Canadian Propaganda

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

What our government has become is absolutely disgusting; i think the rest of the world needs to see how absolutely horrible Canada has become.

This is just a recent PSA that i’ve randomly ran into:

For the past 4-5 years, i’ve been running into 5-10 different PSA’ just like this one every year…

I do hope MGTOW grows big and strong before it becomes illegal to be a MGHOW.

I donno, i just see s~~~ like this and it makes me want to curl up into a little ball and hide in a corner.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

I don’t see anything wrong with this PSA. They type of behavior shown in that video is despicable and I don’t care if it interferes with someone trying to limit their interactions with women. If someone were to drug you or try to take advantage of you, you’d want someone to speak up and defend you right? Its about human decency not about gender.  The only problem I can see here is that its always the female portrayed as victim and the male as victimizer. I however don’t see this video as a shame tactic against men but a plea to anyone witnessing this kind of heinous act.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

LunaticReason wrote:

I don’t see anything wrong with this PSA.

Seriously?  You don’t have a problem with the Bad Guy always being HIM and the innocent victim always being HER?  This PSA all but comes out as saying that all violence and sexual harassment is male on female.

This is just more stupid HeForShe bulls~~~.

[Anonymous 42]

Here’s some propaganda that affects all of us, and it’s based on false and corrupted data: http://www.wmo.int/worldmetday/content/action

Feminism and hysteria has formed the new world around us. AHHHHHHHHH!

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

@sidecar: You’ll have to pardon LunaticReason for his shortsightedness. Going by his older posts on this website, he seems to be a (recovering?) white knight.

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

LiveFree wrote:

@sidecar: You’ll have to pardon LunaticReason for his shortsightedness.

I wasn’t blaming him so much as confused if he was watching the same video I just had.

Going by his older posts on this website, he seems to be a (recovering?) white knight.

I don’t worry too much about white knightery.  Either they eventually grow out of it, or it crushes them, because there is no up side to being a white knight.

Which brings me to a second thing that video is trying so desperately to imply.  Not only is is saying that women are always the victim and men are always the attackers, but also that it’s on the heads of other men to help those women.  It tries to shame men into white knightery by holding men solely responsible from both ends.

Now me, being an enlightened MGHOW, wouldn’t do a damn thing in any of those scenarios, especially not going to HR for anything.  F~~~ HR.  The way I see it, those are all Strong Independent Women who Don’t Need A Man who can all Man Up and deal with their own problems.  The video shows them all being grateful afterwards, but personal experience has shown the opposite to be the case.  There is no up side to white knighting.

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

@sidecar: I was actually in agreement with you in my post above. I was taking a dig at LunaticReason for not seeing anything wrong with the video. I’m aware of the ‘all men are rapists’, ‘teach men not to rape’, #LeanIn, #HeForShe and other crap that feminists are propagating through the media. I share the same views as you about feminist, mangina and white knight scum. I wouldn’t do anything either. I wouldn’t risk my personal safety over some irresponsible and ungrateful c~~~ that I don’t know. I wouldn’t want some guy coming after me after he makes bail or after he’s served his sentence. Women need to take personal responsibility for their own safety. A woman can go to HR herself if she’s being sexually harassed and they do (even when falsely accusing some guy.) She shouldn’t put herself in those situations in the first place like getting p~~~-drunk and passing out at parties or in public, sending out nudies, etc. They would never advise women in those PSAs because that would be wrong. Remember ‘Don’t teach women how not to get raped. Teach men not to rape?” Yeah, f~~~ that!

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

LiveFree wrote:

A woman can go to HR herself if she’s being sexually harassed and they do (even when falsely accusing some guy.)

Exactly.  It’s MORE likely for some woman to falsely accuse some poor guy of “staring at her chest” when all he was doing was staring off into space than any actual workplace sexual harassment.  In fact that entire PSA was just one feminist victim fantasy after another of s~~~ that doesn’t really happen in real life to women who were perfectly capable of doing something about it themselves.  The only possible exception was the roofie in the drink, but the problem with that scenario is that rohypnol has NEVER been detected in any instance of “rape” where it was suspected.  Ever.  It’s been used in robberies, but that PSA isn’t making out like that guy was going to steal her purse,  so that whole scenario was 100% made up whole cloth bulls~~~.

Things have gone so far with this female paranoia and feminist fear mongering hype that men not only aren’t engaging in things like sexual harassment in the workplace like this stupid PSA claims, but they are actively avoiding women to the extant that now women are also bitching: “Where are all the men at?”  The “Strong Independent Women” haven’t yet figured out (assuming they ever will) that their constant paranoia, false accusations, and cowardly bitching have driven away all the Good Men, or taught them not to care, so that only the real jerks are left.  And stupid shaming PSAs like this are not going to bring them back.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Sidecar I would let the strong independent woman take care of herself also..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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Harpomason:

 

The strong independent woman in that picture, of course, will scream “Sexual harasssment!” if you look at her anywhere below the level of her shoulders.  Of course, if you don’t, then there’s something “wrong” with you.

 

It’s a no-win situation.

 

[experiencedParticipant]

“Pencil test?”  Are you kidding me?  Been looking for a place to store my turbo, how about “car test.” But could the detailers remove the mold, fungus, etc?

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

@sidecar
I already said

“The only problem I can see here is that its always the female portrayed as victim and the male as victimizer.”

However from a moral standpoint seeing past gender. Asking people to speak up when someone is being victimized isn’t a bad thing imho.  Lets look at it this way if I saw a man being attacked or lets say its one of you I might step in or call the cops but you know to each their own.

Its just the method of in which they convey that message is wrong because of the gender bias it creates having men always the victimizer and that I can understand as a problem.

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

It’s funny. I’m from Toronto, Canada and I gotta say I’m not surprised. Canada is a matriarchal society. That’s why this country is so F-ed up. Also, you have the uncle tims who run office and they are male. Uncle Tims means someone in this case men who sells out their own gender. Laws regarding spousal support and child support are just crazy. I mean I believe only Quebec has friendlier spousal support laws. For me, more meaning for me going my own way!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

LunaticReason wrote:

I already said

“The only problem I can see here is that its always the female portrayed as victim and the male as victimizer.”

Then you’re missing the part where it tells you that the travails of those Strong Independent women, who are perfectly capable of handling these situations on their own, are somehow your responsibility.

This PSA tries to shame all men as victimizers, shame all men for not being white knights, and it uses a bunch of trumped up feminists victim fantasy scenarios to do it.

Everything about this PSA is wrong. Everything.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

Ok if you look at the video that way then sure but I try to avoid applying moral situations with gender. I do agree that there is a gender bias in the video though. Is this women responsible for herself? Yes.  Can a unconscious person act for themselves? no. Can they fend themselves against a group of people, no.  Thats where I draw a line. If she’s drunk but consciously goes with someone then I don’t care they chose to do so and suffer the consequences.  The guy with the lady getting a neck rub from her coworker/boss, she can deal with it on her own with HR.  Guy with camera don’t know what he did, cheat? don’t care. Pervert who took some picks of some girl dont care.

The video didn’t bother me as much because I don’t see the video as targeting me specifically and I don’t feel guilt for taking/not taking action.  Its like when Smokey the bear tells you “Only you can prevent force fires!” Doesn’t make me an arsonist and I don’t feel obligated to run out and fight fires.

[Anonymous 11]

They should at least have made a scene of a woman taking a freshly used condom and inserting its contents into herself and saying “Thanks for not saying anything” or just lying about being on birth control.

As if I’d tell my friend’s girlfriend that he cheats on her on occasion. That’d be smart really smart.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

LunaticReason wrote:

I try to avoid applying moral situations with gender.

But that commercial sure as hell has no problem with it. It clearly states that you, as a man, are responsible for the actions of all other men.

You are NOT your brother’s keeper. And you sure as hell aren’t your sister’s.

Can a unconscious person act for themselves? no. Can they fend themselves against a group of people, no.

If a woman CHOOSES to get blind stupid unconscious drunk, that’s her CHOICE. If she CHOOSES to do it in a group of untrustworthy people, that is also her CHOICE. She CHOSE to be there. She CHOSE to do that.
Where the f~~~ does this PSA get off telling men they are responsible for the consequences of women’s incredibly poor CHOICES?

Its like when Smokey the bear tells you “Only you can prevent force fires!” Doesn’t make me an arsonist and I don’t feel obligated to run out and fight fires.

But that’s exactly what this PSA is telling you to do. Unlike Smokey Bear, this PSA IS telling you to go out and fight fires. Smokey Bear basically tells you: “Don’t be an idiot,” but this PSA clearly tells you: “You have to clean up the s~~~ of other idiots because somehow it’s your fault. You are your sister’s keeper.”

F~~~ that. Women can be their own goddamn keepers.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

sidecar wrote:

But that commercial sure as hell has no problem with it. It clearly states that you, as a man, are responsible for the actions of all other men. You are NOT your brother’s keeper. And you sure as hell aren’t your sister’s.

Why assume that the people they are addressing are male? Watch the video again, it doesn’t specify the gender of the “bystander”. We automatically assume because societal pressures on males. From this video  I could easily say that women should step up and not just men.

sidecar wrote:

If a woman CHOOSES to get blind stupid unconscious drunk, that’s her CHOICE. If she CHOOSES to do it in a group of untrustworthy people, that is also her CHOICE. She CHOSE to be there. She CHOSE to do that. Where the f~~~ does this PSA get off telling men they are responsible for the consequences of women’s incredibly poor CHOICES?

I agree if she willing gets blind stupid drunk then its their own damn fault. If it was someone I knew I’d tell them get their drunk ass home or get whoever she was with, a friend to take her home beyond that not my responsibility.  If someone is being roofied than thats an entire different story.  What does this video tell me? that whoever “friend” she was with wasn’t a good one and most likely  a female friend.

sidecar wrote:

But that’s exactly what this PSA is telling you to do. Unlike Smokey Bear, this PSA IS telling you to go out and fight fires. Smokey Bear basically tells you: “Don’t be an idiot,” but this PSA clearly tells you: “You have to clean up the s~~~ of other idiots because somehow it’s your fault. You are your sister’s keeper.” F~~~ that. Women can be their own goddamn keepers.

Not certain of the specific law but I have a feeling that if a fire was happening near you that you’d have to take some action like call the fire department.  The same goes for any crime.  From a legal standpoint I could potentially see male bystanders being fined or criminally charged for not taking action. Something I disagree with but definitely could see happening.  Something idk like adding and abetting.

Anyways I’m not gonna act because they are female I don’t care thats not my motivation. I’m just the type of person if I see anything bad happening to anyone I’m gonna stop it.  I’ve chased down or scared off thieves and muggers plenty of times but not always without regard of my own safety and the person’s gender is the last thing on my mind.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

Anonymous wrote:

They should at least have made a scene of a woman taking a freshly used condom and inserting its contents into herself and saying “Thanks for not saying anything” or just lying about being on birth control. As if I’d tell my friend’s girlfriend that he cheats on her on occasion. That’d be smart really smart.

Yeah that would have made for a more balanced video.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

Btw I’m not putting anyone down for not taking action or how you feel about this video. This is just what I would do and feel. You are not obligated to anyone especially women. Thats the beauty of mgtow, Go your own way.  I do what I do for me and no one else.

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