Birthday Present Ideas?

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

DarkRyu wrote:

Oh, I agree. But I haven’t bought her anything in like 20 years and I want this gift to be special.

And why would that be? So you think a really REALLY expensive gift will make up for all your previous thoughtlessness? Only a rich guy’s mind works that way.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

PistolPete wrote:

DarkRyu wrote:

Oh, I agree. But I haven’t bought her anything in like 20 years and I want this gift to be special.

And why would that be? So you think a really REALLY expensive gift will make up for all your previous thoughtlessness? Only a rich guy’s mind works that way.

It’s not thoughtlessness. Both of us like things that the other doesn’t understand and can’t buy for the other, so we agreed a long time ago not to give gifts. I mean, we could give each other cash, but if we give each other $100 each, the only thing we did was swap paper.

I’m into electronics, which she doesn’t know enough about in order to buy, and she’s into antiques, which I don’t know anything about either. I can’t buy her an antique. I wouldn’t know what the f~~~ I was buying. So I’m looking for something more generic that pretty much every woman likes.

[Blood AxeParticipant 1179]

When it’s time to treat my mother, I usually buy her a few bottles of wine (raspberry or peach). I will also pick up some quality cheese to go with it. I might buy some nice ribeye beef steaks to cook up with a little bit of desert (cheese cake).

Older people usually already have everything they need. An afternoon of good wine, food, and company is always a winner.

Back off Barbie!

[Anonymous 12]

Good.
Keep thinking.
If she wears Fish tank Glasses, and this affects her independence, it is worth considering.
Obviously as a team effort with her – not as a suprise gone wrong.

And maybe there is a break-out…
How about you go to her with 5 Items/Subjects that you identify in her life, where you think she could have a better life experience…
Stuff that lasts more than 30 seconds of “aaaahhh” and “ooohhhh” over a Golden necklace.

If you do not know the answer, ask the person who has the answer.
She might have the answer.

Globally, i offer to approach the matter in a different way, more Teamwork and usefulness instead of the Boy showing up with a shiny item worn once a year… That is madness.
Leave the old stereotypes behind.
Put your budget where it helps the most.
Give her the tools she needs to live a good life.
You would do that for a buddy, right?

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

PistolPete wrote:

So you think a really REALLY expensive gift will make up for all your previous thoughtlessness? Only a rich guy’s mind works that way.

Your disdain for “rich guy’s” is disgraceful. You’ve only seen the “rich guy’s” on television, which aren’t indicative of reality. I’m not Donald Trump and I never will be, but $2,500 for a gift isn’t REALLY expensive. I’ve been around REAL “rich guy’s” and the s~~~ they blow money on is insane. It’s f~~~ing Macy’s for Christ sake. I mean, I wouldn’t want to spend $2,500 for a gift EVERY year, but it’s not an outlandish amount to spend on a gift – especially jewelry.

[Anonymous 43]

your budget is $2500?

How about set up a small college scholarship at a community college in her name.
Maybe $200 a year.

Make it an essay contest, and have her read the entries.

Don’t but f~~~ing jewelry. Lamest s~~~ ever.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

DarkRyu wrote:

Your disdain for “rich guy’s” is disgraceful.

Not as disgraceful as you flaunting yours on a website filled with men who have been impoverished by divorce rape. You demonstrate the very thoughtlessness I was discussing.

DarkRyu wrote:

$2,500 for a gift isn’t REALLY expensive.

I can remember when I had less than $500 to my name–maybe its nothing to you but again I think that illustrates a much more profound internal character issue that you might want to work on.

[Blood AxeParticipant 1179]

I’m not a fan of women’s lust for jewelry, but I find gemstones to be very interesting, because of geology.

If you do want to get her something involving Gemstones, like emeralds. I would avoid the stones produced in a lab (thier everywhere). I would get the real deal made by the Earth’s geology over millions of years. The real stones will be much more expensive though.

Back off Barbie!

[Anonymous 43]

hey dark Ryu,

I make do on about $22,000 a year. Of that, $6,000 goes to my ex, $10,000 goes to the landlord. Yes, you are fabulously wealthy by my standards.

Macys is a rich persons store. I splurge at JCP once every 5 years. The s~~~ I’m wearing now came from failmart.

I don’t want to pick a fight with you, just trying to give you some perspective here.

I don’t know what you do for a living, but you are going to convert $2500 of your time for something that is smaller than a golf ball.

If you went to a golf course and found a ball with a slice in it, then took a sharpie marker and made a goofy face on it, she would value the f~~~ed up golfball more than that shiny piece of s~~~.

[SolidParticipant 7520]

DarkRyu wrote:

been around REAL “rich guy’s” and the s~~~ they blow money on is insane.

There is always someone with more money than you, but one of the MGTOW most important values is the resilience, we endured the hell, we survived it.
Money is an asset, a tool, that brother @pistolpete is saying, is that you should use it wisely. I said the same, you may think that 2500$ isn’t much, but I know several men who regretted similar things that they did in the past, things like “if I had that money now, I would be so f~~~ed up”.

You have money, it is good, but be prepared, s~~~ can go from good to extremely bad in a few months. If your mother is a good mother, her first priority is to look after her offspring, and make sure that you are doing ok and WILL continue to do so. Your company can get out of market in no time, the economy of your country can be so f~~~ed up that your savings will worth 50% of what it should worth, everything can go wrong, show her that you are prepared for that, that you saved money, that you are spending it wisely, that even if your country turn into a socialist hell, you will be able to survive that, and I bet that nothing will bring more peace to her than it.

This is the point of what @pistolpete and I are saying, money is not love, what you are trying to give to her won’t change whatever happened that you are trying to overcompensate. Give her the peace of having the certain that your future won’t be f~~~ed in a blink of an eye, and she will have one less thing to worry about.

[Anonymous 43]

lol divorce rape…

$2500 would buy me 1 hour of lawyer office time, and 1 hour of court time, with 1 hour of the legal assistant filing papers, typing letters and preparing an invoice.

or 5 months child support. err I mean jail avoidance extortion

[Anonymous 43]

wait, I got it, hold on a sec

[Branched offParticipant 10956]

This is an unusual one. You have not given your mother a present since you were 7 and now you want to spend $2500!

If she is your mother you must know her hobbies and what she likes to do.
Ask her a few questions like if you had a few spare thousands what would you buy?

In the end I think many mothers are not going to be too worried about a price tag when it is a gift from a child of any age, they are going to want to feel loved and feel that you appreciate all they have done for you.

AWALT may work for women’s attitudes to gifts from lovers but not from their children, here time put in and thought and appropriateness do count. I think sometimes men just confuse what used to work for their mothers with their lovers and get a nasty surprise and then conclude that all women want is money. Unless she is very poor she will want to feel appreciated and cared for and maybe to remember something.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Anonymous 43]

ok its a little outside the budget, but this would be good

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/721482448/overview/

42,000 miles, what a cream puff!

Dang, now I want this

ok so now she can go do the things she wants to do and is not dependent up you for rides everywhere.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

PistolPete wrote:

DarkRyu wrote:

Your disdain for “rich guy’s” is disgraceful.

Not as disgraceful as you flaunting yours on a website filled with men who have been impoverished by divorce rape. You demonstrate the very thoughtlessness I was discussing.

DarkRyu wrote:

$2,500 for a gift isn’t REALLY expensive.

I can remember when I had less than $500 to my name–maybe its nothing to you but again I think that illustrates a much more profound internal character issue that you might want to work on.

It’s all relative man. To someone in a 3rd world country that can’t afford the $0.14 for a vaccine that would save their child’s life, the idea of some “rich” guy in American spending $5 on a Big Mac is mind boggling.

I’m sorry about what happened to you. Getting divorce raped sucks. But there are always people that are worse off than you, and there are always those that are richer than you. To me, $2,500 isn’t very much to spend on a one-off gift. But saying that I’m “rich” isn’t exactly accurate. I’m well-off, sure. But I wouldn’t classify myself as truly “rich” (not yet anyway).

Solid wrote:

DarkRyu wrote:

been around REAL “rich guy’s” and the s~~~ they blow money on is insane.

There is always someone with more money than you, but one of the MGTOW most important values is the resilience, we endured the hell, we survived it.
Money is an asset, a tool, that brother @pistolpete is saying, is that you should use it wisely. I said the same, you may think that 2500$ isn’t much, but I know several men who regretted similar things that they did in the past, things like “if I had that money now, I would be so f~~~ed up”.

You have money, it is good, but be prepared, s~~~ can go from good to extremely bad in a few months. If your mother is a good mother, her first priority is to look after her offspring, and make sure that you are doing ok and WILL continue to do so. Your company can get out of market in no time, the economy of your country can be so f~~~ed up that your savings will worth 50% of what it should worth, everything can go wrong, show her that you are prepared for that, that you saved money, that you are spending it wisely, that even if your country turn into a socialist hell, you will be able to survive that, and I bet that nothing will bring more peace to her than it.

This is the point of what @pistolpete and I are saying, money is not love, what you are trying to give to her won’t change whatever happened that you are trying to overcompensate. Give her the peace of having the certain that your future won’t be f~~~ed in a blink of an eye, and she will have one less thing to worry about.

Oh, I know this very well. I grew up poor and I know how quickly things can turn to s~~~. But that’s not what gift giving is about. Gifts are supposed to be something unique and special. I don’t think going out to eat qualifies (just because we already to that a couple times a week).

Anonymous wrote:

lol divorce rape…

$2500 would buy me 1 hour of lawyer office time, and 1 hour of court time, with 1 hour of the legal assistant filing papers, typing letters and preparing an invoice.

or 5 months child support. err I mean jail avoidance extortion

Tell me about it. I may not have ever been divorce raped, but I deal with lawyers all the time. They’re expensive motherf~~~ers. I thank God every day that I don’t have a kid, otherwise I never would have been able to get to where I am today financially.

Anonymous wrote:

ok its a little outside the budget, but this would be good

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/721482448/overview/

42,000 miles, what a cream puff!

Dang, now I want this

ok so now she can go do the things she wants to do and is not dependent up you for rides everywhere.

It’s a nice car, but I won’t drive anything other than a big SUV because of how HORRIBLE the drivers are around here. I’ve been in s~~~ tons of accidents, NONE of which my fault ever since I moved to this state. I’d hate to get her something like this only for her to get in an accident and die.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Anonymous wrote:

hey dark Ryu,

I make do on about $22,000 a year. Of that, $6,000 goes to my ex, $10,000 goes to the landlord. Yes, you are fabulously wealthy by my standards.

Macys is a rich persons store. I splurge at JCP once every 5 years. The s~~~ I’m wearing now came from failmart.

I don’t want to pick a fight with you, just trying to give you some perspective here.

That’s rough. Hopefully you’ll be able to get out of your situation eventually. But Macy’s is not a “rich persons” store by any means. They couldn’t survive if they only targeted rich people, as rich people are a very small percentage of the population. The average starting income of someone shopping at Macy’s is probably in the 40k’s. If you’re making minimum wage, you’re not shopping there. But there are plenty of people that make $40k+/year.

People that make $20k/year live VERY different lives to those making $40k/year. The guy that makes $20k/year lives on cheap food and buys his s~~~ from places like Walmart or wherever he can find s~~~ the cheapest. The guy making $40k/year has more options and can also shop at places like Macy’s and go out to eat at a nice restaurant now and again.

The guy making $20k/year is lucky to have a car, and if he does, it’s an old, unreliable beater. The guy making $40k/year either finances or leases a basic car, or buys a slightly fancier used car and finances that. Both of these guys might rent their home/apartment, but only one of them has any chance of being able to own one.

The difference between making $40k/year and $60k/year is much less drastic. The guy making $60k/year can afford a slightly nicer car and can have a bit more fun, but that’s about it. The difference between making $60k/year and $80k/year is even smaller than the jump from $40k/year to $60k/year. Basically once you reach $40k/year you reach the point of diminishing returns. The only way to get a SIGNIFICANTLY better life is to make around $250,000/year.

NOTE: These numbers assume that you don’t live in a liberal s~~~hole state. If you live in a liberal s~~~hole state, double or triple these numbers.

[JVBParticipant]

Just spend time with her on her special day bro. That’s priceless. I don’t know your mom but odds are she wouldn’t want you to drop that kind of cash. My 2cents.

Peace is > piece.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5068]

A 15inch black rubber dildo.

[JVBParticipant]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

A 15inch black rubber dildo.

Don’t be c~~~. It’s his mom bro.

Peace is > piece.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Try going to a womens website and ask the same question with the budget and for whom…They can think of a thousand options for you to choose from…They are women and they know how to spend money…

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