Beyond Marriage and Traditions

[joey_fingazParticipant 132]

Right now, even though I have plans for the next couple years of my life, in the whole scheme of things I don’t know what I’m going to do now. Before I was so worried about marriage and even though I didn’t want it, I still had a belief that I would end up getting married and starting a family. But now, I have my whole life ahead of me and I don’t know how to spend the rest of it. The way I’m looking at it now, I’m 28 and I have so many great years ahead of me. But beyond financial freedom, travel, sex, friends, what else is there? With marriage out of the picture what do you guys do? I guess I need bigger ideas. I need concepts and ideas beyond the traditional sense, I just don’t know where to find them.

First thing I want is to build a lifestyle which will probably take me 5-10 years. Then after that I have no idea. Who knows what will happen in between that time, I think that when looking ahead, creating a marriage and family is looked at as an ultimate goal. Big house, 401k, big salary, big wedding, some kids, a dog, family vacas, all that tradition stuff. It’s sold as the ultimate life. Like that is what the big goal is for pretty much everyone. But now that I took marriage and kids out of the picture, what else is there? What is the big goal? I could spend my life chasing money, but for me I would rather make what I’m making now in passive income so I can do whatever I want instead of work 5 days a week. So I don’t technically need millions. I just want to have some ideas. I want to think bigger.

[WolfParticipant 890]

You sorta answered your own question. Now that you took marriage and kids out of the picture, what else is there?

Like you said, build a lifestyle that appeals to you. What do you do after that? Enjoy the lifestyle you built. You can still have a big house, if you choose. Get a dog if that’s what you want. Focus on a career and build large salary/savings if that rocks your boat. Take vacations to places that appeal to you. Hell, move to Mexico and be a SCUBA instructor if that appeals to you.

The beauty of no marriage and kids: you are free to do whatever you want. You don’t have to stay in a job you hate in order to support the family. You don’t need to compromise on what you want – just do it. Liberty is priceless.

I agree – lots of people have marriage and kids as the ultimate goal, but it’s not what it’s cracked up to be. Just ask the many people who divorce. Even ask people who are supposedly happily married. People tend to love the idea of marriage – not actually living it.

[pabsawakeParticipant 1761]

It’s a great question you are asking yourself. I think that most men would love to have a loyal lifetime woman by his side and children. I think this comes natural to men. Remember it’s men that have a greater capacity to love (or whatever you want to call it) than woman. Men love their wives and children unconditionally. You can’t say the same for women. The one big problem as I see, if you do hold out on marriage many of your friends that get married will abandon you. Not because they want to but they will be forced to by their oppressive wives to leave you behind. These woman will not want their husbands to look upon the freedom that you have. They are controlling and manipulative c~~~s. They want blue pill popping zombies, while they are running around and banging Chad! My advise! Stay single enrich your own life you are still young enough to see the day when men can have a child without a woman. It’s just not worth it bro! They are way too f~~~ed up to throw your life away. I think I know a Unicorn but I still won’t take the chance again.

"You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Joey, I went through the same phase of thinking you are in right now. What it basically boiled down to for me is marriage has the potential to be such a financially catastrophic even that I don’t think its worth the risking all the other things I want out of life just for the sake of being married. I can still have relationships with women…just on my terms, not the legal terms of the state. If I really want I can still have kids, and a fixed amount of child support is a hell of a lot cheaper than child support + a divorce. Better yet if I can retire by 40 I can spend lot’s of time in Asia and South America and f~~~ lots of hot young prostitutes instead of being stuck with a fat naggy wife.

I still think it kind of sucks the raw deal our generation got in regards to the quality of women available, but hey, it is what it is, feminism has damaged society and now our options are to adapt to the new way things are, or to go sign a lopsided marriage contract with a low quality woman and hope she doesn’t ever decide to financially wreck you in the future.

[joey_fingazParticipant 132]

Thanks for the insight guys. It’s kind of messed up how even though i know I dodged a bullet I still feel guilty about it. Now I keep thinking that what if I made a mistake? Before I ended it I had a conversation with someone who’s opinion I very much admire, he told me that if I didn’t take responsibility for this then in another couple months I would be having the same conversation with him. He was right, if I stayed I would have kept being miserable. Feeling like you can’t live your life the way you want to is a s~~~ty feeling. It kills your spirit. But I still know that I let go of someone that I definitely could have married. I could have had that family life where out of all our friends we would be making the most money, had the biggest house, ect… Now that I chose to leave that, I think if marriage is being taught to everyone as being such a crucial part of life, what do the people do that choose to not get married?

I guess I’m still in that phase of being angry too. Seeing that I was fed such a big lie, and now seeing all the evidence that has allowed me to move past it, I guess there’s a part of me that’s trying to hold on. Not just marriage, also the idea of going out to clubs to find girls to f~~~, that was such an important part of my life. I actually stopped going to the gym because I don’t care about attracting girls anymore. The only motivation for working out that i had was to look good for a girl so she would want to have sex. Although I do want to start training again just for the sake of looking good for myself.

When I was still in a relationship, I would fantasize about being single again. I told myself that I would never get into another relationship and I would spend the rest of my life doing whatever the f~~~ I wanted. Now that’s it’s here though I have no appreciation for it. I don’t know why this is.

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