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I think I KNOW how to respond to this, but the female shaming tactics seem very vague in her response… I need advice, should I go HARD? Or should I let it go? The link I am about to post is an article about an actress not getting a part because she was deemed “too old” and it progressed from there. The post you should look for is by Shannan McMillen Cason, and the person who “starts all the trouble” is by me, Markie Zucker. (not my real name of course but I thought it was suitable enough for a fake one if you can understand the connotation behind it.) Here is the link and please check it out and tell me if this womans final response (only final if I don’t reply) is worth the trouble.
If you can’t read it or are having trouble finding the thread I will take extra time out of my night to annotate. But, we’re MGTOW’s… We are smart and I doubt that should be an issue.
Sorry I don’t do facebook.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Alright, I’ll copy and paste the MOST relevant things said than so you can see it. Give me a few moments. @experienced
Anonymous24What’s a Facebook?
I read a dating advice book recently based on “research” where I was instructed to “look as good as possible” because “science has shown men are wired to want youth and beauty”. The dating sites I am on, I have seen that men my age are very typically looking for at least 10 years younger. Also, judging by the fact the majority of men who attempt to contact me on the site seem to be old enough to be my father, there seems to be an annoying yet pervasive truth here.
Yeah science has shown me women want “money and social status” what’s your point? It’s called biology.
Markie Zucker – I have a doctorate and make my own money. I do not need yours.
Shannan McMillen Cason did i say you did? I was stating an undeniable fact.
And then a whole bunch of words were flung between me and a bunch of feminazis and white knights and I eventually came about saying this…
Does the greedy and shallow nature not project through society? Why do divorce courts rape men for child support? Alimony? Why is a woman entitled to HALF my s~~~ if she didn’t earn it? Furthermore, if women claim to be so independent and strong why aren’t they enacting proper legislation to truly make the stakes equal? To label me a sexist is EASY to do, because it’s the safe space people hide behind when they are faced with the truth. There is no invisible boogeyman called the Patriarchy running around oppressing women. Why is it okay to have misandristic commercialism where women can kick men in the b~~~~ and its funny but if the roles were reversed it wouldn’t be? I see a trend in misandry every time I turn my head to the point where I cancelled my goddamn cable service. So if I call people out on their bulls~~~ and get flamed for it I really don’t care. But the simple fact is a lot of male issues are ignored and incase you haven’t read any of these threads they feel ENTITLED to treating anyone with a penis like garbage. I’m not a sexist I’m simply standing up for myself, another point I want to make. Male circumcision, is it OKAY to chop off a piece of us without our consent? Is it okay that we are solicited for the draft as soon as we become of age? It really sounds like to me that society has made men a disposable utility and I’m suppose to be all honkey dory about it all? If anyone needs a reality check in this thread it’s the people who think they have it so bad, not me.
-Men are 11 times more likely to die in the workplace
(maybe its because we take all the s~~~ jobs that women don’t want to do.)-Men contribute to 99.99 percent of combat casualties.
-Men are 5 times more likely to commit suicide.
(maybe its because most if not all social programs are geared toward women and their safety.)-Men only have a 15% chance of being awarded custody of children.
(regardless of a womans ability to take care of them.)-Men are 3 times more likely to be homeless than a woman.
(Social programs once again.)-Men get more than DOUBLE the prison sentence than a woman FOR THE SAME CRIME.
So once again, I ask you, who is sexist? Who makes up the majority of votership in westernized society? Don’t give me that garbage of how women are oppressed in todays westernized society. The only women oppressed anywhere are in the middle east and I don’t hear a SINGLE voice for them in defense from a westernized woman. Being a realist does not make me a sexist, I see the facts screaming at me like razor sharp shards of sound. I could do this allllll day Sarah.
If not biology than what? Do any of you even have any sort of degree in Biology and how it effects the societal algorithms that control us all on a micro and macro level? If so please speak up. Or would you all prefer I just say women are just plain f~~~ing EVIL? Would that be a better thing to say? Would it hurt all your “wittle feelwings” less? I’m sorry to break it to you people. But men have feelings too. We bleed when you cut us, and today’s modernism seems to want to take us down 1000 cuts by death.
*blows smoke from guns* that’s just the tip of the iceberg people, you want more facts and knowledge? Try me. And to think this all started because a woman essentially said “where have all the good men gone?” in the starting thread. I’ll tell you where they’ve gone, AWAY FROM YOU. Don’t be upset when a man prefers a younger woman because you HIT THE WALL and are losing your good looks now. Maybe you shouldn’t have rejected all the beta males who wanted nothing more than a long, lasting, loving relationship with you when you were in your prime. Now look at you all… Lost on dating sites scrambling for a “good man” guess what? They’re successful and rich now and can have all the younger, prettier women that rejected them so callously in the past! Karma, ain’t it a bitch? *No pun intended*
And then she decided to respond with this.
That’s not actually what I said, Markie. I was simply lamenting our culture’s superficial (over)emphasis on physical appearance. I am well aware that our basic biology dictates male attraction toward female signs of fertility, including youth and waist-to-hip ratio. But I was not one of the “hot girls” who rejected all the nice guys “in my prime”… I was shy and quiet and not going to give my sexuality away quickly or easily, and thus often overlooked. I married a man who had no money whatsoever … He was a decent person and is a good father to our daughter. We were together many years, it just didn’t work out in the end, and I am not here to bash him. I am on dating sites now because I am a busy professional and single mom and have long outgrown the club/bar scene. I have met many decent men out there, and believe there is one for me, who will appreciate my quietness and quirks and the fact that I come from a humble background where money and material things are truly not that important. I’m not “scrambling” at all.. Simply discerning and not apt to make the same mistake I made the first time around. I am older and wiser. I’m seeking authenticity, laughter, and depth, not money or looks. And although I was a late bloomer and no supermodel now, I don’t think I look too bad for almost 40. There is much I can bring to the table in the way of maturity and experience that younger girls (though prettier) cannot. *shrugs* Peace, brother, both sexes have experienced gender bias. A victim mentality is not attractive nor productive (on either side).
The end… For now…
@JoeBauers A place where you get your red pill rage out of course.
Anonymous24@JoeBauers A place where you get your red pill rage out of course.
lol yea I was kidding, I ditched it years ago. I prefer less pictures of which Starbucks people are at and more intelligent conversation… So I am here…
Seems like you are fighting the good fight. Here is a great current event evidence of double standards in society. Rubio’s comment about Trump’s small hands…Go ask the Facebookies what would have happened if it was Sanders, or Palin, if you wanted to make it a same sex offense, who said this about Hillary “Look at her ass, it is huge, her vagina must be the size of a 4 car garage…” or something along those lines… The world would have gone APES~~~! It would be in the news for YEARS! No no, DECADES! There is no way to argue that there are not double standards which almost always favor women… Instead we got protesters carrying signs that mock Trump based on this joke and it is ok…
Just tell her she hit the wall. Blame cosmo or whatever feminist propaganda for helping her make the decisions she did that misguided her.
That, or do what I do. I love just saying:
Hey, at least you have feminism and equality right? You don’t need no man remember?
The salt you can harvest is the most delicious.
How do you respond? You GET THE F~~~ OFF FACEBOOK. That’s how you “respond”, knucklehead.
Why are you ‘debating’ with these people? You’re never going to convince them of anything. You’re never going to get them to step outside their hugboxes. You’re wasting your time, time you can use in far better ways for far better things.
Get off Facebook. All you’re doing there is giving Zuckerberg more information to sell to Big Data, information that corporations and governments can use to control you.
Facebook is for children, women, and fools. You’re supposed to be none of those things. Reclaim your time, reclaim your sovereignty, and get off Facebook.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Anonymous3How do you respond? You GET THE F~~~ OFF FACEBOOK. That’s how you “respond”, knucklehead.
Why are you ‘debating’ with these people? You’re never going to convince them of anything. You’re never going to get them to step outside their hugboxes. You’re wasting your time, time you can use in far better ways for far better things.
Get off Facebook. All you’re doing there is giving Zuckerberg more information to sell to Big Data, information that corporations and governments can use to control you.
Facebook is for children, women, and fools. You’re supposed to be none of those things. Reclaim your time, reclaim your sovereignty, and get off Facebook.
It’s like rather than understand what MGTOW is, these kids come here thinking it’s some trendy club to hang out in and come up with ways to argue with women.
Er, no. MGTOW, it means we are smart enough to know it’s a waste of time arguing and society is a lost cause, so we just save ourselves. How is making yourself a very obvious target in any way going your own way?
Especially with the dwindling number of men that bother discussing this stuff. Even women noticed we are checking out, screaming “WHERE ARE ALL THE GOOD MEN???!!?!?!?!” because they’re left with mostly with mangina blue pill schmucks that just kiss their asses all the time. So if you still argue, pretty soon it’ll be like a piece of meat showing up in a pack of rabid dogs, the women will probably start hunting you down trying to get to you. Better to just not argue so they have no idea that you’re there. That’s called ghosting.
Anonymous24I am going to agree with OldBill on this one. I was on there in my late 30’s and about 98% of my old friends from High School were so far gone due to years of conditioning/blue pill swallowing that it was of no use in almost any arena. I left pretty fast. I would also agree that it is just an arm of the NSA now for sure.
@oldbill You think I don’t know that? You must have gotten over your red pill rage by now, me? I WANT to fight them. I have all this pent up energy and I’m not ready to go monk mode yet… I have a beef to pick with these types of people and if you don’t then cool, but lets take age into consideration. Let’s assume you’re older (even if you’re not.) don’t forget I have to put up with these c~~~s and assholes for the next 50 years at least. If I can make a dent in anyone’s psyche at all than I’ll at least “try” we younger men still have a fire burning within.
@phoenix I was looking forward to a response from you, I look up to you in this community. But as I had said to bill, IDK what to do with this FIRE inside of me. I’m already reading books, I’m already working out, I’m already trying to advance in my career. I just still feel so ANGRY I feel so much hatred for society and sometimes even women. Maybe I’m just still trying to swallow my red pill?
Edit: and in response to you saying “this is some cool kids club” if that were the case for me why would I have waited so long to finally join the community? This isn’t just some club for me it’s a way of life and I’m going my own way by being a loud alarm bell for my fellow brothers. I’m not a selfish MGTOW I want to try and help men my age steer clear of these pitfalls that await them. How many MGTOW do you hear in their 50’s say they wished they knew of MGTOW earlier? I want to be apart of that and help any way I can.
2nd edit: I also want to say that I’m not a “kid” I have experienced life somewhat. I have lost a child, a fiancee’, and dated/been broken by a number of women. I may not be a geezer like you. (if you are one.) but I certainly am not a youngster either. No need to be so condescending toward me, we all walk our paths in life.
[female] I was shy and quiet and not going to give my sexuality away quickly or easily,
Note how she treats her sexuality as something to withhold or “give away” as it suits her. She treats it as a commodity.
Sexuality is something you do, not something you give or exchange or sell. Only a whore would think otherwise.
AWALT.
@JoeBauers That is exactly what I’m trying to help with though, I want to rescue my fellow blue-pillers from the hell they are trying so hard to fall into. I want to awaken my brothers to this f~~~ing trap.
Edit: I said “fellow blue-pillers” as if I still was one… What I meant to say is my fellow brothers.
@sidecar a VERY astute observation brother, I didn’t even consider that sentence until you pointed it out to me.
Anonymous3@phoenix I was looking forward to a response from you, I look up to you in this community. But as I had said to bill, IDK what to do with this FIRE inside of me. I’m already reading books, I’m already working out, I’m already trying to advance in my career. I just still feel so ANGRY I feel so much hatred for society and sometimes even women. Maybe I’m just still trying to swallow my red pill?
Edit: and in response to you saying “this is some cool kids club” if that were the case for me why would I have waited so long to finally join the community? This isn’t just some club for me it’s a way of life and I’m going my own way by being a loud alarm bell for my fellow brothers. I’m not a selfish MGTOW I want to try and help men my age steer clear of these pitfalls that await them. How many MGTOW do you hear in their 50’s say they wished they knew of MGTOW earlier? I want to be apart of that and help any way I can.
2nd edit: I also want to say that I’m not a “kid” I have experienced life somewhat. I have lost a child, a fiancee’, and dated/been broken by a number of women. I may not be a geezer like you. (if you are one.) but I certainly am not a youngster either. No need to be so condescending toward me, we all walk our paths in life.
Haha I am certainly a geezer.
And with being a geezer comes wisdom.
You can not ever convince someone of anything. Don’t waste your time arguing. If they want to “wake up” they’ll do it on their own, it’s not like this site is hard to find. Yes many of us wish MGTOW had been around 10, 20, 30 years ago. But it wasn’t, we just mean for something like this to exist, instead of being out on an island essentially as we all were. But now all you really have to do is head here and you have many like minded individuals.
Take my advice. Let it go.
@Big Boss that is a good comeback, but I want to make her think about what she’s saying and make her SWEAT. On her FB profile it says she has a Doctorates in Psychology too, so I want to put forth an extra effort to destroy what was indoctrinated against her. As a last resort though I’ll say what you put lol.
How do you respond? You GET THE F~~~ OFF FACEBOOK. That’s how you “respond”, knucklehead.
Why are you ‘debating’ with these people? You’re never going to convince them of anything. You’re never going to get them to step outside their hugboxes. You’re wasting your time, time you can use in far better ways for far better things.
Get off Facebook. All you’re doing there is giving Zuckerberg more information to sell to Big Data, information that corporations and governments can use to control you.
Facebook is for children, women, and fools. You’re supposed to be none of those things. Reclaim your time, reclaim your sovereignty, and get off Facebook.
+110% agreed. I read through the entire post and To be honest, you were better off no even getting involved. Even one of them asked “how old are you?” Classic shaming tactic.
Trust me, I got off Facebook over 6 months ago and I don’t miss it one bit, the drama, the bulls~~~ and one-ups-manship…they can have it. I have better things to do.
Facebook is for women and gays.
It’s such a vagina, you could put a landing strip over it.Nuking hamsters can be fun, but trying to give a woman an education about “90% of men die in the workplace” or “arguing about the wage gap / patriarchy myths”…. is like playing tennis with a wall. One or two clever sentences is all you need.
“OMG!!! 28 year old Olivia Wilde is TOO OLD to play Leo’s wife????”
“Thats the wall for you. Every beautiful woman dies twice”.
.. and just let it fester in her mind for the rest of her life.
Then go about your day.That wall of text will NEVER work at getting through to a female. And it’s proven by her response. “I was saying that our society only cares about looks……”. Women are one deflection after another. She didn’t even hear you(!) and just went right back to what SHE was saying. But if she had two brain cells to rub together, she would be forced to admit “looks” are the only reason Olivia Wilde has employment as an “actress” at all.
You shouldn’t even SPEAK to 40 year old single moms.
“I am on dating sites now because ( here we go ) I am a busy professional and single mom and have long outgrown the club/bar scene. ( read c~~~ carousel and getting penetrated over the toilet with her hair in the water) Simply discerning ( Please. 40 year old single moms are not in a position to be “discerning” ) to make the same mistake I made the first time around. ( Lemme guess. Preferring to breed with jerk who treated you like s~~~ because it made your pussy wet? )
“I am older and wiser.”
“No. You are only older.”
“I’m seeking authenticity, laughter, and depth, not money or looks.”
“Because you couldn’t get a man with money if you tried. And handsome men with money or looks will want NOTHING to do with you. But at least you know it.”
” I don’t think I look too bad for almost 40.”
“You don’t think you kook too bad? A sandwich left on a table doesn’t look too bad after 3 days either, but you’re not going to f~~~ing eat it. “
“There is much I can bring to the table in the way of maturity and experience that younger girls (though prettier) cannot. *shrugs* “
*laughs*
A victim mentality is not attractive nor productive
And with that, this expired over the hill delusional facebook harpy sandy vagina thinks she “won”. You tell her Men contribute to 99.99 percent of combat casualties, and she tells herself you have a “victim mentality”.
The narcissist will twist and distort reality to infinity in order to place herself at the earth’s center. No amount of objectivity will ever be allowed to interfere with this. She does not care. There is only her. And her prison is a familiar, comfortable zone, padded with walls of velvety self-deception.
Facebook is a place that allows women like this to live out their remaining years in a perpetual state of self delusion. They can “like” each other’s fat pictures. There are no thumbs downs. They can “report abuse” when someone types something they don’t like. They even created an “ask me” relationship status for women only(!!!) so they don’t have to put “single” or “married”….. so she can reconnect with a former c~~~ she used to suck without her boyfriend or husband knowing.
For god’s sake and your own, get the f~~~ out of that cesspool.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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