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Who says men can’t multi-task?
http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/chess-champ-takes-on-20-women-in-auckland-2016011318
He’s been called a “sexist buffoon” and “ignorant” by those in the chess community.
English grandmaster Nigel Short took on 20 women in Auckland’s Aotea Square, for the New Zealand Chess Championships to test his theory that men are hardwired to be better at chess than women.
He won. All 20 games.
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Anonymous29I do not think he was multi-tasking, just mind f~~~ing them on a chess board.
Has anyone ever heard of female chess Grand Masters ? . . . . no ?
No wonder, they cant play for s~~~.You still have to keep 20 different strategies and plans. So its not just a simple 3 move plan for each board..
I have beaten every woman that has crossed my path in everything except child birth.
This bollocks that men can’t multitask … is … well .. bollocks.
I can do anything a woman can… better … faster .. and even improve on it.
A woman can’t do everything a man can.
20 women? I bet he could do 40 …. while tugging one off at the same time.
Guy owns all those women at chess, and yet there is somehow still a debate because women ignore reality and are so delusional it’s worrying. He f~~~ed them all up, and women cry. That’s right bitches, s~~~ your mouth.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
Reality
the biggest sexist out there.So, in order to not be sexist he’d have had to lose intentionally on all 20 games? 10 games for neutrality? Why didn’t they throw in a few trans folk, or otherkin? Just for balance.
The guy’s a f~~~ing chess master, of course he’s going to beat whatever gets thrown at him. Put him up against another chess master if you want to even have a chance of presenting a challenge to him.
Ummmn… anyone else reading this?
Among his opponents was former Bachelor contestant Natasha Fairley.
“I’m more in my element here than in a house with 20 girls,” she says. “Competing against people who eat healthily and exercised was not my cup of tea.“
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The reaction of the 20 women he rekt
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
I call B.S. on the idea that this was testing any kind of theory. The term for this kind of event is “simultaneous exhibition”, and grandmasters do them all the time. Most of the time they win every game, or maybe draw a couple, regardless of the genders of the opponents.
If Short wants evidence that men are better chess players than women, he could just pull out the FIDE (World Chess Federation) rankings of the world’s top players. Of the top 100 rated players in the world, only one (Yifan Hou of China) is a woman. She’s ranked #68.
Of course, this also has something to do with the fact that a lot fewer women than men start playing competitive chess in the first place. Men would probably still dominate even if just as many women played, but we’ll never know for sure.
I love chess, A LOT. So hopefully you guys will find my contribution to the topic useful.
First of all, Nigel Short is not a chess champion. He competed against Kasparov for the title back in the 90s in the classical format. Kasparov trashed Short back in the day. He stood no chance to ever beat Kasparov during his prime, especially after big K was coming from beating Karpov a few years ago (arguably the greatest chess player in the history of the game along with Kasparov).
You can replay Kasparov vs Short here if you are interested
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=55309
Now, in regards to women in chess, heh… I have had this discussion with feminists before and they just can’t seem to grasp it. Chess is a logical game. It’s purely based on logic and exchanging pieces, or taking pieces, or giving up pieces in a way that will benefit you. It’s very mathematical in that regard, but more than mathematical is pure, sheer logic what defines the game. But you guys already know that. In the history of the game only one woman has been able to compete with men and win important games against the greatest men in the game. Her name is Judit Polgar. She’s a Hungarian chess player who recently retired and, believe it or not, one of the sharpest, fiercest, most creative minds in the history of chess. You can see some of her magnificent games here:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=12190
Now, does this mean that women are good at chess? Or can be as good as men? YES AND NO.
You see, at some point in her career Polgar was crushing men left and right in elite tournaments. Aside from Judit only Hou Yifan (her successor) gets invited to play with the big boys in elite competitions. And what distinguishes these women from the rest of them? Two things that many women lack because they are not used to fight for anything: tenacity and perseverance.
Judit Polgar herself has made the argument that women are perfectly capable of competing with men at the highest levels. However, she clarified, women don’t have the same drive as men to achieve success in very demanding and competitive sports, whether they are physical or mental sports.
Also, Short has a history of dropping red pills in the media when it comes to judging women’s performances in the game.
I know you guys will enjoy this!
And this Short’s take on the issue:
http://en.chessbase.com/post/vive-la-diffrence-the-full-story
(I know you will enjoy it! Trust me!)
If you google more on the topic you will find more information.
Basically, women *could* be as good as men in chess, if they dedicated all the hours, effort, and practice that men put into improving their chess skills, as Polgar herself has said so before.
Women as we know rarely if ever like to do that, as they are used to be given almost anything they desire.
Also, FYI, Polgar’s peak in chess came when she had a miscarriage and took all her energy and dedication into the game. She played fearless, devastating, and creative chess when that happened (info here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/i-never-wanted-mens-pity-chess-child-prodigy-judit-polgar-on-the-games-inherent-sexism-8340951.html ). She was so good at some point that went almost undefeated in one of the most prestigious chess tournaments in the world Wijk An Zee, and I quote
But it’s very clear that Judit still craved something from her male rivals: respect. And she felt she got it after that remarkable result in the annual Wijk-an-Zee tournament of January 2003, when she was beaten to first place only by Vishy Anand, and finished undefeated ahead of such giants of the game as the reigning world champion Vladimir Kramnik and the former champion Anatoly Karpov (whom she wiped off the board in characteristically ferocious attacking style using her favourite Queen’s Indian Defence).
“After that tournament Anand said, ‘She is one of us’. Finally! Finally I got there!” Judit’s dark eyes still light up at the memory; but I dared to suggest to her that the Indian might have been saying not that she was a fellow genius, but that she was an honorary man. “Ha! Well, it’s true that my old trainer [the Russian Grandmaster Lev Psakhis] would tell people, ‘She’s a man. She only looks like a woman’. And when I first started going out with Gusztav he would say, ‘My God, you are looking at things with a man’s brain’. Well, that’s how I live. People say I’m tough and harsh. But the truth is that it’s just not acceptable for a woman to be self-confident.”
So, as you can see… there’s a lot of history behind Short’s remarks, and most of it is incredibly interesting and thought provoking, although not really new to us MGTOWs and realists.
I will always, however, admire Polgar as she is one of my favorite players along with many of the greatest chess players in the history of the game.
But yeah, women suck at it cause they don’t want to work hard to excel at it.
Easy as that.
I call B.S. on the idea that this was testing any kind of theory. The term for this kind of event is “simultaneous exhibition”, and grandmasters do them all the time. Most of the time they win every game, or maybe draw a couple, regardless of the genders of the opponents.
If Short wants evidence that men are better chess players than women, he could just pull out the FIDE (World Chess Federation) rankings of the world’s top players. Of the top 100 rated players in the world, only one (Yifan Hou of China) is a woman. She’s ranked #68.
Of course, this also has something to do with the fact that a lot fewer women than men start playing competitive chess in the first place. Men would probably still dominate even if just as many women played, but we’ll never know for sure.
Men are better at chess by biological design. Women can get there, but as I said before, they don’t have what it takes to become elite within the chess world.
It will always be a male dominated sport IMHO, with a couple of exceptions here and there down the road like in Polgar’s and Yifan’s cases.
The reaction of the 20 women he rekt
<iframe width=”500″ height=”281″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/nn5QpgZc2uI?start=24&feature=oembed” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>lol watching that has brightened up my morning!
It will always be a male dominated sport IMHO, with a couple of exceptions here and there down the road like in Polgar’s and Yifan’s cases.
Until they decide it’s “sexist” because it doesn’t serve them and have it outlawed. You know they would.
It will always be a male dominated sport IMHO, with a couple of exceptions here and there down the road like in Polgar’s and Yifan’s cases.
Until they decide it’s “sexist” because it doesn’t serve them and have it outlawed. You know they would.
My prediction is that women will never become world chess champions at the highest level (read: playing against other men) under fair and natural circumstances/conditions.
That’s why FIDE did the smart thing and gave them their own tournaments/championships where only females play.
Only players like Polgar and Yifan get invited to play with men because they are that good and have proven it so several times.
Also consider that chess is not that popular in the United States and most of the strongest tournaments are played in Eastern/Western Europe. The other thing is that if, say, a feminist managed to become director of FIDE and do stupid s~~~, players could always desert and create their own federation, boycott events, etc… for male chess players, chess is not only about playing a game they love, it is about crushing their opponents and imposing/proving their intellectual/mental superiority. That’s literally the essence of the game. Women have no place in chess at that level so I wouldn’t worry about it that much.
However, there’s always the possibility… I wouldn’t put it past ’em t~~~s.
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