Can a MGTOW be a daddy?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

The fact is gentlemen is that if you are going to have sex, then getting a girl pregnant isn’t an ‘if’ but a ‘when’.  If anyone reading this rides a motorcycle, most would agree that it isn’t if they have an accident but when they have an accident.

Okay.  I have three sons and often wonder what my life would be like had MGTOW been around over 20 years ago.  I love my boys but the truth is that if you could demonstrate to me with clarity just how miserable I would be, in all likelihood I would have never called my ex for a second date.

So there’s the conundrum.  Exchange past misery and fatherhood for happiness or never be a dad and be happier.

I’m putting this out there for the younger guys.  I know that a lot of our younger MGTOW brethren may come to believe that they have discovered an actual unicorn and get married and have kids, and then 20 years from now have the same internal discussion that I outlined in the second paragraph.

The answer is to take complete control of your reproductive capacity.

The first way is celibacy.  Now I want everyone to ask themselves.  “Would I expect a young man in his twenties to completely abstain from p***y?”  No.  That’s just mean.

Second.  Always use a condom.  They can fail.

Third.  Tie the unicorn down and shove birth control down her throat wrapped in cheese.  Illegal, and birth control isn’t 100% effective.

Fourth.  Get a vasectomy.  This is where I did some checking.  I live in Texas so prices may vary.

Vasectomy with all minimums including followups – $1,000.

Sperm storage for 10 years – Approximately $5,000 – Can be stored for over 20 years.

Total cost here so far is $6,000 for the first 10 years or $11,000 for 20 years.  Total cost for raising each child would be $250,000 each.

I checked with 4 fertility clinics in the central Texas region.  They have payment plans.  In other words you can make layaway payments.

Vasectomy Reversal – $7,500 – $8,500.  I may want a kid that bad.

Surrogates in the US – Upwards to $100,000.  I don’t want a kid that bad.

Surrogates overseas – Upwards to $50,000.  I still don’t want a kid that bad.

These are the options and the costs.  I would recommend banking your sperm against the possibility of having kids.  You control your reproduction.  If the unicorn asks why your are sterile, come up with your own lie or tell the truth.  It’s your option.

Knowledge is power gentlemen.  Power translates to happiness and success.

BTW.  Many doctors are reluctant to perform a vasectomy on a young man with no kids.  Either show him/her the invoice for the sperm bank or get a fake ID and lie that you already have three kids.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

ACCIDENT? I say this with a smile… there are no “accidents”.

Even a car “accident” is not an “accident”. Someone was texting and driving. Drinking and driving. Didn’t signal. Didn’t keep enough distance. Didn’t shoulder check. Got road rage. Didn’t pay attention. Didn’t look far enough ahead. A pregnancy is not a f~~~ing “accident”. It was 100% avoidable by the female. Especially in situations like this.

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That nameless MGTOW she banging in the garage of a hotel is a father and he doesn’t even know it.

Surrogates in the US – Upwards to $100,000.

That’s inaccurate. It’s about $40,000-$50,000. I have a personal friend who has TWO brothers that did this. Got it straight from him it cost $50K. Good solution. Still infinitely cheaper than a wife. But bring up kids in a country where JAYZ , Kardashian & Miley Cyrus are held up as examples of celebrity? No thanks.

Excellent advice to cover your 6.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

Surrogates in the US – Upwards to $100,000

Your assertion that half this cost is valid.  I looked at pricing on three different websites that listed additional costs should things not go as planned.  The top end of the scale for additional cost was an additional 50k.  I wanted to demonstrate a the possible worst case scenario and perhaps I was over zealous.

In so far as the biker analogy.  I agree with this also.  Usually its some dumb ass that runs the biker over.  It’s the biker that has the accident.  This is why I don’t ride any more.  But I do enjoy cruising in my 1972 Pontiac Le Mans convertible.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

This is why I don’t ride any more.  But I do enjoy cruising in my 1972 Pontiac Le Mans convertible.

Have been tempted to take up riding myself. But talk myself out of it on a daily basis. Not because I don’t want to , but because other drivers are insane.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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