BLUE PILL AND COUNSELING

[nick123Participant 137]

I have a friend who is married to a fat obese woman with a child from a previous marriage. She is a counsellor. I was talking to him today and this came up.. he believes that regular counselling with his wife is a good idea. His reasoning is “there are always things that come up, things that cant be resolved, things that set off our triggers, things where the other cant see the others point” etc and etc.

I initially said to him a relationship should be easy. Two sane reasonable and rational adaults should not need regular counselling to solve day to day issues. That seemed to not register. I dropped it and just started to agree with the pathetic blue piller.

What do you guys think of this pathetic dribble?

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Counseling is a waste of time and money for any man. That’s for starters. Second – I can’t see how being shackled to a land whale can ever be made into a positive by any shrink.
Also – your friend married an obese single mother – why he did that may be the bigger problem.

[nick123Participant 137]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

Counseling is a waste of time and money for any man. That’s for starters. Second – I can’t see how being shackled to a land whale can ever be made into a positive by any shrink.
Also – your friend married an obese single mother – why he did that may be the bigger problem.

Spot on. Yes i believe he has low self esteem and a fear of being single/lonely although he would never admit it. Additionally over the years i have noticed he has become subdued in our interactions personally i think he is holding it all in until one day he blows up. In his previous marriage he was married to a bipolar woman and he never let on that there was any problem. Later after SHE left him he told me there were many problems. F~~~ing blue pill mentality they are so f~~~ing scared to be a man. Thing is his curent wife is a counsellor…..you would think they could reason and solve problems.

I should say here now that my ex gf was a counsellor but she turned out to be the biggest fruitloop ive ever met.

[Anonymous 42]

I need no counseling from a circle of fools!

S~~~can modern women and all the needs to keep them under control VANISH!

Modern women are like trying to drag an anchor through your life every step of the way!

F~~~ing idiot has adopted another man’s family and thinks things are workable? F~~~ me!

[Anonymous 43]

If anything it cements the need for divorce. It sounds good that you and yer wife went to counseling, but the reality is it is the last stop before the train goes off the cliff. If anything it gives her ammunition to rape you with in court.

[Anonymous 54]

Do you mean he gets his counciling from her? Is that mabey just a slight conflict of interests?. Hha Fool!

[nick123Participant 137]

I totally agree with you guys. Totally! Counseling is the last step to divorce and if you cant normally work things out with your wife then big red flag… should signal WTF is going on with her. But my mate is blue pill and always will be.thing is he will never leave her. He will swallow and put up with all her bs so he can be “married”… f~~~ that is pathetic.

[nick123Participant 137]

Anonymous wrote:

Do you mean he gets his counciling from her? Is that mabey just a slight conflict of interests?. Hha Fool!

No they get their counseling from another “professional counsellor”….although she is a professional counsellor

[Anonymous 54]

Someone did a post about marrage counciling. It is a buisness directed at women, for women. The whole premise being to correct YOU. You are the problem and must be corrected. Ive been through it. ITS A F~~~ING JOKE!!!!!!!

[Anonymous 54]

nick123 wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

Do you mean he gets his counciling from her? Is that mabey just a slight conflict of interests?. Hha Fool!

No they get their counseling from another “professional counsellor”….although she is a professional counsellor

Im gonna go out on a limb. Their conciler is a woman?

[Anonymous 43]

Old Sage…Correct as usual.

I was an idiot, I treated counseling like a date night. I was such a moron. we would talk about problems, then go out to dinner. It was the only time she came home and didn’t put in 6 more hours of work on the dam laptop.

[nick123Participant 137]

@ old sage…. the counsellor is a man apparently. Most likely a mangina.

[Anonymous 54]

nick123 wrote:

@ old sage…. the counsellor is a man apparently. Most likely a mangina.

Mabey he should come here for some counciling! Dr. heal thyself!

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

Old Sage…Correct as usual.

I was an idiot, I treated counseling like a date night. I was such a moron. we would talk about problems, then go out to dinner. It was the only time she came home and didn’t put in 6 more hours of work on the dam laptop.

I went with x#3. It was like I was invisable. Then with a girlfreind. I knew it was bs but went to keep the pussy comeing.I cant beleive the way I used to act.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

It's Time to get Wise

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

It’s ALL just more “talk”. Look to peoples behavior, and NOT their manipulative, self-serving words.

Lets see, his not so little “fat obese” cupcake has a f~~~ trophy and needs regular c~~~selling as well. He’s got a winner there !! Better him then you or me !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[BhutasParticipant 16]

My ex claims the marriage counselor(s) ruined our marriage. She was right. The counselor(s) helped me find my b~~~~, realize my interests were equally important, and we learned how to dialog (which I quickly learned was not how my ex wanted to communicate).

It took me a few years to come to the conclusion that the ex wasn’t going to own her own s~~~. Once that realization hit, I left. Fortunately, the judge saw through her crap too, and I got out with relatively little financial pain.

If you decide to give counseling a shot, make sure you are getting equal time. They should be teaching you tools to use to actually resolve issues on your own.

Ultimately though, cupcake is going to have to own her s~~~ and be willing to meet you half way.

There are good tools for free. If she’s not into exploring them, she’s not interested in meeting in the middle. Google Al Turtle. After many years of researching ways to make it work for both people, his stuff made the most sense to me.

At this point in my life, I’d only go the counseling route if I were already married. In hopes to avoid a painful divorce.

Post divorce peace is wonderful. Learn about it before marriage!!

[OgreParticipant 5863]

If a wife suggests counseling it’s usually to get corroboration and to try to “win”. If a man suggests it it’s usually to hold on to things as he remembers they used to be.

There’s no going back. If counseling is on the table then divorce or continuing a marriage that serves her more is what’s for dessert, now or later.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[nick123Participant 137]

Awakened wrote:

It’s ALL just more “talk”. Look to peoples behavior, and NOT their manipulative, self-serving words.

Lets see, his not so little “fat obese” cupcake has a f~~~ trophy and needs regular c~~~selling as well. He’s got a winner there !! Better him then you or me !!

What really frustrates me is that he actually goes along with it, he is so brainwashed by her bs that he goes along with it and defends it. he thinks well she is a counsellor too so must know what is right, so off he goes like a little puppy dog, makes me f~~~ing sick how some men are so pathetic these days. Thing is i can see he has changed over time and seems to be very anxious and stressed.
You know what guys, i’ve tried to help him, but i’ve learned enough from these type of forums to leave people like that alone to find out themselves in time, although in his case i don’t think he ever will…..blue piller for life.

[NeroParticipant 1466]

Seven months of counseling helped prove that my wife has serious emotional issues and was the real culprit to our marital problems. It helped me see clearly that I was never the problem. That helped me divorce her without regret.

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