BGHOW to now MGHOW

[No_ApologiesParticipant 46]

Hello everyone,

I’m an 18 yr old man who happened to stumble upon the concept of MGTOW when I was 17 thanks to some random Sandman video and then came Stardusk, TFM and Bar Bar who happened to validate the lifestyle that I’ve always been living as a BGHOW to now MGHOW.

First experience with the Matrix was back when I was 11 back before I understood the concept of virginity, I said this to all the 11 yr old boys and girls who asked me even back then about dating prospects. I said “I feel no need for a woman”. Next cue the anti-male shaming tactic “You will always be a virgin” and the same type of annoying comments. Now thanks to MGTOW, I had never before considered escorts but hey when I’m older I can just pay some hooker and have a one night stand without having to deal with all the stress that women bring into my life. My dad has always told me “No_Apologies, you should have a very strong sense of self-confidence because with it you can accomplish many things in life.” His advice clicked in me because even since I was a kid, the only expectations that I’ve ever tried to validate were the ones set by myself. Of course other people gave me helpful goals but I was the only one who decided whether or not to follow that advice. Self-validation has always been the type of validation that I’ve strived for.

My parents told me to not hang around girls or start relations~~~s until marriage age. This was sage advice, because I managed to save myself from turning into a blue-pill smuck and the hellhole that is relations~~~s in general. As I grew older, I was a guy with a higher self-restraint than most of the blue-pill men around me who always said “Why don’t you have a girlfriend?” to which my response was always family and religious values(though I’m non-religious now so I just use it as an excuse) in general. So my friends have always been male, and truth be told thank god for that because even boys understand masculine virtues such as honor and loyalty. Plus guys are pretty easy to please and I can actually enjoy the colorful banter that we have. With chicks, it always felt awkward to talk to them outside of work-related stuff. The answer to this, as I have discovered thanks to this site and MGTOW in general, is that females were never intended to be your “friends”. They are meant to either f~~~ or have kids with(I ain’t having kids mind you) but they could never really understand because men and women think differently. Heck a man that I’ve never met may even understand me better than even my own mother who has known me her entire life.

But that doesn’t mean my friends are red pill. A few of them are purple but two of them are capable men but thanks to blue-pill conditioning on social media sites, they are sadly pussy beggars. This type of behavior has always made me internally cringe, men are told the lie than in order to feel “happy” that they must be in some sort of relations~~~. If men stopped trying to “find” happiness, and instead realize that they can create it for themselves then this type of behavior would certainly be less although some men will always be blue. The blue pill conditioning is cancerous, because men are conditioned by society to act well like manginas. As a friend of these two, I give them small red pills in an effort to help them out but they are too damn conditioned to give “likes” and “retweet” to some attention whore on social media sites which is why I stay the hell away from these websites because it will make a man blue-pill as f~~~ if he stays in there for so long.

The most difficult red pill for me to take was “AWALT”. While I was well aware of making sure to not deal with toxic bitches or just BTFO if absolutely necessary even as a kid, I met some girls in my life who I genuinely thought were intelligent and would be happy to marry back when I was a kid. For me personally what really drove home AWALT to me was that ALL WOMEN DRAIN A MAN’S TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES. This phrase hit home to me because it is absolutely true because relations~~~s are all built upon compromise and I for one have no desire whatsoever to compromise my valuable time(which is my most precious resource), energy and resources with any woman. It doesn’t matter if it is a NAWALT because they will drain your time at the very least. A man without a wife and kids is a man who can live up to the height of his potential and have less chains on himself than other men. After that, this pill was relatively easy to swallow. I also don’t believe in NAWALT either simply degrees of AWALT with the lowest being some chick very close to NAWALT to average being well the average women to high being a feminazi c~~~. I follow the MGTOW creed of “MGTOW men don’t cohabitate, impregnate or marry a woman” because this is the basic fundamental truth as women will take your time, energy and resources from you.

Anyway thanks for taking the time to read,
No_Apologies

[globemasterParticipant 443]

No_Apologies wrote:

s that females were never intended to be your “friends”. They are meant to either f~~~ or have kids with(I ain’t having kids mind you) but they could never really understand because men and women think differently. Heck a man that I’ve never met may even understand me better

True.

[Anonymous 54]

I wish i had known all that when i was your age.I didnt figure it out till i was 50.Your right ,women can not ever really be your friend.They dont have your back like a guy would. With out that its not real friendship in my book.

[Lone Wolf83Participant 825]

You are way ahead of the game. Keep the course young padawan and the fruits of your labor will be realized later on in life, trust me on it. I’m only 32 and it is only getting better for me.

If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Welcome to MGTOW and the Forums. Dig your “No_Apologies” policy. (some things I used to be “sorry” for make me cringe today). You’re 18 and I just realized something new from you. How do you like that. A big welcome to you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings No-Apologies,

Your father is worth his weight in gold. It took me decades and lots of focused psychological training to stop worshiping the “God of Guilt.” All of that groveling and pleading that “it will never happen again” is for slaves. The behavior of all of the people involved in the practice makes it a bad cult too.

The reality is that rational free men build great civilizations. Our ability to see the truth and think objectively makes the world naturally better and helps to create places where everyone wants to live. For all of the good we do in the world, we never have to say “I’m sorry.”

On the rare occasion that I cause someone harm. I simply acknowledge the error and real damage, like a Taxonomist identifying an unusual magic mushroom and its psychotropic consequences. It is understood, without verbiage, that once the problem is identified, an adult will not let it happen again.

It is encouraging to see wisdom written by someone young, like yourself. Your parent’s advice is excellent and your introduction is outstanding. I look forward to reading more of your posts.

Nevertheless, here are some words of caution because “you are not out of the woods yet.” There are powerful biological forces involved with mating and some of which we do not have the science to understand yet. It is automatic and happens in the background beneath a rational man’s thoughts. Many of these forces remain dormant in some longer than others. It is rare to find a man who is invulnerable to these forces throughout his lifetime.

A healthy young woman’s pheromones has always been like a drug addiction for me with real withdrawal symptoms. It is one of the reasons that I was unable to comprehend that my women were exploiting me while I was f~~~ing them. Our science has proven that heroin is a weak approximation of a healthy young woman’s pheromones.

We like to convince ourselves that we are superior to all of the other animals on the planet. However, I have come to believe that we are no different than “dogs sniffing each other’s butts.”

Here is a poster which illustrates some science about pheromones:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[AlexadrianParticipant 13]

Welcome brother, the earlier you start going your way the better, i don’t know if you really want to go down the hooker path, from what i know sex with a women you don’t love doesn’t feel that good, some even feel disgusted, i really don’t know, so i just let you know and let you decide for yourself, but whatever you decide remember, never stray back to the Plantation™ and stay true to the Redpill™!

[No_ApologiesParticipant 46]

Sorry for the late replies, I’ve been busy with stuff in life.

Anonymous wrote:

I wish i had known all that when i was your age.I didnt figure it out till i was 50.Your right ,women can not ever really be your friend.They dont have your back like a guy would. With out that its not real friendship in my book.

Well if this site and MGTOW as a concept did not exist, I would have gotten married like my dad thinking that being married is a respectable status and it will do me well in life. Although now that I know what I know, I will never impregnate, cohabitate or use my time on women apart from sex if I choose to do so. And yeah men are easier to hang around with because they understand you.

Keymaster wrote:

Welcome to MGTOW and the Forums. Dig your “No_Apologies” policy. (some things I used to be “sorry” for make me cringe today). You’re 18 and I just realized something new from you. How do you like that. A big welcome to you.

Heh, I just picked this name from a song that could be considered somewhat red pill. I mean in real life if I make a genuine mistake, I will apologize if it is my fault. But I never apologize over small things and on this site, I will never apologize to any c~~~/laydeez for being a MGTOW KM.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Greetings No-Apologies,

Your father is worth his weight in gold. It took me decades and lots of focused psychological training to stop worshiping the “God of Guilt.” All of that groveling and pleading that “it will never happen again” is for slaves. The behavior of all of the people involved in the practice makes it a bad cult too.

The reality is that rational free men build great civilizations. Our ability to see the truth and think objectively makes the world naturally better and helps to create places where everyone wants to live. For all of the good we do in the world, we never have to say “I’m sorry.”

On the rare occasion that I cause someone harm. I simply acknowledge the error and real damage, like a Taxonomist identifying an unusual magic mushroom and its psychotropic consequences. It is understood, without verbiage, that once the problem is identified, an adult will not let it happen again.

It is encouraging to see wisdom written by someone young, like yourself. Your parent’s advice is excellent and your introduction is outstanding. I look forward to reading more of your posts.

Nevertheless, here are some words of caution because “you are not out of the woods yet.” There are powerful biological forces involved with mating and some of which we do not have the science to understand yet. It is automatic and happens in the background beneath a rational man’s thoughts. Many of these forces remain dormant in some longer than others. It is rare to find a man who is invulnerable to these forces throughout his lifetime.

A healthy young woman’s pheromones has always been like a drug addiction for me with real withdrawal symptoms. It is one of the reasons that I was unable to comprehend that my women were exploiting me while I was f~~~ing them. Our science has proven that heroin is a weak approximation of a healthy young woman’s pheromones.

We like to convince ourselves that we are superior to all of the other animals on the planet. However, I have come to believe that we are no different than “dogs sniffing each other’s butts.”

When my dad says to have a strong self-confidence in myself, he often raises his fist to symbolize internal strength and I admire just how much internal self-confidence he has when he says this because it is legitimate. My dad is also a big fan of introspection and has repeatedly told me “No_Apologies, you know yourself better than anyone else so you personally should figure out what your problems are and figure out the best solution to said problem because other people can only help for so long at the end of the day it has to be you who solves your own issues.”

Rational men are indeed the foundation for a solid civilization,TMM, because at the end of the day all we have to look at history to find many examples of great men who understood the world for what it is and lived their lives to the best of their ability.

Regarding pheronomones, attraction and the ilk, the only solutions that I could think of for myself at least were: get a vasectomy when I have the money(do not want to impregnate a woman ever), only talk to them regarding work and not stay in their company more than necessary, and have the self-restraint and self-awareness to not indulge in them.

Alexadrian wrote:

Welcome brother, the earlier you start going your way the better, i don’t know if you really want to go down the hooker path, from what i know sex with a women you don’t love doesn’t feel that good, some even feel disgusted, i really don’t know, so i just let you know and let you decide for yourself, but whatever you decide remember, never stray back to the Plantation™ and stay true to the Redpill™!

Regarding hookers, there is something called a GFE(girlfriend experience) that you can ask of them where they’ll act like your own personal girlfriend giving you an emotional connection to them and allow you to screw them afterwards. I hope it works in my case but if not oh well not a loss or anything really. It’s funny when you think about it in the perspective of society, men are the idealists disguised as realists in regards to love(blue-pillers) and women are the realists disguised as idealists.

For reference to GFE there is a three parter about escorts on red male hummingbird:
Escorts

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

@no_apologies Thanks for your great posts and insight for someone so young you have a lot of wisdom. I never even knew about the girlfriend experience but then again I never used escorts or prostitutes never had the urge to do it. I have no regrets I made my mistakes and live with them you will make a lot as you go along as well just learn and move on from them is the best advice I can give to you at the moment. What doesn’t break you will make you stronger as the saying goes keep your head high and live your life the way you know how. When in doubt ask us we are here to help.

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