this, but think about the long term strategy here. China has accumulated a lot of territory here in North America, more than people realize. I wonder how many of these purchases that were made as corporations, but are really just front companies for the Chinese Government.

This story from Infowars is true. China City was almost a reality here in Michigan. Luckily, it got stopped, but this is just the beginning….

China City

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22578]

Anonymous wrote:

I know, it is alarming to see this happen. You know what is really weird. China is buying up lots of Real Estate in Canada and USA. A few years back they almost built an entire town here in Michigan.

Yes. But, a lot of that is private Chinese citizens trying to move their wealth out of China to keep the Chinese government from seizing it.

This is another reason globalism will not work. Most of the world’s wealthy individuals and groups do not trust holding their wealth in the nation they are a citizen to. Yet, they want a world government that ultimately will prevent them from shifting their wealth to a outside third party.

When is comes to the U.S. and Canada, for China is more targets of opportunity that an attempt at full take over.

Presently, China has their hands full with their projects in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East.

Rumor has it that the Bundy Ranch stand off in Nevada a few years ago was due to Reid secretly promising China the Bundy Ranch land to the China. When the Feds back down, soon after Reid had his “gym accident” and he soon announced his retirement from politics.

Though, keep in mind that China controls many seaports and airports around the world, including ports in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico.

An interesting note. When compared to the globalists, the elitists in China view wealth and achieving power differently. The globalist believe that accumulating all the wealth, hording that wealth, and forcing people into debt slavery is the key to power.

While China does horde its wealth, China views that spending wealth to make more wealth so China can buy up everything is the key to power.

China likely have a better view on these matters.

[Anonymous 1]

Faust For Science wrote:

Yes. But, a lot of that is private Chinese citizens trying to move their wealth out of China to keep the Chinese government from seizing it.

Yes, I understand this is also why Chinese were investing in CryptoCurrency, until the Government cracked down on it.

Faust For Science wrote:

Though, keep in mind that China controls many seaports and airports around the world, including ports in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico.

Yes, I seem to recall Bill Clinton giving them a sea port back in the 90’s. I consider Airports and Seaports to be vital infrastructure. It’s alarming to see a foreign power acquiring so many of them.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

China is making moves to totally try to shut down and block the Crypto arena. As the technology in that area matures and stabilizes, and trillions of dollars in economic growth will come about as a result, and China will slits its own throat. The central control China has, will be broken.

The projects in this area, legitimate projects, are growing each day, and will have a lot of money in them. China can slit its own throats. One I am looking to get involved with, involves using technology of Crypto to improve supply chains.

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