Child Services

[frankParticipant 31]

I’m a single father that was able to get 100% custody over my son by using his mothers greed against her.
She willingly signed the papers giving me full custody with the hopes of getting extra money every month so she could keep up her designer bag lifestyle.
Well that was 4 years ago.

Last winter my kindergarten reported me to child services because they didn’t see me often enough, I had an au-pair that delivered and picked him up everyday, he had the cloths he needed and we well fed. He got a long with all the children even though he could be a little bossy (their words) at times something I see nothing wrong with.
I know a lot of women that have been through child services here in Norway and most of the time child services bend backwards to help them. I even know single mothers that have hit their kids and still nothing happens, and other mothers that go drinking every weekend and are still riding the c~~~ carousel with little regard to how that affects their children.
But with me they threatened to take my son if I didn’t change my job situation, so I ended up quitting my job so that I wouldn’t risk loosing my son.
Well that was 7 months ago and they still hound me every week. Their latest complaint is that I’m not emotional enough to see what my son needs and that it would be better for him if they take custody over him. My son doesn’t want to sleep over at friends because he doesn’t want to be far away from me, he tried sleeping over at our neighbors house and at 11 pm they had to bring him back because he started crying and calling for me. I will admit that I’m not the most emotional person and that I can at times seem cold but it doesn’t change the fact that I would move heaven and earth for my son.

The worst part is that my neighbors are teachers and they have both told me that my son is a normal, healthy boy and they don’t understand how this is happening. And I’m told the same thing by everyone that knows me, they say that I’m a great father that does everything I can to make sure my son is happy.

I just don’t know what to do anymore, in December I have to go to court to fight child services over the custody of my son. And my biggest fear is that I will loose him because I’m a father and not a mother.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

This is a very dirty game where you are expected to play clean.

I don’t know the laws in Norway …. but I can guess how it is for fathers.

I played dirty. I went on dating sights and deliberately dated a child welfare worker, pediatric doctor and a few more women the would back me up.

I did come clean with them after a while and before court.

This might be a way. Maybe ask a friend to be your girlfriend or a guy to be your gay partner.

I take it you are a single white heterosexual male? … .. you are being hunted …. you are game.

Under the boot of a woman or as a gay couple will allow you certain freedoms.

Think outside the box.

Sorry I can’t offer more.

Come back and talk if you get more info.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Ok the gloves have to come off. What is it with Sweden and Norway and why do we keep getting emails from these countries that sound exactly the same? Fathers being bossed around by some c~~~s who aren’t even FAMILY??

Forget a bout the standards for women and their s~~~ty single mother behavior. You can’t do anything about those failures at life and parenting, but you can grab yourself by the b~~~~ and decide enough is enough.

frank wrote:

Last winter my kindergarten reported me to child services because they didn’t see me often enough

They are not “YOUR kindergarten” they don’t exist the moment you decide they don’t exist. They are totally insiginificant starting right now. Stop being polite and politically correct or doing what they want. They are kindgarten c~~~s and they have no business in your life. Why are you taking orders from the asst~~~s??? You can pull your son out of that toxic hornets nest of chickstink.

frank wrote:

Their latest complaint is that I’m not emotional enough to see what my son needs

Who cares what their complaint is . They can make anything up the want. Refuse to let them.
One second you’re “not emotional enough”,,,,,,,, the next second you are “too emotional”.

Stop. Listening. To. Women.
Starting now, their opinion of you is insignificant.

I would march right up to the c~~~ that said and got really emotional in her face and asked “is this emotional enough for you you stupid f~~~ing t~~~t??”. Yes I would. The fear of losing your son is what they are using to control you. When you don’t have any fear anymore – you are like Superman. NOBODY can bring you down. Fear is what they are counting on. You can win some impossible battles the moment you toss fear out the window. You will amaze yourself. When you’re not afraid anymore, nobody can compete with that. Because they have NO IDEA what you are capable of doing when you have no more fear.

You bring your son with you and one of your neighbors if you have to . You corner the kindergarten piece of s~~~ t~~~s who are giving you a hard time and you ask your son infront of your neighbour with EVERYBODY in the room and you record it. “Do you love your father and want to live with me? Then tell this lady to stay the f~~~ out of our lives.”

And then get YOUR SON to threaten her.

“If you f~~~ing come between me and my father….. I will f~~~ing destroy you,,, you miserable bitch. I will make it my mission in life.”

… and they can’t nail you on it. Because he said it. Just like this:

frank wrote:

I would move heaven and earth for my son.

Time to find that out. You’re not going to move anything. You’re gonna make THEM move out of your way. They are the grease in the sink, and you are the drop of soap.

It’s what I would do.
Whatever it takes to win. No limits.

“It would be better for him if we take custody over him”

“It would be better for you if you didn’t. I can promise you that. “

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

Hi Frank! Welcome to the MGTOW forums, it is unfortunate that it is under such circumstances. Firstly endeavour to stay calm (meta moment, google it), OK next get references from your teacher neighbors as evidence to prove that you are a good father, I would also pull your child from this kindergarten as it is a noxious environment. If you haven’t done so already write up a journal of all that has happened with the date and time if possible, as you want to use this to prove you are a good father and they are troublemakers. Another thought is to have a keyring that has audio recording capabilities should the police be involved to use any incriminating things they say against them.

At the very least you have taken steps to cover your ass and prove how absurd the kindergarten is. Though I emphasize that you stay calm no matter what happens as it can be used against you. Goodluck Frank! I’m sure you are a good Father, though sometimes people act erroneously out of insecurity. Rise above it all!!!

Take care and keep us updated brother, we are with you.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[UntamedParticipant]

You better have a good f~~~ing lawyer and get your t~~~ neigbors to speak in court on your behalf as character witnesses along with your parents and any other family members who’s willing to support you. I only hope it’s enough for the Family-Terrorists to leave you alone but somehow I doubt it.
You’ve already changed job for this insane situation, I’d advise you to move away, if not out of the country then in another place in Norway, maybe a bigger city where they have too much going on to think about targeting you.
If I was in your shoes, I’d move to another country. I’d even put myself as a refugee from a country that threatens yours and boy’s social life, mental health and professional opportunities. They’re turning the both of you into victims! Seek counsel.
This place is a good start. Welcome!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

I get that “you’re too cold” s~~~ every day too. I have two boys and that is the way you have to be in order to raise them as men. You have to be strict and direct and even cold at times so they can understand RULES and develop morality. Those f~~~ing bitches don’t understand this, and that’s why boys raised by single mothers or by the state turn out so bad.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you ex wife has a hand in this. Do some digging and make sure she wasn’t the one who initiated all of this. Also, try to explain to your son exactly what is going on. A boy who loves his father will be ruthless to the people who attack his father. Hire a good lawyer if you can afford one. Seek help from father’s rights organizations if there are any in Norway. Make sure you have people that can testify to your good relationship with your son. Talk to them about what’s going on.
If everything else fails, prepare to MOVE, either to the other side of the country or outside the country if need be. Start looking for places in the world where your skills are in demand and immigration is easy. Even if you move for just a couple of years on a work visa, by the time you are back things would have cooled off. Your son will be older and closer to you then ever.

Whatever you do, FIGHT! If you don’t both your lives will be miserable forever.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[frankParticipant 31]

I have a lawyer and all of my friends and neighbors are willing to testify for me.
I am thinking about moving to the USA as I’m an American citizen (my family lives in Norway). But I’m also looking into taking child services and the Norwegian government to court over the treatment I’ve been getting for the past 12 months.

John Woods 13: I agree, raising a real man takes a lot of work and you can’t always cuddle them. You need to sett boundaries or they will turn into the f~~~ing balless SJW and I don’t want that s~~~ for him.

Thank you all for the support and ideas.

[Anonymous 42]

In my world “CHILD SERVICES” would involve a bunch kids running around with machineguns and grenades! I’d have the little s~~~s raiding foxholes at age 5!!!

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

I’m sorry that you’re being put in this s~~~ty situation, man.

[frankParticipant 31]

Women’s lib is really big in Norway and Sweden. That is why you hear a lot of this from fathers in these two country’s.
In Norway men have been on the wrong end of the whipping stick since the 70’s, and most of the rules that are made with the mother in mind. The new law they are looking to pass, is that a mother without any evidence can claim that the father is either beating or raping the child(ren) and the father will loose all visitation rights before he even gets to set foot in a courtroom.

When it comes to my sons mother, she’s not even in Norway anymore so I know she doesn’t have anything to do with this. If it was her I would have lost my son the first day.
And he is no longer in that kindergarten, I also told them they could burn.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

frank wrote:

I’m an American citizen (my family lives in Norway). But I’m also looking into taking child services and the Norwegian government to court over the treatment I’ve been getting for the past 12 months.

Well, this changes things a bit. Did you get the US citizenship for your boy too? If yes, Norway child services can’t do anything to a US citizen. And if they push too hard, you go to the US embassy and tell them you are being harassed by the Norwegian government. They will back down. Also, you can play this card when you are dealing with the child services people, as they may not be aware of your US citizenship.
Talk to your lawyer and see if you have a case against them, and if you do, take them to court. I would. That would almost guarantee you won’t have any other issues with them in the future and you’ll have a good story to tell your boy how you fought for him.
Worst case, move to the states in a deep red state where you will be left alone by the government nut jobs.

Good luck to you.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[frankParticipant 31]

Well, this changes things a bit. Did you get the US citizenship for your boy too? If yes, Norway child services can’t do anything to a US citizen. And if they push too hard, you go to the US embassy and tell them you are being harassed by the Norwegian government. They will back down. Also, you can play this card when you are dealing with the child services people, as they may not be aware of your US citizenship.Talk to your lawyer and see if you have a case against them, and if you do, take them to court. I would. That would almost guarantee you won’t have any other issues with them in the future and you’ll have a good story to tell your boy how you fought for him.Worst case, move to the states in a deep red state where you will be left alone by the government nut jobs.
Good luck to you.

I’ve already talked to the embassy and they said they can’t help as I am bound by the law here in Norway.
But if s~~~ hits the fan I will be in Texas because f~~~ everyone that thinks you need to be a mother to raise a son.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

In this case …. get that Texas plan on standby ASAP.

You don’t know what those slimy bastards will do. Have a case packed, minimise your life and buy 2 first class open tickets. They cost a fortune but this is of little concern considering the benefit for you both.

As an aside, this is what birth certificates are for. Unwittingly it’s a legal document tricking the parents in to giving their children to the state.

They have more rights to your child than you do. They can literally kick the door in and take what’s theirs.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

frank wrote:

I also told them they could burn.

frank wrote:

because f~~~ everyone that thinks you need to be a mother to raise a son.

THAT’s the spirit! Now you’re talking.

ILiveAgain wrote:

In this case …. get that Texas plan on standby ASAP.

I was gonna say get the hell out and MOVE if you have to. But it looks like our friend Frank is on top of it. Good job.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Good luck, Frank. Hope it works out.

It’s very gynocentric sustem here, so it’s no surprise they’ll try to thrown crap at you.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[RoyDalParticipant]

frank wrote:

But I’m also looking into taking child services and the Norwegian government to court over the treatment I’ve been getting for the past 12 months

My lawyer pals recommend against going to court if you can possibly avoid it. Instead, go to America with your son and get out of their reach. The best revenge is living well. Get your son and yourself into a locale where you can foster his growth.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[frankParticipant 31]

RoyDal wrote:

My lawyer pals recommend against going to court if you can possibly avoid it. Instead, go to America with your son and get out of their reach. The best revenge is living well. Get your son and yourself into a locale where you can foster his growth.

I know that running would be the best thing to do when it comes to the situation I’m in, but it’s not just about me. If men run every time child services comes a knocking then we will soon find ourselves as hostages in our own country. We need to stand up and tell them that we wont stand for the s~~~ anymore. We need to show them that we will fight back, that we wont go quietly into the night.

I can’t run before the fight has started, I need to fight, I need to see them bleed.
They can’t f~~~ with me and my son and think I will bend over and take it like a bitch.

[HitmanParticipant]

you have strength ,and B~~~~ brother-man !i am so proud of you because you are STANDING UP to the system ,keep your strategy going and have ” plan – B ” ready just in case ..those tickets( i live again ) sound like a great idea..WHEN you WIN , you can use them for a vacation with your son ! the absolute BEST of luck to you !

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

If possible talk to other men who have children in the class if they exists. Get together and complain about the teacher, maybe you can get the bitch fired. If that works the rest of the teaches probably won’t mess with you.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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