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With a 50% chance of divorce, men can get screwed for life with paying alimony, which can take them to the poorhouse. Men often see the statistics and simply shun the idea of ever getting married.
That gives it all away.
Makes the reader see what the real problem is and that THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE before anything else might even have the chance to change back to where it was.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I don’t care if women become perfect and the entire system shifts to men’s favour.
Still got zero interest, and I’m not the Lone Ranger there. Enjoy your cats ladies.

Anonymous3I don’t care if women become perfect and the entire system shifts to men’s favour.
Still got zero interest, and I’m not the Lone Ranger there. Enjoy your cats ladies.
Yeah, it seems like it’s mostly younger men and only women commenting and talking about this.
But as a man, once you hit your mid-30s, you’re pretty much done. There’s not much any woman can do to get you interested in her. Society had always used marriage to trap men while they were young and actually vulnerable. Women mistook that for some sort of benefit for men, and began to insist marriage was terrible and young women were being forced into it. The reality always was that young men were being pushed into it and fooled into it. It’s typical of women to lie and then believe their own lies.
So now they insist girls can never get married and women must instead become old, fat, and used up. Only then do they want marriage, and they think they can force older men into it. It doesn’t work that way. It’s just not going to work.
Even if these older men can be pushed into it, then what? Most men would flat out refuse to touch their wives or have anything to do with them. While women enjoy denying sex when men want it, there is nothing that destroys women more than men refusing to have sex with them, having zero interest, and even outright denying women sex. The women would of course seek sex outside of marriage, but openly committing adultery and that being upheld by the State will only convince less men to deal with marriage, so it would only again work short term in this hypothetical.
There is no other way for this to turn out than legions of unmarried women in their 30s+. This is the natural result of feminism and affirmative action/empowerment. It is unnatural, and nature can not be bargained with or shamed. Men may never hate women, but men will simply refuse to have anything to do with them.
So in summation: Women should make men work for sex and not give it out until marriage, be manipulative, still rely on a horribly biased court system, and put on a complete act just to lure a man into a marriage that she has more interest in than he does. She never really answers the questions as to what’s in it for a man. Just pretend that there is some benefit.
Just another self refuting article endorsing MGTOW as far as I can see that tells women to be fake and want everything that was traditionally afforded women while keeping all of the stuff that the women’s lib stuff has fought for.
Thanks to you for that comment and thanks to the OP for posting this article.
It describes 2 of my girlfriends in deep detail.
They pretended to be a positive thing in my life until I gave them the security of having me “locked in love” and then they showed their inner full blown c~~~, getting worse day by day.
This is a very important message to get out to younger brothers and “engaged” men that have not yet made the mistake of signing that detrimental and fraudulent contract called marriage.
Every NAWALT or “unicorn” is a MIRAGE!
I simply obeyed a German saying:
“If you want to get to know a person, give him power”.
And I gave my c~~~s “virtual power” over me to see what they will be like when they “feel at home”…
Today’s women are like that. That’s why so many blue pillers are still blue pillers.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
The problem with this article it just circled around the main reason why men do not want to get married. It has to do with the laws involving the court system and government.
The then said with women not cooking and women should withhold having sex?
They just don’t get it.
Ladies, it really hurts that it’s come down to the fact your sexuality is worth squat today.
I can only speak for myself but really I don’t like having sex with women now. I know what they are about and it’s a huge turn off. I can get my needs meet with sex toys and porn and not have to deal with the bulls~~~ women come with. I still find them attractive on the TV screen but in reality women don’t do a thing for me when I see them live. I see them as A-sexual. Ladies it’s your own fault by complaining stating that men only think about sex and don’t see you as equals. We got turned off with your mixed messages and just said screw this. Women complain if a man looks at them. Then they complain when a guy they like doesn’t look at them. It’s this kind of hypocrisy that drove us away.
Any guy will tell you women are the most impossible to deal with and if you marry them it’s 10 times worse.
I’ve never been married but I’ve learned watching family and friends.
The truth is this is unfixable and MGTOW men realize this. the only hopes is if an asteroid hits the earth and destroys the human race and then it starts all over again. Or if Skynet becomes self-aware.
You are never going to convince me or any mgtow/red pill guy that NAWALT complex. We heard it over and over and as Elvis and the heartbreak kid Shawn Michaels did we left the building.
Nothing will ever make me want to marry. Women are a depreciating asset; only useful for the hole between their legs. Once you conquer your sexual and reproductive urge you have no reason to engage long term with women. If I was given the knowledge I have now in the 1800s I would be MGTOW for life. I am the mould of man that saw through the con and decided to dedicate my life to myself.
My time is expensive and my freedom is invaluable. I would have to be paid huge amounts of money to even talk to a woman romantically. Whenever I talk to someone I think to myself, how much money could I be making in the markets instead of doing this, then I assess whether what they are doing is meeting that level of value.
The only women I have time for are my sisters, the only men I have time for are my fellow traders and MGTOW brothers.
But as a man, once you hit your mid-30s, you’re pretty much done.
That’s what my “girlfriends” also told me. They expected a loner that would open all wallets and give her everything she wants and is satisfied with “every once in a while”…
Woman dry up more than they want us to believe. You lay next to them with a dick and endurance of a porn star and all they want is a provider. And then they think that a lousy handjob will make you comply. I made her work till she had muscle pain in her hands. That still did not impress her.
Sign on the dotted line – they call it commitment – and you get my pussy. Every “once in a while” so my price stays high…LOL.
Let her have the impotent chain smoking and compulsive drinker chad “thunder-LOL-c~~~…
If you see inside women, you start to get off more on making fun of them than to actually going to bed with them.
They use sex to control one man into “getting what they want” and then to have their fun with sex, they have Mr. Thunderc~~~.
What disgusted me the most about women was reading women magazines… (My mother had a beauty shop!)…
And there it was said over and over:
A woman needs 3 men:
– one reliable provider (we call it beta fool)
– one for the bed (we call it Chad Thunderc~~~)
– one for the soul (we call it emotional tampon)
So at age 13, I read this s~~~ and thought:
Become good at all 3 points and then this will increase your chances…
And so I did. I can do all 3 quite well…
How wrong I was…
All these 3 things are contraries!
The 1st man:
They make you a provider by controlling you with sex.
They get no enjoyment out of it because it would no longer be rare enough to control the “beta fool”. For women, this is a strategic decision to starve the “man with money” to get him to pay for her parasitic survival. That’s why they always starved me in spite of the having had biggest dick they ever had inside of them. Tall, blonde, blue eyes, 6 foot 3 height… What originally attracted them like flies was suddenly “starved”…
My misfortune:
I had the money and I was selected for “starvation”. No other explanation. No f~~~ing the hell out of her, making her cum and massaging her endlessly would get me out of that “purpose designation”.
You are chosen as “the proivider” then you get sex for pay. Period.No matter how good you are in bed!
The 2nd man:
Chad Thunderc~~~ gives her the opportunity to “live out” her sex drive without compromising her supply of money and materalistic resources.
If she would burden Mr. Thundercloud with demands, she would get poor sex. Nagging about his beat up car would get him to starve her. That’s why Mr. Thunderc~~~ can be poor and run down… All that doesn’t matter. She needs him only as her designated sex toy…The 3rd man:
Here is the orbiter that we also call “the friend zone”. The guy that gets to do the jobs Mr. Thunderc~~~ and Mr. Beta cannot do and gets to hear her emotional baggage.
Betraying 2 men and lying to both of them, always in fear of getting her ass kicked leaves baggage she cannot discuss with any of the two.
Neither can she talk to her hive friends about these matters. Her hive or one woman from her would grab one of her men and make him her own… And she would be BUSTED.So, a third man is needed as an emotional tampon.
I see through that s~~~ and I know why women always went away after getting to know me.
No c~~~ and orbiter carousel tolerated around me.
I wanted to get f~~~ed, f~~~ her back better than any chad…
…and I would open my wallet only if I liked to do that.No controlling me with sex…
She knew about my psychology education and hypnotic skills…
Disqualified. And proud.
Reading 1980’s women magazines gave me a head start on a successful MGTOW career.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

Anonymous2I have been saying for many years now that when MGTOW starts to put a stranglehold on marriage rates, women are going to try and fall back on traditionalism. The problem is, too many men have already woken up to reality. Not only do they realize what a s~~~ deal they are getting today, they also realize what a s~~~ deal they were getting under traditionalism. You think that you can preach tradcon values while keeping the current gynocentric system in place that financially and emotionally destroys men in divorces and rips them from their children, and men will just happily come back to the plantation? Good f~~~ing luck with that one, honey!
I AM NOT SIGNING A CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE THE STATE TO ASSUME OWNERSHIP OF MY ASSETS, MAKE ME EXPENDABLE FROM MY OWN HOME AND THE LIVES OF ANY CHILDREN I HAVE, AND RECEND A BIG PORTION OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WITH A SINGLE PHONE CALL.
BrainPilot-
This.
The sex issue is irrelevant.
The companionship issue is irrelevant.
The cooking/cleaning issue is irrelevant.You have the capacity to end my life with one phone call if I marry you or cohabitate with you. Not happening sweetie.
Not only that, but you talk and complain too much. I would rather enjoy peace and tranquility without you. Thanks.
Women are now weaponized. They all wanted it and still want it. Men should stay away.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Step back from the actual word so the article and look at its format. Men are shunning marriage. Here are 4 reasons men are shunning marriage. Now, here are 3 solutions.
Anyone want to guess to which of the problems she didn’t offer a solution? Yeah, being financially devastated in a divorce. I wonder why she had no solution to that problem?
Hmm…
I’ll hazard a guess. It’s because each of the problems hurts women except number 4.
1. Sex without commitment is becoming the norm. Hurts women by them being seen only as sex objects.
2. Women are less feminine than ever before. Hurts women by men seeing them as just a man in a dress.
3. Automation has eased wifely tasks so that men can do without help. Hurts women because men are less reliant on them.
4. With a 50% chance of divorce, men can get screwed for life with alimony. Hurts women by… ‘Crickets chirping’. It doesn’t hurt women and that’s why she gave no solution to it.
She could have said that women need to try to have equal physical custody and not almost always demand full physical custody. She could have said that women should stop viewing alimony as a lifetime winning lottery ticket, even after there was a fair division of assets. But no, she doesn’t say this. Why? Because the problem actually benefits women.
A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
This article reads like something out of Better Homes and Gardens from the 1950’s. Instead of suggesting that women “woman up” and stop expecting everything on a silver platter, it’s all about manipulation. And, stop having sex before marriage? How is she supposed to get pregnant to pressure him into marrying her if she does that? Whoever wrote this article has about a fifth grade education from an all girls Catholic school.
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

Anonymous0The bottom line of the article has been cut off, no worries I got it.
“Rest assured ladies, once you get him locked into marriage you can then go back to being a c~~~!”
The reason this s~~~ won’t work is that the last three generations of girls have been told that they are entitled princesses who can live without reason or accountability while being an aggressive c~~~ that’s still protected by the cloak of victimhood. All this and she is told she is still getting a bum deal. Good luck telling them to ‘lady up’.
Still as many a brother has said too little too late. Too many men giving too few f~~~s
That article is wrong on so many levels.
First, the divorce rate and courts are reason number 1.
Second, plenty of men cook from scratch.
Third, all of her ideas on how to fix it are wrong. Withholding sex won’t work. Pretending to be feminine won’t work. And learning how to make a sammich won’t work.Sorry, sweetie.
They are starting to realize there is a problem and still think they can bargain to stop the exodus that still skirts any of their bulls~~~ that men have to deal with. They are out of their f~~~ing mind.
“Women need to shun premarital sex”.
Are you f~~~ing kidding me? Yeah, riiiiiiiiight.
Oh god I hope they try it!
I won’t have sex till I get married.
Ok goodbye!It will even be even better and sweeter when you are financially secure, got a home and car UNDER YOUR NAME, and they are near debtors prison.
How about slim the f~~~ down. Women are flat out obese grossly obese and proud of it. But the surface issues notwithstanding this is a cultural and societal issue. They have the law of the courts and everyone on the side so even if they all look like supermodels and acted like sweet Unicorns, you still can’t marry them.
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
That article is wrong on so many levels.
First, the divorce rate and courts are reason number 1.
Second, plenty of men cook from scratch.
Third, all of her ideas on how to fix it are wrong. Withholding sex won’t work. Pretending to be feminine won’t work. And learning how to make a sammich won’t work.Sorry, sweetie.
They are starting to realize there is a problem and still think they can bargain to stop the exodus that still skirts any of their bulls~~~ that men have to deal with. They are out of their f~~~ing mind.
They’re not trying to bargain. They’re still trying to control. Read the article. Women are mental midgets. They try to control, and it fails, so rather than try another tactic, they double down on trying to control. It’s a zero sum game for them. But they’re too stupid to figure it out. No man worth his salt wants to be controlled. Only cucks. Only the ones smarter than the rest of the hive will figure out that they have to change their game.
Half of these women are like the football coach who insists on handing the ball to the running back and telling him “run up the middle” when the defense has been stuffing the run for the last 3 quarters. You can’t keep “running up the middle” when it hasn’t worked and you’re down 17pts. But that’s how these c~~~s think. And many of them will continue to do so even in the 11th hour. Same playbook, but will bang their head against the wall when the results aren’t there and wonder wtf happened.
They’re not trying to bargain. They’re still trying to control.
Oh I completely agree! What I mean to say that they want to give the illusion that they are bargaining. Being a tradcon fem isn’t bargaining, its baiting waiting for an idiot to bite.
Same playbook, but will bang their head against the wall when the results aren’t there and wonder wtf happened.
Women now know they’ve f~~~ed everything up however we will never see the day when they will openly admit it. Still it’ll be entertaining watching them all spin…
They still don’t get it. You can f~~~ like a whore, or guard it like a nun. Same with the way you dress. you can cook like a 5 star gourmet chef. You can agree with everything I ever say.
I AM NOT SIGNING A CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE THE STATE TO ASSUME OWNERSHIP OF MY ASSETS, MAKE ME EXPENDABLE FROM MY OWN HOME AND THE LIVES OF ANY CHILDREN I HAVE, AND RECEND A BIG PORTION OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WITH A SINGLE PHONE CALL.
How do I say this so they can finally understand it?
I’m not signing if you f~~~ me. And I’m not signing if you don’t f~~~ me.
I’m not signing if you feed me. And I’m not signing if you don’t feed me.
I’m not signing if you dress like a woman. And I’m not signing if you dress like a man.
I’m not signing if you agree with me. And I’m not signing if you disagree with me.The millennials won’t get this next part, but women my age probably will:
I am not signing with green eggs and ham…!
I will not marry you I said
I will not marry for some head
I will not marry on a plane
I will not marry, you are lame
I will not marry, that is that
So begone woman, take your catHahahahaha!!!! I almost spit out my coffee!!!
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
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