…….Blue Pill Friends?

[ApexScorpionParticipant 602]

I have a friend that I’ve been cool with for about 10+ years. Let’s call him Jeff. I took the red pill a little over a year ago. It was hard for me to dismiss it as folly, considering my own personal suspicions. Before this happened, he introduced to the Black Phillip Show by Patrice O’Neal. This was one of the first pieces of red pill info I ever came across. I finished the entire series twice, I don’t think he ever finished it once.

When I discussed women, Jeff was my go-to guy that actually understood certain things. That was back then. Over the past year, I’ve learned so much about things like Gynocentrism, feminism, the hamster, AWALT, all of it. I surpassed him by 100 miles.

Every time I speak to Jeff about women now, he either brings up an ex that I’m “still mad at” according to him or says I “hate women” or both. At first, I thought he was joking but he’s said way too many times for my liking. The funny part is that I was saying some of the same things when I had a steady gf.

Recently, I went off on him because I’m tired of him sounding like a pussy when it comes to women. He either gets off topic, becomes dismissive, plays dumb, defends the same girls that do him wrong, or say something is wrong with me. I was right about the last 4-5 girls he’s talk to, and yet he doesn’t listen.

He doesn’t seem to have a clue about anything and his choices in women are f~~~ing horrible (Last time I talked to him, about a month ago, he was trying to figure out how to get some woman with 3 kids to pay attention to him). This guy basically was the person who introduced me to red pill concepts, and at the same time he doesn’t comprehend it or go further with any of it. I’ve pretty much told him that I don’t want to hear him vent to me about women anymore, which he does often. We haven’t spoken since.

How do you guys deal with blue pill friends once you’ve become red pill aware?

Thinking about dropping the subject and playing dumb with my social circle all together.

Eager to hear your thoughts on this.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

a lot of us have blue pill friends. i just hint at mgtow without mentioning it, and they’ll figure it out through observation or experience.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[dwh35Participant 54]

I have a friend who moved to another state about 5 years ago. At least once a year he would come back home to see his family and to drink a bottle of Johnnie Walker with me. I’d also try and visit him once a year.

Well, he is now married. He came home for xmas. The conversation went something like this over sms:
Me: Hey mate I’m thinking we can have a few drinks at my home bar and then head to the pub!

Him: Sorry mate can’t drink. Probably going to drive back home the day after. Me and *insert wifes name* will come over around 2pm for an hour or so..

So not only does he not wanna have a drink with me (liked we had planned for months), he had to bring along the new wife and also had an obvious scheduled amount of time he could visit. Not to mention he could of made the bitch drive back from my place to where he would stay for the night!?

I made sure I was drunk when he turned up and watched “red pill style” him sitting holding hands with his wife while she played with her f~~~en phone the whole time. I tried to chat to him like normal but you could tell he was censoring his language around the wife lol!

He left, I watched the Cricket and thought “f~~~ it, more scotch for me!”

[SandalsParticipant 4254]

ApexScorpion wrote:

This guy basically was the person who introduced me to red pill concepts, and at the same time he doesn’t comprehend it or go further with any of it.

My brother introduced me to economics: supply and demand, free markets, etc… and now he’s a flaming liberal.

That’s the way it goes. Sucks. Once you increase your level of awareness, you can’t hang out with old folks. Find new ones. No other choice.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I have a few blue pill friends. I have a few NPR liberal friends. I simply avoid arguing with them over things that they will not change their minds about.

Like the wise man said, never talk politics or religion!

Well, every now and then I pull their chains just to see them get exercised, but I make sure I’m dealing them facts when I do so. It doesn’t change their minds one whit, but it does give an inner glow of smug self-satisfaction.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Jim01Participant 6678]

dwh35 wrote:

I have a friend who moved to another state about 5 years ago. At least once a year he would come back home to see his family and to drink a bottle of Johnnie Walker with me. I’d also try and visit him once a year.

Well, he is now married. He came home for xmas. The conversation went something like this over sms:
Me: Hey mate I’m thinking we can have a few drinks at my home bar and then head to the pub!

Him: Sorry mate can’t drink. Probably going to drive back home the day after. Me and *insert wifes name* will come over around 2pm for an hour or so..

So not only does he not wanna have a drink with me (liked we had planned for months), he had to bring along the new wife and also had an obvious scheduled amount of time he could visit. Not to mention he could of made the bitch drive back from my place to where he would stay for the night!?

I made sure I was drunk when he turned up and watched “red pill style” him sitting holding hands with his wife while she played with her f~~~en phone the whole time. I tried to chat to him like normal but you could tell he was censoring his language around the wife lol!

He left, I watched the Cricket and thought “f~~~ it, more scotch for me!”

that is his wife keeping an eye on him and getting jealous of anyone else paying him any sort of attention so she goes everywhere with him (even though she sits on her phone) – plus she won’t want you being his friend so she interferes in the time you spend together

happens with my brother and his scumbag wife all the time (had a friend I ditched because of this sort of behaviour too)

[PraetorianParticipant 139]

Your situation truly does suck. Most of the people I know seem to be blue pill as hell and increasingly drinking the liberal Kool-Aid. Really all that you can do to maintain your sanity, if you are going to keep hanging around with him, is to either avoid the topic or just hint at it without it becoming a full blown argument. I generally avoid these sorts of issues due to a combination of realizing that they don’t want to be convinced and not wanting to be in a 10 vs. 1 argument when I am with a group of friends. The best thing to do is take care of yourself and turn on the no-f~~~s-given switch (which is difficult when you actually care about someone, but necessary to maintain personal sanity). Of course, this is just my opinion, I could be wrong 🙂

[ApexScorpionParticipant 602]

Praetorian wrote:

Your situation truly does suck. Most of the people I know seem to be blue pill as hell and increasingly drinking the liberal Kool-Aid. Really all that you can do to maintain your sanity, if you are going to keep hanging around with him, is to either avoid the topic or just hint at it without it becoming a full blown argument. I generally avoid these sorts of issues due to a combination of realizing that they don’t want to be convinced and not wanting to be in a 10 vs. 1 argument when I am with a group of friends. The best thing to do is take care of yourself and turn on the no-f~~~s-given switch (which is difficult when you actually care about someone, but necessary to maintain personal sanity). Of course, this is just my opinion, I could be wrong

I’ll try this more in general. I don’t think it would change if I got a new set of friends. I would still have the same problem. I have to learn how to just leave him alone when it comes to this. The resistance he’s showing is unnecessary and it confuses me because I mean absolutely no harm, and yet he finds every way to shut me out. The real problem is that me wants to listen to his s~~~ty stories for hours and the length that he goes to shoot ad hominems at me is crazy. It makes him seem like a pussy to me instead of dealing with his own issues.

[PraetorianParticipant 139]

I’ll try this more in general. I don’t think it would change if I got a new set of friends. I would still have the same problem. I have to learn how to just leave him alone when it comes to this. The resistance he’s showing is unnecessary and it confuses me because I mean absolutely no harm, and yet he finds every way to shut me out. The real problem is that me wants to listen to his s~~~ty stories for hours and the length that he goes to shoot ad hominems at me is crazy. It makes him seem like a pussy to me instead of dealing with his own issues.

Another thing to consider if you are truly keen on trying to move him over to your thinking, try reviewing some Dale Carnegie methods on how to win friends and influence people. Methods such as “Never criticize, condemn, or complain” and making sure to show genuine interest and listening to their stories. I am not saying that you are not doing this, but these basic things need to be considered in your approach to dealing with your friend if you wish to move him over to your thinking. Also, realize that blue pill thinking and societal norms are deeply ingrained in even the best of us (of which I am certainly not). Even someone receptive to the message will probably be resistant to going against the grain of society.

[ApexScorpionParticipant 602]

Praetorian wrote:

Also, realize that blue pill thinking and societal norms are deeply ingrained in even the best of us (of which I am certainly not). Even someone receptive to the message will probably be resistant to going against the grain of society.

I know this. It’s just that I need to stop forgetting this.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Just ghost everyone.

Monk

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

I’m pretty sure I don’t have a single red pill friend, which sucks because I can’t cut them all out of my life. I’m the kind of person who needs company, I hate going anywhere by myself. Maybe once I’m older that’ll change but for now I don’t like not having any friends. Unfortunately as I mentioned that means I have to deal with them fawning over chicks and discussing how they got laid and wishing they had girlfriends or watching them with their girlfriends and so on.. Hell, even last night I had to listen to one of them talk about how hot the chick he recently “lost his virginity” to and “caught feelings” for. He showed me her pic and all I could think was “Is he actually serious? F~~~, wouldn’t be caught dead with her..” I guess different opinions but even if I were blue pill I still wouldn’t find her all that attractive. Side note, any takers on how long it will be before she either f~~~s him over or accuses him of rape?

Anyway, to get back on topic, for now, given how I am I’ll just have to limit my time with the really bad ones and hope at least a few of them will see the light before it’s too late. It legit annoys me that they can’t see this s~~~ for what it is right in front of their faces, but I guess I would have been the same had I never found this site. I just wish they would understand I’m only telling them these things because I don’t want their lives ruined.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

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