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I just read 3/4th of this rambling post about the Lost Boys (http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/09/the-revenge-of-the-lost-boys/). In it this Beta Male goes on about the young men who do crazy things, like trying to kill as many as possible. Normally, I wouldn’t mind the expression of pain and suffering for what men go through, nor wouldn’t I mind pointing out what is particular to those who do crazy things. However, this Beta crosses the line into hatred zone and combines the two. If you’re a failed male, you go into narcissism and go crazy.
The problem is that I was one of these “failed males.” I was a late bloomer, skinny, and white. I went from school to school because my father was in the military. Whenever I had trouble at school, my parents would just punish me. There was no asking me anything about what problems I faced, just a lot of yelling and punishing.
My grades slumped, I was bullied, teachers bullied me, staff bullied me. I was labeled an “At Risk Student,” which is a PC way of saying, “Juvenile Delinquent.” I was a piece of s~~~ and they struggled to prove it to me. I was in 9th grade when the Columbine event occurred. One girl, who was actually more sympathetic to me, said that she immediately thought of me. I was seen as the next crazy kid.
The problem was that I had a much stronger will than they. I was able to recognize how I was being systemically mistreated by a dysfunctional system. I externalized the problem and failed to blame myself. I did blame myself for my social skills and tried really hard to be liked, but there’s nothing you can do when they’re absolutely determined to hate you. You will never prove you’re not a bad person once you’re labeled.
I struggled with a delayed adolescence. My father was a foolish man, a man with Borderline Personality Disorder, and my mother was codependent. My two older sisters turned into narcissistic c~~~s, the middle one being the nastiest. To this day I refuse any contact with them. My mother struggled to keep the family together, but it was so overly destroyed there was no point. I feel sorry for my mother, and didn’t want to put her through it, but there’s no way in hell I’m going to tolerate those who wenches. All that passive aggressiveness, agenda, and manipulation, you’re way out of your mind.
My mother had a habit of throwing me under the bus, which did teach my father he can do it and get away with it, as well as teaching my sisters that I was just to be scapegoated, mistreated, and lied to just so they don’t have to face the destruction of their massive and frail egos.
I had that delayed adolescence. I had two sleep issues, PTSD, I was in survival mode, ostracized, and I was stripped of my voice to speak. I couldn’t hold a job, even though I was bright. I dealt with betas in the work place. I allowed myself to be taken by women. I even decided that the problem was that women were systemically oppressed by those jerk men. Those were the very same jerk men who mistreated me, the teachers, staff, other boys, and my father (see the link?). I blamed them for their, “toxic masculinity,” and I sympathized with women.
Then this jerk comes up with a justification of their wicked behavior. I’m not a failed man. I’m a strong man. I’ve at times held some very radical beliefs, where I was openly outright hateful against the American Government (though I was parroting the anti-American sentiments that the liberal public schools taught me, and by the way, it’s OK to be liberal and hateful about what the government is doing, but it’s not OK to say you’re a passivist who doesn’t believe in the draft, that’s not OK). I was working through all the grand suffering. These things were entirely unfair, where I didn’t even know what they were really doing. They singled me out for the meat grinder, to take their sins away. I was, in a sense, worshiped like a god. They told me I was responsible for them, which means I’m their master, and I am their god, that I have created them and made them. They depended on me for their continued narcissism. You can see how someone like me can become narcissistic. I probably at least demonstrated some narcissism. Finally, when you see how everybody is weak and treat you like garbage just because they can, you compare yourself and find grand superiority. They are weak, but I am strong. That’s rational. Should it not be true, then why do they need to bully me all the time?
So, this jerk, Mike Mozart, the author of that article decides he’s going to go full retard and basically blame the victims of systemic bullying and call them failed men, that they’re crazy, they become narcissist and struggle. So their failure to get girls turns them into monsters. Despite having the evidence right there in front of him, he completely produces a load of garbage, continuing his psychosis. If he really thinks that’s what happens when you get bullied, then he must be a real evil man himself.
Mike sounds like a radical feminist.
The crowd always sides with the bully. I have observed this throughout my life, from kindergarten on. BTW, chimps do the same thing. Thus, I’m not surprised in the slightest by that article’s attitude.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Thank you for sharing this with us.
My grades slumped, I was bullied, teachers bullied me, staff bullied me. I was labeled an “At Risk Student,” which is a PC way of saying, “Juvenile Delinquent.” I was a piece of s~~~ and they struggled to prove it to me.
I went through this in my own way also. As a young man, the high school guidance counselor labeled me as “antisocial with violent tendencies” without ever being interviewed. What was interesting about that was that I was physically assaulted no less than four times from the 6th through 9th grades by four different faculty members. From the end of the 8th to the end of the 9th grade, I put on 7 inches and 40 pounds. I fought more than my fair share. But to be fair, I was usually a result of not wanting to take anyone’s s~~~. I played football, track and field, and wrestled, but I was still the guy they labeled me as in the 5th grade.
The problem was that I had a much stronger will than they. I was able to recognize how I was being systemically mistreated by a dysfunctional system. I externalized the problem and failed to blame myself. I did blame myself for my social skills and tried really hard to be liked, but there’s nothing you can do when they’re absolutely determined to hate you. You will never prove you’re not a bad person once you’re labeled.
Yup. I lived this one also. Less intelligent than others. Antisocial. Gay (it was the 80s).
I struggled with a delayed adolescence. My father was a foolish man, a man with Borderline Personality Disorder, and my mother was codependent. My two older sisters turned into narcissistic c~~~s, the middle one being the nastiest.
Except for the mom part, I had to cope with this a well.
I blamed them for their, “toxic masculinity,” and I sympathized with women.
I went through this phase as well.
I fully understand your point. When a young man is getting it from all sides, why are others shocked and surprised when he lashes out.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
Anonymous3I actually saw this article earlier today and could only read maybe a fifth of it before I decided there was no reason to keep wasting my time on it.
I am too old now and my time too precious to waste on reading something by stupid people, something that won’t actually benefit me in some way or impart some sort of knowledge on me.
So I am glad to see that I saved my time by not wasting it reading the rest of what I did think was drivel.
Look, society hates men, and when you have a systemic “failure” then it means SOCIETY failed men, and not the other way around. And when society fails men, then you have no society.
I used to wonder how those great empires of the past fell. It’s obvious when someone is setup that the technology advantages and the inertia should keep it going perpetually. Yet all empires fall. Why is that?
It’s because males DO have value and you can only hide things for so long until it matters. You can’t beat age, you can’t beat masculine values, you can’t beat creating an efficient and fair society. Once you have unfairness and favor females above males it’s only a matter of time before the social engineering and tremendous waste of resources catches up to you.
We’re going to reach that point. It’s probably already happening. I’m too old to be asked to “defend” the nation, but you know what? I’m not going to shame the kids into defending it either. I will straight up tell them that their lives matter more, and to tell the government to have women defend this nation. After the women all get slaughtered or enslaved in war, then and only then will I tell men to pick up and defend themselves (for good measure, after the government, bankers and politicians are also toppled, so these young men can then step into those roles after).
Thanks, men. I appreciate what you said. You’ve no idea how much I’ve suffered because of this.
I will say that, what I am troubled by here is that you now have media “thinker” types wring broad sweeping articles about a group, lumping them together as a single group, to point out problem X and use them as a bludgeon to say how evil society is in a way, and something needs to be fixed.
Do any of these media “thinker” types even know any people they find are high risks and do anything to help, or do they hide behind a ideology thinking, “If only out ideology were adopted and it controlled everything it would be great and we wouldn’t have this!”? Troubled men turned into talking points to score points for an ideology and no one gives a damn to help. This sickens me personally. What you will end up seeing is also things like this, where the writer has no clue to fix things, but ends up doing a “we” pleading to the collective “to do” list to fix a problem no one will. It goes like how the article ended: Instead, let’s ask the harder question: why are we raising so many boys who will never make the transition to men, and how do we stop their repeated attacks on their own society?
The reality is that I don’t raise any boys who fail to make a transition to me. I didn’t do it, so why do you come to me to try to fix something I didn’t cause?
Of course, I won’t judge too harshly. There is little I can do to fix the ills of the world. Maybe I can be a better neighbor, and try to be more human, and I can work on myself. What I can do is try not to be a lost boy for myself, and help who I can, by demanding they have decent relationships with me, and work there. Beyond that? How the hell am I supposed to fix anyone else? These “we” comments are great to make you feel connected, and manage to make you feel like you can feel it and will cheerlead anyone who does. But they are empty. It is just fodder for the mind to keep it distracted and feel you are connected with the world, but does nothing to really help anyone.
Ok, want to have a way to help? Among MGTOW, help these “lost boys” feel empowered and find their way. Maybe you can save a few. But I can’t save anyone. I just hope I don’t end up in the wrong spot and get shot. Now excuse men, I have to go job hunt and get on my own too feet. I promise I won’t try to be a “lost boy”.
I would say I know the lost boy thing, and know someone else who is in the same boat. I can only work where I am, and can relate to this. You end up smart and you can’t connect to anyone and don’t fit an no one helps you. It would be great if they did, but they don’t. They don’t know how to. Anyhow, Pascal, I am glad you are making progress.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Damn Pascal, good read…because I can relate! when you grow up in a toxic environment like that, bullied not only by other kids (which I didn’t give a f~~~) but bullied by teachers then; have to go home and hear it from your parents. I’m guessing your around 33-34? I’m 27 so I grew up in the same era. Anyhow, two things either happen you become a Narcissist (which you’re not, you recognize it, people that have it DO NOT, their jackasses) OR, you become obedient and “too nice” which is what happened to me. I was in the honors society, until 9th grade when I woke up and said f~~~ it, ditched school all the time! I would miss 24 days of school a year, my senior year I went to a vocational school and only had 3 classes in high school, and I f~~~ed those off too; didn’t give a s~~~ didn’t matter! so I enlisted into the USMC, I didn’t want to do it at all but I didn’t give a s~~~ (I had no intentions of joining the military, none) I went to bootcamp with hair down to my shoulders and ripped up jeans, didn’t give a s~~~. The whole 4 years in, I did NOT talk to family; infact they found me through red cross, so I got bitched out by the CO, but this was 29palms field radio school. when I got into the fleet, I didn’t talk to family period, they didn’t even know I deployed, didn’t give a s~~~. Now I really did make a mistake though, I hated the Marines so f~~~ing bad, it was not for me at all! I got selected as an RO for a security team(mwss unit) outside of the wire (fobbit most of the time) for 44days, and that was the best time I had in the USMC, they were not garrison at all…although it fueled me to NOT give 2 f~~~s at all…I was a PFC with this unit that I got sent to, and we just did 12 hour shift patrols around the AO maybe 4 miles or so, it wasn’t much, but it was right beside habbaniya city, and I would always…always take point! every f~~~ing patrol I took point, I lifted a dufflebag off the middle of the road with my rifle….I didn’t give a f~~~, I always did that s~~~…then I got sent to do vehicle checks and s~~~, didn’t give a s~~~, I never stayed in the hesko barriers i was always outside of them just walking around…so I got sent away for being too careless and never wearing my nightvision…I was told that I’m a weird f~~~er by my watch Cpl, so I got sent to another post and that was it. I wasn’t a s~~~bag got out as a Cpl.
I got pushed to NOT GIVE A F~~~! still am to this day, because I became the obedient nice guy BETA SIMP f~~~ face LOL
Dunno about you, but this actually p~~~es me off. Big time!
We live in a s~~~ty world where people starve to death, thirst to death, see their parents killed, are physically tortured in the most elaborate ways, are mutilated in work related accidents while just trying to make ends meet trying to get a roof to sleep under and some food in their belly.
In the middle of this, some self-centred A-hole has THE NERVE to feel sorry for himself that some makeup bimbo with a giant ego doesn’t fancy him! And yell to the entire world that he is in some way ENTITLED to attraction from females, which is pretty much what we dislike about females…
No, sorry, I just cannot relate to the lay-down-and-die mentality, not when it comes to hardships in general and ABSOLUTELY NOT when it comes to females!
In the middle of this, some self-centred A-hole has THE NERVE to feel sorry for himself that some makeup bimbo with a giant ego doesn’t fancy him! And yell to the entire world that he is in some way ENTITLED to attraction from females, which is pretty much what we dislike about females…
Sounds like you mean me.
In the middle of this, some self-centred A-hole has THE NERVE to feel sorry for himself that some makeup bimbo with a giant ego doesn’t fancy him! And yell to the entire world that he is in some way ENTITLED to attraction from females, which is pretty much what we dislike about females…
Sounds like you mean me.
No. Actually I don’t. You seem like you have a wish to analyze your problems, flaws and situation and try to do something about it. Am I wrong?
What I’m talking about is the people that wallow in their own misery and self pity. That actively rejects constructive ideas simply because their self pity is all they built their existence around and if that fall they have absolutely nothing. Would you say you belong to this latter group? That’s not my notion, but then again; you know yourself better than I do so you be the judge.
PS: I don’t really like this whole greek alphabet thingy that has gotten so popular lately (only thing I hate more is this damn 10-grade esthetical scale that breaths puberty all around it), but if I were -forced- to find my place in it I would say sigma is closest which perhaps is a clue as to why I don’t really relate to this alpha vs beta BS.
No. Actually I don’t. You seem like you have a wish to analyze your problems, flaws and situation and try to do something about it. Am I wrong?
I see what you mean then. I thought you meant me. You’re right. I try to change and improve myself. I analyze my problems. This is why this author was so upsetting to me. Just completely labeled us men who’ve suffered so much.
It was being lumped in with these other men who are more than just screwed over in life, but are narcissistic. The way the author puts it though, he makes me sound dangerous and crazy, hopeless, and that the issues that so many men like me have faced do not deserve any sort of consideration or concern.
I went on a tirade about my life’s misfortunes so when you said that, I was thinking your were commenting on that. I am certainly frustrated that I’ve done pitifully in the dating arena, although here that kind of sentiment would be dismissed as unnecessary. It is MGTOW. That was the main issue too, being routinely rejected by women no matter what. It does further frustrate me that women go for money and power, or just easily controlled men. I can’t be easily controlled (even in my blue pill days) and I do not value money or power, but rather knowledge, wisdom, and just being a generally good f~~~ing person.
I see what you mean then. I thought you meant me. You’re right. I try to change and improve myself. I analyze my problems. This is why this author was so upsetting to me. Just completely labeled us men who’ve suffered so much. It was being lumped in with these other men who are more than just screwed over in life, but are narcissistic. The way the author puts it though, he makes me sound dangerous and crazy, hopeless, and that the issues that so many men like me have faced do not deserve any sort of consideration or concern. I went on a tirade about my life’s misfortunes so when you said that, I was thinking your were commenting on that. I am certainly frustrated that I’ve done pitifully in the dating arena, although here that kind of sentiment would be dismissed as unnecessary. It is MGTOW. That was the main issue too, being routinely rejected by women no matter what. It does further frustrate me that women go for money and power, or just easily controlled men. I can’t be easily controlled (even in my blue pill days) and I do not value money or power, but rather knowledge, wisdom, and just being a generally good f~~~ing person.
Well, I’m no big Casanova myself who got any girl he wanted, but I had my share, even got a few that I really wanted, so maybe I cannot see the plight of being rejected in a higher degree (though I had my fair share of that also). In that manner I don’t wish to come with an von-oben perspective, and I try to be humble. The problem with rejection from an object of desire (make note that I don’t make a difference between men or female, straight or gay here since the negative feelings are the same) is that it hits YOU. As a person. It basically says: “I don’t want you because I AM better and I can GET better!”. Of course that hurts, and anyone would have the right to feel hurt. But feeling hurt for a while and then improving is good, it is what made us as a species evolve, getting that feeling and liking it so much you turn masochist and refuse to let go of it? Now that is dangerous and destructive.
Only you can decide where you go from here. This is no PUA nonsense, I seriously recommend you drop the whole female aspect of things, and I don’t just say that as this is MGTOW, but I would like for you to think about how you would like to see yourself in third person. Not for any potential benefits regarding to sex, but how would you like to live and look to wake up in the morning, looking at the mirror saying “Darn I’m good today!” and walk to work/studies/whatever with bounce in your steps no matter if one single female looked at you?
What a good post, and I was taken back to my own childhood problems. My father was very narcissistic and my mom was co dependent on him and backed him in everything. He physically and verbally abused me for years, I have physical and emotional scars that may never heal. I was the scapegoat and everything I did ended in failure and disappointment to my dad. My self esteem was destroyed and I joined the military at 22 and never came back to my family, who all have estranged me since. I am almost homeless and currently unemployed. I am a lost boy. I too have acquired a lot of radical beliefs that are anti government, but I make no apologies, the system is very cruel to men and it pampers women. I am struggling in the quagmire that is the beta male experience, I am on my way to be an Alpha but its slow going, its been years and years of programming by my family. I am so thankful for this site
And the cycle turns. Turns out this is what happens to us. We become the meat to be ground in the Great Soylent Green.
You kick the s~~~ out of the bully, you don’t write FB posts crying about your treatment. F~~~ the school system.
Ironically in this day and age, getting kicked out of school for fighting may very well lead to a better job than doing the conformist college route. Learn a trade and don’t pay any tuition.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.Sorry, but I have to disagree and blame the victim.
When a woman dresses up like a whore, gets drunk and wakes up next to a mangina and cries rape… Who’s fault is it?
When you get bullied its more or less the same; you stand up for yourself and it goes away. However when it comes to the level you delt with… It’s still your fault; albeit to a lesser degree. These whole avoidance of responsiblility cards that people keep playing, especially women, is what keeps making the world into the s~~~ hole it is today. If the victims don’t fight, then nobody notices and nothing gets changed. If nothing gets changed than you didn’t fight hard enough!
<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>As The saying goes the world isn’t fair.</span>
I’m coming from a similar childhood / adolescents the difference being the home environment. It’s my fault for not saying “f~~~ the system, f~~~ highschool, I’m dropping out.” I didn’t get the b~~~~ to dropout till post secondary when it turned out to be just as pathetic as highschool rather than the promised “better”. That’s my fault; I could of dropped out earlier and be that much closer to retirement; maybe 25 instead of 30.
In regards to the article… All I see is a dumbass mangina trying to avoid accepting that the reason as to why there are so many going postel, which is cause of all of this feministic oppression. Heck even I was on the verge of going postel a couple of times and grabbing a gun from a cop and shooting up the place. But as I said, its our fault and societies for not stopping it before it got to that point.
My Goal: To Leave Society.
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