But why do you not notice their signals?

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

OldBill wrote:

As Sidecar notes, it’s either a conscious decision or subconscious reflex to avoid the bait.

Pretty much.

If you miss the trap because you didn’t see the bait, you should feel relieved about missing the trap, not frustrated about missing the bait.

And once you see the trap for what it is, that’s all you ever see. The bait becomes irrelevant and unnoticeable.

It’s the poor stupid chumps who only see the bait, that get f~~~ed. They don’t notice the trap until it is far far too late.

[Anonymous 2]

narwhal wrote:

hey also don’t want to deal with rejection,

Bingo! Nowadays speaking to a woman without her explicit approval is “creepy” so I require her EXPLICIT approval first. They brought it on themselves. A woman that wants me has to risk rejection or she can go f~~~ herself. I’m DONE with their need to be chased.

[ZambaParticipant 54]

Interesting topic.

I think I notice cues rather well. However I believe it is, and has always been, my attitude that makes me not react to or go with them, except on extremely rare occasions. To me it is insulting (see, I have a sensitivity! Just like them… other people) to meet a woman who thinks I should work to deserve her or get her approval! How ******* up-side-down isn’t that!? In general I have work to do, something I need to focus on, or I’m tired from doing just that, taking responsibilities, performing duties, and now some woman thinks I have to work for her! I’ve already done enough! Now do your work and take your responsibility woman!

0 marriages + 0 children -> 4 life

[Anonymous 2]

I notice the signals. But I’ve also been conditioned not to act upon them. Now women will have to pursue me instead of the other way around, because they need to convince me it’s ok to actually be myself around them.

Most simply fail at that, so interactions with women almost never arrive at the “reading signals” stage.

Isn’t looking for signals (using your eyes) some sort of rape in the Feminist Land of Reversed Everything?

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Atton wrote:

I have never had the hard wiring to pickup on much in the way of anything socially speaking. Knowing what I know now it is a gift.

Same here.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

Dude… Morlock, you didn’t miss the signals. You simply froze from fear and didn’t DO anything. Your experience to that point had all been negative, you had no basis with which to know what to do in that situation.

The solution is kind of counter intuitive. In such situations always go against what you would normally do. Breaking out of your own problem fixation will enable you to free yourself from fear and doubt caused by bad experience.

In essence your problem isn’t your problem, your attitude about your problem is the problem.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Just catapulted you into the four digits, Smitty. Hope you don’t mind dude, he he.

Cool to see you back in here anyway. It’s been some while…

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[RedpillPrimateParticipant 1026]

OldBill wrote:

It’s a subconscious reflex more often in more experienced MGTOWs. They’ve been noting and avoiding the danger for much longer so it becomes reflexive.

This was my experience even at a very early age. I had a subconscious reflex in ignoring women’s interests in me. Even when the women showed obvious signs of wanting me to have sex with them, I just turned them the down.

That, and I always thought having a girlfriend was a complete waste of time.

[Anonymous 11]

I do notice too. I just ignore them and promptly leave.

It’s kind of like an Angler Fish wiggling its tongue to attract its next snack.

[Ash NrahkParticipant 199]

Jackinov wrote:

When I was younger, I noticed, but still found the idea of girl companionship a waste of time, except for the odd tomboy.

Tomboys mess with my head big time. I run into them all the time due to hobbies etc.

I wont lie I like the companionship with them. Are they still the same as the rest? The Wolf in sheep’s clothing ?

One in particular keeps sticking out yet I still hear the alarm bells ringing every single time I think of her.

I had no idea she liked me. She had to hit me over the head with it and still I didn’t sleep with her even tho I wanted to. I just cant be sure she is who she seems.

If there are worthwhile women out there they should be really f~~~ing p~~~ed with these feminists.

[MochaParticipant 90]

When I was younger I kept myself distant from girls because they were intoxicating to be around. I weighed the risk and the reward even then, and knew that if I knocked a girl up it would screw my life up.

When I was an adult, I tried to prepare myself to be a father. I established a career with a high paying salary. I built a life for myself. Then I looked at the options available for a wife. Beautiful attractive women were still intoxicating, but incredibly vapid. I studied the red pill and tried to understand PUA and game. I looked for certainty, and I found it in Hypergamy and Gynocentrism.

Why would I jeopardize my life and the health of my future offspring by letting one of these American c~~~s have my children? The laws in this country are f~~~ed. The women in this country are more f~~~ed.

So, MGTOW and f~~~ society.

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