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APOCRAPHAL LITERATURE (currently still in the Catholic Bible but not the Protestant Bible):
“I had rather dwell with a lion and a dragon, than to keep house with a wicked woman. The wickedness of a woman changeth her face, and darkeneth her countenance like sackcloth. Her husband shall sit among his neighbours; and when he heareth it shall sigh bitterly. All wickedness is but little to the wickedness of a woman: let the portion of a sinner fall upon her. As the climbing up a sandy way is to the feet of the aged, so is a wife full of words to a quiet man. Stumble not at the beauty of a woman, and desire her not for pleasure. A woman, if she maintain her husband, is full of anger, impudence, and much reproach. A wicked woman abateth the courage, maketh an heavy countenance and a wounded heart: a woman that will not comfort her husband in distress maketh weak hands and feeble knees. Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die. Give the water no passage; neither a wicked woman liberty to gad abroad. If she go not as thou wouldest have her, cut her off from thy flesh, and give her a bill of divorce, and let her go.”
Ecclesiasticus 25:16-26 (KJV)“For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach.”
Ecclesiasticus 42:13-14 (KJV)From the Bible:
“I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all.”
Ecclesiastes 7:28b (NIV)“Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.”
Proverbs 31:3 (KJV)Most of us know the stories of Samson and Delilah (Judges 13-16) and Jezebel, (1 Kings 16-19) which are too lengthy to be quoted here.
If you know others, please post them below!
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.
Timothy 2:12 “I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men. she is to keep silent”.
Sounds pretty direct and important(!) but WHY was it written?
It also continues:Timothy 2:13-2:14 “(13)For Adam was formed first, then Eve; (14) and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.”
Why it was written? What does it mean? Is it bulls~~~? Is it patriarchy? What is the context? What does Adam and Eve have to do with it?
Let’s find out.Absolute Truth v.s Relative Truth.
The Garden of Eden is a story of the battle of Absolute Truth vs. Relative Truth, and the danger of what happens by placing the Relative Truth higher in importance than the Absolute Truth. It is a story about humankind’s ability to bend the truth to over-ride reality — often with dire consequences.
There was only one rule in the Garden: ” DON’T EAT FROM THAT TREE!” There was only one truth that Adam and Eve had to follow. . . it gets interesting, because Eve was deceived but she was not particularly lied to. In fact, the serpent’s assertions are perfectly valid, although very craftily worded:
“you will not surely die”.
And then Eve’s female rationalizing hamster wheel starts churning, mired in Relative Truth.
“When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.”
Because it was good for food, pleasing to look at, and desirable for gaining wisdom . . . .Eve rationalized to herself why the Relative Truth which she wished for ought to be able to over-ride the Absolute Truth that existed.
( SIDE NOTE: Could placing the Relative Truth humans create in their brains over the Absolute Truth that exists in reality be the “original sin?” )
Also to note here in the Garden story is the difference between men and women, and something we also often speak of in the Manosphere: Adam, the mangina, simply went along with her.
Timothy 2:12-14 RSV: “I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.”
Adam was not deceived.
He sinned willingly.Eve deceived herself with her female driven hamster-wheel of relative-truth laden brain, but Adam was not deceived at all. He was standing right there and was not deceived; Eve gave it to him, and he was still without sin at this point. But like a mangina eager to please, he said, “sure thing, Toots!” and swallowed ‘er down whole.
To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you”, “You must not eat of it” . . . (Man’s Curse) . . . hence the expulsion from Paradise.
It’s pretty clear.
Between Adam and Eve, God expects a different level of cognition.
God expected Adam to know better than Eve, because Adam has the capability to know better.Of all of the things that were in the world during the Garden, the only thing not directly from God — is Eve. She was created from Adam, who was created in God’s image. Adam is copy of God, and Eve is a copy of Adam. Adam is “one step closer” to God & Absolute Truth than Eve is.
And, when regarding how male and female brains operate in order to ascertain “TRUTH” this holds true – men and women “find the truth” in different ways.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Woman’s first sin: she wanted to be like God
Man’s first sin: obeyed his wife instead of GodTells you a lot about human nature.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
let’s not forget Judges ch 16. That defines the true nature/character of a woman. (Samson & Delilah)
Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)
Proverbs 31:10. Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
I’ve mentioned somewhere here before, that after I took the red pill this verse blew my mind. I used to think that this was just a cute way of saying that everyone desires a virtuous woman. But then I realized what’s really being said… that virtuous women are exceedingly rare.
You don’t just pick up a handful of rubies down by the riverbank. They’re rare and precious.
But especially within the Christian church, we are expected to believe that all Christian women are virtuous because they are Christians. I used to think that most Christian wives would fit the description of the Proverbs 31 woman, but now I suspect that 99% of them probably are not (and that includes Christian wives who are honestly trying to live according to what the Bible teaches about women, or at least what they think it teaches).
TL;DR… Major Red Pill moment for me when I realized that the Bible teaches that most wives out there are not virtuous.
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
Anonymous6Don’t forget Jezebel. Now that’s one bitch who could give any modern woman a run for her money.
Proverbs 31:10. Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
The only two women from the Bible that you could truly call virtuous are Ruth and Esther, the only two women with Books named after them, heck even Mary, the mother of Jesus was only chosen because she was a young virgin who was betrothed to a descendant of King David
Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.
Anonymous42Women banding together as one monolithic voice that NEVER STFU? What could possibly go wrong?
I made women silent by expulsion and following the rules of my own directive.
With modern women and all their endless entitlement, to entertain one is like inviting a goat into your home and then expecting it to behave and not to s~~~ and p~~~ allover, walk on tables, counter tops, knocking s~~~ over and eating all your houseplants.
keep the Goat OUTSIDE at a MINIMUM!
But especially within the Christian church, we are expected to believe that all Christian women are virtuous because they are Christians. I used to think that most Christian wives would fit the description of the Proverbs 31 woman, but now I suspect that 99% of them probably are not (and that includes Christian wives who are honestly trying to live according to what the Bible teaches about women, or at least what they think it teaches).
Very insightful thinking and an absolute truth. The exact experience I’ve had with my soon to be ex-wife. She is full of anger, unforgiveness, bitterness, vengeance and has become a total narcissistic bitch. Yet she plays only praise and worship music, attends church weekly, and two to three women’s bible study groups per week. Most of this must be to convince everyone she is a great person. Like the pastor in the 1941 movie “Alvin York”, as played by Gary Cooper said. She has the Sunday go to meeting religion, not the every day using kind of religion.
TTWI ain't got a wife to spend my money, I have to do that all by myself.
Proverbs 31:10. Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
That’s a great verse. I committed it to memory. Thanks!
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
Timothy 2:12 “I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men. she is to keep silent”.
Sounds pretty direct and important(!) but WHY was it written?
It also continues:Timothy 2:13-2:14 “(13)For Adam was formed first, then Eve; (14) and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.”
Why it was written? What does it mean? Is it bulls~~~? Is it patriarchy? What is the context? What does Adam and Eve have to do with it?
Let’s find out.Absolute Truth v.s Relative Truth.
The Garden of Eden is a story of the battle of Absolute Truth vs. Relative Truth, and the danger of what happens by placing the Relative Truth higher in importance than the Absolute Truth. It is a story about humankind’s ability to bend the truth to over-ride reality — often with dire consequences.
There was only one rule in the Garden: ” DON’T EAT FROM THAT TREE!” There was only one truth that Adam and Eve had to follow. . . it gets interesting, because Eve was deceived but she was not particularly lied to. In fact, the serpent’s assertions are perfectly valid, although very craftily worded:
“you will not surely die”.
And then Eve’s female rationalizing hamster wheel starts churning, mired in Relative Truth.
“When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.”
Because it was good for food, pleasing to look at, and desirable for gaining wisdom . . . .Eve rationalized to herself why the Relative Truth which she wished for ought to be able to over-ride the Absolute Truth that existed.
( SIDE NOTE: Could placing the Relative Truth humans create in their brains over the Absolute Truth that exists in reality be the “original sin?” )
Also to note here in the Garden story is the difference between men and women, and something we also often speak of in the Manosphere: Adam, the mangina, simply went along with her.
Timothy 2:12-14 RSV: “I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.”
Adam was not deceived.
He sinned willingly.Eve deceived herself with her female driven hamster-wheel of relative-truth laden brain, but Adam was not deceived at all. He was standing right there and was not deceived; Eve gave it to him, and he was still without sin at this point. But like a mangina eager to please, he said, “sure thing, Toots!” and swallowed ‘er down whole.
To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you”, “You must not eat of it” . . . (Man’s Curse) . . . hence the expulsion from Paradise.
It’s pretty clear.
Between Adam and Eve, God expects a different level of cognition.
God expected Adam to know better than Eve, because Adam has the capability to know better.Of all of the things that were in the world during the Garden, the only thing not directly from God — is Eve. She was created from Adam, who was created in God’s image. Adam is copy of God, and Eve is a copy of Adam. Adam is “one step closer” to God & Absolute Truth than Eve is.
Damn KM that is some ABSOLUTE TRUTH bombs there. It explains everything…
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
My father explained to me that the forbidden fruit was sex.
In order to conceive original sin must occur.
My father had me and my brothers read the bible from the perspective of women as the reflection of a devil spirit.
To be a man you must stand on your own feet and think with absolute truth. You are accountable, you are responsible for your actions.
Peace brothers
My father explained to me that the forbidden fruit was sex.
In order to conceive original sin must occur.
It’s true that in some Catholic circles, sex is seen as the original sin. Historically, Biblical scholars tended to reject this interpretation in favor of other possibilities, particularly in pride being the original sin, which led to disobedience.
In Eve’s case, I think KM is right… it was Eve’s pride which led her hamster-wheel brain into a pattern of self-deception and rationalization, ultimately leading to her making the wrong choice. Adam fell victim to pride, too, choosing to disobey God rather than face the “shame” of going against what Eve wanted. Mangina-pride is based on how well the mangina wins the approval of females, and he would face almost anything other than shaming from a female.
KM, I’ve heard a number of different women try to explain away this passage. Ironically, they kinda prove the point, because the hamster rationalization wheel has to be spinning at 100mph in order to turn this verse away from its obvious meaning. Just like how Eve was able to distort the obvious intent of God’s command, “Don’t eat from that tree!”
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
That book of fairy tales? Ya know.. This might be hard for some of you religious MGTOW guys to hear, but if you’re still subscribing to this nonsense, then you’re not out of the woods yet. You’re still on the plantation. You’re still being indoctrinated. Religion, the bible… It’s as blue pill as it gets. It makes zero sense to give up living in one fallacy to replace it with another.
I agree IRULE.
Religion/god beliefs and even much of politics is very blue-pill ( our mammal-herd instinct mid-brain ). It took me till age 60 to figure all this out. Now I am 71. AND I am liberated from women, politics, gods and beliefs in “afterlife” and other BS.
Speaking of an afterlife: All that the christian bible beliefs offer is eternal torture ( in hellfire ) or an eternal tyrant (God/Jesus) in heaven. They have to make up better options for me! LOL!
so, IRULE….To YOUR happiness and freedom!
HL
This might be hard for some of you religious MGTOW guys to hear, but if you’re still subscribing to this nonsense, then you’re not out of the woods yet. You’re still on the plantation. You’re still being indoctrinated. Religion, the bible… It’s as blue pill as it gets.
Not really, in the broader sense. Religion is really nothing more than your belief system about morality, ethics, and where it all comes from (God, for instance). Atheism and Agnosticism are, in fact, religious systems because they inform you about the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, mankind, and our own human agency (just borrowing from the dictionary definition). Everyone has beliefs about the universe and our place in it, and what we should do. Your own MGTOW beliefs form part of your perception about what should or shouldn’t take place within human ethics. It is religious in nature. Religion does not presuppose a belief in God(s).
However….
You are absolutely right that it CAN BE as blue pill as it can possibly get. Religion, like many other things, can be entirely co-opted by those with ulterior motives. Specifically within Christianity (since that’s what this thread is about), Christian women have for centuries have enslaved men, despite the Bible’s many warnings about the nature of women.
My belief in the Bible does not hinge upon women, however. Thank goodness.
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
That book of fairy tales? Ya know.. This might be hard for some of you religious MGTOW guys to hear, but if you’re still subscribing to this nonsense, then you’re not out of the woods yet.
Funny, seeing as you strike me as maybe the most blue pill guy on this forum. Catholicism is as red pill as it gets. Did you bother to read the quotes the brothers have mentioned? I don’t care whether you believe the Bible or not, you should recognize a true red pill statement like “I permit no woman to hold authority over a man” when you see it. It’s a sign of ignorance to refuse to accept wisdom from belief systems other than your own.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
That book of fairy tales? Ya know.. This might be hard for some of you religious MGTOW guys to hear, but if you’re still subscribing to this nonsense, then you’re not out of the woods yet.
You must have your head up your ass if you think Catholicism is “red pill”. But I guess covering for pedophile priests and putting a wafer in your mouth before you hum and sing verses and s~~~ in a monotone voice is red pill. What a crock of horse s~~~. Catholicism is as much a pile of steaming horse s~~~ as the rest of the religions. Esp given their track record of paying homage to statues of Jesus and Mary, and the rest of the cast of characters from that junk science book. When in fact the bible itself ADMONISHES worshipping idols. What do you call it when you pray to a f~~~ing statue? Worshipping an idol. Hypocrisy. Show me a catholic that doesn’t eat ham (unclean meat) and I’ll show you a building full of people who do, claiming to be catholic. Do you know why I can say this? Because both sides of my family are f~~~ing catholic. You’re an asshat who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Funny, seeing as you strike me as maybe the most blue pill guy on this forum. Catholicism is as red pill as it gets. Did you bother to read the quotes the brothers have mentioned? I don’t care whether you believe the Bible or not, you should recognize a true red pill statement like “I permit no woman to hold authority over a man” when you see it. It’s a sign of ignorance to refuse to accept wisdom from belief systems other than your own.
Again, talking out of your ass not knowing what you’re talking about. Religion is a mind control device used to control men. Written by men, manipulated by women, cherrypicked by everyone else. Belief systems with MERIT were meant to be taken into account. Belief systems that are bulls~~~ and without merit were meant to be f~~~ing mocked and ridiculed for the joke that they are. We mock feminism because it’s a f~~~ing joke! We laugh at social justice warriors because their belief system is a f~~~ing joke! It’s ignorant to think “I’m free now” while you subscribe to a religion that is inherently designed to CONTROL YOU. You wanna be free? Throw that s~~~ in the trash.
Religion is a cancer. It’s been the motivating cause for the majority of death and destruction throughout time on this planet. It contributes nothing but the perversion of man. But go ahead. Submit yourself to your master. Bend your knees and keep being a slave. That means you’re still on the f~~~ing plantation!
You get p~~~y because women want you to be physical and economical slaves, but give religion who wants you to also be a mental slave, and an economical slave (give us 10% of your money) a pass. Yeah. Definitely red pill for sure.
“I’m going my own way! I’m off the plantation!” No, you’re still a f~~~ing slave.
Religion and churches are where hypergamy flourishes. They’re cults. How do I know? Because I saw that s~~~ first hand. I grew up moving from one cult to the next and I knew it was nonsense from the time I was 5. There’s absolutely ZERO things red pill about cults. It’s as blue pill, and beta as it gets. Esp the guys who sign up for religion looking for single religious women to marry. Catholics, as much as every other religion, peddle the marriage scam. Which was guess what? A PAGAN ritual.
That book of fairy tales? Ya know.. This might be hard for some of you religious MGTOW guys to hear, but if you’re still subscribing to this nonsense, then you’re not out of the woods yet. You’re still on the plantation. You’re still being indoctrinated. Religion, the bible… It’s as blue pill as it gets. It makes zero sense to give up living in one fallacy to replace it with another.
No, man. You’re missing the point.
Religion is a “belief system”.
MGTOW / Red Pill is a LIFESTYLE CHOICE entirely grounded in REALITY.
I spoke a metaphor above and applied it to a real word uses and examples visible to us. I found actual meaning and a direct parallel in something that appeared to just be a nutty religious statement. The expulsion from paradise also happens every day in divorce and family courts . . . .
“Woman ruins man’s paradise”.
GET IT?
A belief system can totally co-exist with a red pill lifestyle choice. A man can “believe” in anything if it brings him some additional comfort. Santa Clause, the Eater Bunny, and the tooth fairy . Whatever. As long as he’s fully aware of the world around him. He can day dream and get high and write poetic metaphors to make sense of things all he wants.
He’s not anymore “blue pill” because of it.
An educated mind is one that can fully entertain a thought – without accepting it. Reading and enjoying the bible and figuring out WHY it was written is half the fun of it! Or why bother reading it at all?
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You’re an asshat who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
What an overwhelming argument. I’m completely speechless. But boy, you sure sound bitter. Kind of hard to have a discussion with someone whose posts are half hateful rant, half misconception about the topic at hand. You sound like a triggered SJW.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
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