Can the colapse of western society be halted?

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

Hi guys, do you think mgtow can serve as the catalyst to save society from its colapse?

If mgtow reaches 70% of males, like in japan the gynocentric goverment will be forced to listen to us.

Honestly i dont think that the colapse of western society will be good to anyone.

Last time society colapsed, after the fall of rome, it took 1000 years of war and anarchy until men, once again, rebuilt society.

In what ways do you think a mgtow can influence society?

Do you think we should form mgtow only clubs in the real world (yes i know they will be infiltrated by manginas, pua and woman in general) as a way mgtows can suport one another when the s~~~ hits the fan?

Lets face it, nobody wants to help a man and a mgtow even less.

If women can have women only clubs, why not men?

[Anonymous 42]

hellraider wrote:

Hi guys, do you think mgtow can serve as the catalyst to save society from its colapse?

No, we’re running from the collapse! They’ve been warned, yet they still go full steam, b~~~~ to the walls, and hellbent for destruction! It’s time to watch the fire, and NOT be in the fire!
Gentlemen, the fire is out of control… the only law and order I recognize is just don’t get burnt!

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Nope. The collapse can be halted but won’t, because people are idiots. We leave that dilemma and go our own way.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

hellraider wrote:

Hi guys, do you think mgtow can serve as the catalyst to save society from its colapse?

The better question, why would we want to stop this collapse?

This society, as it is now, is structured to harm us in every aspect of our lives.

And now society is collapsing on its own. We are going to be hurt either way. But, this way there chance of a better future for us, later on.

And since the collapse is NOT of our making, there is no guilt in it for us. We just watch fall down, while we maintain a clean conscience.

[ALPHA MALE!Participant 29]

…I’m with you on this one Brother, I could not have said it better myself!…let it burn cause that’s the way a fool likes it…crispy!!!

...I'm an Alpha Male, not a bitch!!!

[RennieParticipant]

Burn baby burn. Honestly the way western society is now, just sucks. Time for a reset.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Well, if you think that MGTOW is the solution, then I assume you think the collapse is all about the war on men. Personally, I think the collapse will be an economic collapse brought on by governments borrowing too much money and giving out too many handouts with that borrowed money. It’s easy to buy votes with borrowed money that you never plan on repaying.

That said, I don’t think MGTOW will ever be THAT big. Too many guys that like to get laid, and women will lower the price when they need to.

But that makes us contrarian, which I like. As Buffet would say, be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy. It’s a benefit to be contrarian. It gives you a vantage point that others don’t have.

As far as the war on men goes, I have no plans to help fix that. I didn’t start the war and didn’t ask to be in it. It was declared on me, I lost, and gave half my blood and treasure in the cease fire. I have no plans to get back in the fray.

The real problem will be when (if) women ever figure out that they overplayed their hand. Personally, I will NEVER trust them again. So even if they apologize, change the laws to make them fair, and promise to play nice, I won’t believe them. On a societal level, I have no idea what is going to change that. And for the younger guys, you watched your dad get f~~~ed over and removed from the house. You’ve seen it first hand. What could women ever do to make you unsee that?

When the economic collapse happens, and men stop spending money on women and save it for themselves, that’s when the fun will happen. Again, women make 40% of the money but are responsible for 80% of the spending. That’s a 50% pay cut girls, and 40% of the economy not moving. That’s what will get f~~~ing ugly from an economic standpoint.

But hey, YOU GO GIRLS!!!!

Order the good wine

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I’m still not convinced it will suddenly collapse as much as just gradually turn more and more to a festering pile of s~~~. Peoples’ resistance to change will likely keep anything big and sudden from happening. The gynocracy is not going to suddenly admit they were wrong for decades, and come up with some plan that will make everything ‘right’, no matter what happens. Any plan they came up with would be the minimum change required to get what they want. As with any huge social change, the ones who built the pile of s~~~ will have to die off before anything really changes. A sudden turn-around, even one that crumbled society rather than saved it, would require that the majority of people change their thinking over a very short time period. Ordinarily, generations have to die off before major corrections happen. It’s that unwillingness to change or compromise that would stave off a sudden collapse.
As to the MGTOW factor, I don’t see how it could change much in the short term, except to offer an escape to some wise enough to take it. A sudden turnaround would need something like a war to accelerate it. Something that can’t be ignored. MGTOW not only can be ignored, but actually asks for it. Feminists like to attack MGTOW as a proxy for the real problems because the alternative would be to place the blame on their own actions, but MGTOW is still a reaction, not a movement, and the reaction is a defensive posture, not an aggressive one.
Bottom line, if our society is choosing to destroy itself slowly and painfully over time, we are only getting what the collective society asked for and deserves. F~~~ it.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

hellraider wrote:

Hi guys, do you think mgtow can serve as the catalyst to save society from its colapse?

If mgtow reaches 70% of males, like in japan the gynocentric goverment will be forced to listen to us.

You misunderstand what is happening. The gynocentric state is only anaspect of the underlying problems facing a “western collapse”. Like complaining that a house of cards has too many queens in the stack and that the kings are all on the bottom supporting it.

You still have a house of cards.

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