Child Support Agency = Gynocentric?

[Dark Ninja DaveParticipant 273]

Hi again all

When I introduced myself a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned that I am in a rather unique position regarding child support payments. As I have been primary care giver to my child for several years after the divorce, the assessments state that my ex actually has to pay me support!

To keep the peace, I have refrained from enforcing payment or having the Child Support people collect on my behalf (no surprise here, but the ex was obsessed with money and wasting it, so hitting her purse was always going to unleash Hell). Until now, that is… On the advice of OldBill and others here, I finally made the phone call to request them to make her meet her obligations.

I’ve dealt with Child Support several times over the years, and notice that every time I call their call centre, the operator has always been a lady. Every time. It seems a bit unfair, and not in the spirit of true gender equality. Not only does there seem to be no employment opportunities for guys there, but you just have to wonder what bias goes on as well…

In contrast, when I contact Centrelink (that is our general social security department here in Australia; they handle unemployment benefits, pensions, disability services etc…), I’d say it was about 50/50 that I’d speak to a dude.

Right now, I am half expecting that my request will “conveniently” fall off the desk into the bin. I mean, a mother paying child support?!? Preposterous! Gotta look after the other sisters…

I’m just venting a bit, but also interested to hear from others here what their experiences have been when dealing with their countries child support system.

Cheers

[UntamedParticipant]

I’ve never dealt with CP in my country, and never will, but I’ve dealt with CP in the U.S
How should I describe that one… FemiNazis’ Misandry Hive Central.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Just want to throw this out there. I’ve never messed around with this stuff, but I know people who have. In some cases, you gotta ask 3 times. If they say no, lose it, deny it, etc. Keep asking. Don’t give up on the first shot.

As far as women and feeling sorry for them. Women made their bed, now they can lay in it.

Don’t feel sorry, they wouldn’t feel sorry for you. Fair is fair. And in this unfair world, get as much fair as you can get.

Again, if you don’t get it on the first shot. Keep asking.

And I’ve heard from people who have gone through different things, like government benefits, and one of the ladies said after his 3rd try. He said “Why didn’t you just do it the first time.” and she said something like, “We wanted to make sure you were serious.” They do this as a means of weeding people out. And this particular situation had to do with receiving unemployment or something along those lines, some kind of welfare type deal. Regardless, what I learned was, don’t give up if you ever get denied on the first try. They do this kind of stuff just to simply weed people out. I worked for a corporation, we did the same thing with people dealing with phones. We had a system we had to follow, and that included not replacing their phone until like 3 times.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[OldBillParticipant]

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Every time you call those c~~~s CSA, you note the time, the date, and the name of the bitch you spoke with. If you don’t get prompt service, you speak with a supervisor. If that doesn’t work, you speak with their supervisor. If the “Old Girls” network is still dragging their feet to protect your c~~~ish ex-wife, you contact your federal representative’s and/or senator’s office.

Start squeaking and get what you are legally owed.

Your c~~~ ex-wife has been ignoring a legal judgement for years now. You’ve been helping her do that in some quixotic belief it would keep the peace. She and the entire machinery of your state and federal government there in Australia would have chased you down like the Hounds of Hell if you’d been a penny short on any child support you owed her.

Get the money she owes her children and don’t let that c~~~ wriggle off the hook ever again.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 42]

Don’t you have to have kids to get f~~~ed by that particular agency of the system?

I never got f~~~ed, therefore I have nothing to say…

[foolsgoldParticipant 5664]

Once I caught wind the soon to be ex was going to file for child support I immediately quit my job. I later took a job that paid half as much. Seeing the look on her face and her c~~~ attorney makes me smile to this day. For the first time in her life she was forced to take a job that paid more. It’s been over 10 years and she’s bitching about it to this day. I hope you are as relentless as they would be against you if you were on the other end of it. Good luck.

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

CSA will give men only two weeks to dispute being gouged. My ex was never happy with child support… I have it on a form for more money that she wanted four times the amount that was due.

It is a good time to get CSA dipping into any potential tax return of hers.. so get to it. CSA calculations also can be used strategically to scope out any fraud or tax evasion going on.. a little extra yards to the c~~~ punt.

I had a male officer do my case review re private schools. The kids had no school fees, and the ex illegaly enrolled them both at a school which happened to be the most expensive in town. The CSA came through..o2tosin has not consented to the change so she was liable for the fees that are in excess of $200 000 . Actually, my full child support payments are less than half school fees anyway.

I also had a glitch, where I was charged only $115 for last months child support.

24 payments to go and I am a free man again.

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[Dark Ninja DaveParticipant 273]

Thanks for the support guys! I am definitely in this for the long battle. Plus s~~~ just got serious, the ex is also taking me to the family court in coming months. I play the nice guy, and this is what happens. Lesson learnt: don’t play the nice guy, you just get taken advantage of.

I’m sure they will be handling my matter with kid-gloves. It’s plain hypocritical. There was this story on news.com.au about the heavy-handed approach a few months ago they took with one guy. Maybe it was posted here,

Ruined by child support: ‘My one night stand is still costing me’

I didn’t hear anything from her until nine months after my son was born.
A man knocked at the door serving a court order for DNA for child support.
I was sitting at home watching TV with my then partner of nearly two years. She’d relocated to move in with me. We were happy.
I’d mentioned the phone call after my one-night stand and she’d shrugged it off saying, “What kind of woman would do that?”
This guy asked my name and said he was here to serve a court order.
I couldn’t believe it. “This lady is a complete fool …” I started to say.
He cut me off, “If you don’t sign, we’ll seize your assets.”
I signed.
My then partner and I sat on the couch stunned for about five hours. We couldn’t even find the words to talk.
I did the DNA test just before Christmas and had to stew on the results until January 20. The DNA cost me $2,000 plus I paid a lawyer, which cost around $5,000.
The Child Support Agency (CSA) then backdated the child support to the birth of my son. Just like that I was $12,000 out of pocket.
I was left reeling, worried sick, thinking, “How am I going to pay my mortgage and bills plus this?” It was an absolute nightmare.
In the end, I had to rent my place out.
My partner and I moved in with my parents.
I was struggling at work and ended up resigning. Life has been a complete disaster since. Actually, that’s an understatement. My mental health is in a bad way. I have no idea how it will hold up for the next 12 years while I have to pay this.
Why am I paying 100 per cent child support? I haven’t seen him once. A lawyer for the family court charges around $500 per hour. I don’t have that financial capacity. I’m left going round in circles thinking, “Why would somebody do this? What do I owe her?”
The government needs to recognise the impact this is having on men’s lives.
My partner packed up and left last year. Our split was amicable. We tried to make it work for four or five years but I had no money to be able to do anything.
We went from having our own place to living back with my parents and having no money at all.
The percentage of second relationships that fail because of child support issues dragging from previous relationships is huge.
I’m not surprised so many men give up. There’s something seriously wrong with this outdated system. It doesn’t work in modern society where many relationships don’t last. Let alone my situation. How is this right?
It’s affected my health. Sometimes I wonder if I might have PTSD. I’ve always been a fitness fanatic so thankfully I have that as a buffer. I exercise a lot and practise yoga, I don’t drink alcohol at all. I do everything I can to try to keep my mental health as strong as possible.
What about the poor blokes who don’t have that? Or don’t have parental support themselves?
There are over 20 men every week suiciding — and the government doesn’t think this is a national emergency? You’ve got to be kidding.
The CSA is costing people their houses, their jobs, their lives. It’s a complete farce.
I’ve given up.
I pay my child support and I hope one day my son comes looking for me.
I’ve lost all hope — in politics, in the system, in life.
*Name has been changed to protect identity.
Court documents have been sighted by news.com.au that confirm this story.

Backdated the payments to the birth of the child?
And I’m told that I can claim only 3 months of arrears.

[Dark Ninja DaveParticipant 273]

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t you have to have kids to get f~~~ed by that particular agency of the system?

I never got f~~~ed, therefore I have nothing to say…

Yep.
Having a kid as part of your life has it’s good moments.
But in the current environment, it is a huge mistake.
Never again!

Just don’t do it folks!

Coincidentally, I have my “date” with the urologist today, to get ready for “the snip”.

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

Quite obvious, the double standard. I reckon you sound smart enough to self represent in court. Hell, as respondent you can say nothing. Of course, her interest is to seek custody of your child to spite you. In family court, the proceedings are carried out informally if you represent yourself. Be aware that there is a very loose definition of family violence , of WHICH YOU ARE A VICTIM. As you have been taken to court in the context of seeking standard child support. Use duty solicitors and I am happy to help if yiu want to pm me.

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[MonkParticipant 17050]

OldBill wrote:

Every time you call those c~~~s CSA, you note the time, the date, and the name of the bitch you spoke with.

This is effective when dealing with any jobsworth. They all fear personal responsibility.

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

By knowing you can collect from her, you have consented to being unpsid. The reluctant ‘father’ in the article who was spermjacked did not know… so he has been ruined from greed. It is poignant that he did not see his son. We desperately need male abortion rights.

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

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