Beta Male Orbiters Of MGTOW

[Seph N HavenParticipant 42]

[Anonymous 1]

Wow, a lot ofTradCon talk on this one.
So you are pretty much saying that the worth of a man is on how many “females” are atracted to him? And that if not you are a “beta male”?
Not interested of being an “alpha” male, or “beta” male.

I rather be me.

Cheers.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Over think

[The Long WalkParticipant 1282]

Beta.. mgtow..? Riiiight.

From where I’m sitting, a MGHOW is a free agent, able to act in his own interests unhindered by any value system females impose upon him. What you seem to be talking about reminds me of this ‘check your privilege’ BS you hear feminists ramble on about, like a man has to perpetually audit himself to check he qualifies to even say hello to a woman.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Not interested of being an “alpha” male, or “beta” male

Ditto.
Didnt even watch the video.

“Alpha male/beta male” is just another way to say ‘man up’. Ive never been interested in these juvenile categories.

What happens when a bunch of “alpha males” go out for drinks together? How do you decide whose “alpha”? The entire notion has always been ridiculous to me.

Ill stick with me being me and not living “up to” or “down to” these ridiculous notions.

Btw what kind of self respecting intellectual man thinks in these terms? What are we 10 years old? …”Im an ALPHA!”…wtf, that is just ridiculous.

Beyond immaturity, lack of intelligence, it also shows what your bringing to the table when you talk to women: “ya, Im the super hero, macho man that youve been told you DESERVE since you were a toddler reading cinderella”.

This entire line of thought is SO, SO skewed and immature that I wont even befriend guys who think/talk in this manner.

“Im alpha male bra!!!”

F~~~ off

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Just listened to the first two minutes of video. Cant stand anymore… Heres the dilemna: if the speaker, or anyone, is such an “alpha male” why do alpha males need TIPS on how to attract women? If your truly “alpha” then do your own s~~~ and the rest will follow suit. But its NEVER left like that. Its juvenille, stupid videos like this that TELL you “what alpha males do and why it works”.

F~~~ that. Ill do my own s~~~ and IT WILL WORK.

Any guy who subscribes to this alpha/beta s~~~ loses my respect. And if a girl talks about it, its even worse. Its SO, So, pathetic.

Resident cynic.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Marketing scam? Wishful thinking? Delusional ranting and raving?

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Not being defined by your interaction with women is what seems MGTOW to me. Those who are defined by their success at seducing women are always willing to use shaming tactics when their behavior is shown to truly be a greater advantage for women and not them.

Every woman has her price, and if you can pay it then you can seal the deal.

They dedicate a ton of time for the acquisition of resources (car, clothes, etc.), merely for minutes of sex.

Alpha and beta are terms that I don’t see fitting all that well with MGTOW.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Anonymous 5]

Being a PUA is simply some type of over-compensation.
It’s all about having a higher score than the men around them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,”I’m better than you!!!”
Their ego’s and self worth are dependant on it. Their lives and resources are centred around it. They’ll bore you to death with it.

Just act as genuinely amazed as you can when they embellish their exploits because they’re really trying to impress you.
Realize that at some critical stage in their lives someone probably teased them about not being man enough, or something like that.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

He’s wrong on quite a few points. Sounds more like a fellow educated in the PUA camp who uses MGTOW label to shore up his Alphanesssssss.

He’s telling other men how to behave, and what is normal behavior, and adding a layer of shaming (“socially awkward”) to drive it all home.

Thanks for the pep talk, but I am not on your team, dude. In one ear and out the other. Not sure I’m going to give this Seph N any more of my time…and it is my FREEDOM to decide that for myself.

BVC

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[Anonymous 11]

This video is a load.

First of all this alpha thing of which you speak needs to be addressed. Yes, there are men who attract women like flies to s~~~. The ones I know are very miserable and are never satisfied with their lives. The woman these obsessive control freaks will attract tend to be of low self-esteem who will willingly sign on to her course of destruction. I have no f~~~s to give. I will be myself.

Yes, there are pathetic orbiters. Certain guys will chase after women who will extract from them whatever resource she needs for her manipulations. It could be making you bad ass “alpha” males dance to her tune via your jealousy and internal insecurities. I love watching women cunningly manipulate their “alphas” while the “alphas” dominate them. “Alphas” need to be validated by women. I don’t give a f~~~ about female validation.

As for your views, I will strike up a conversation with any damn random person I feel like be it man or woman. I don’t give a f~~~ if some dysfunctional bitch’s “alpha” has forbade her to do it. I have a female friend whose abusive “alpha” absolutely hates that she speaks to me. To my face he won’t say a damn thing yet he goes after her for it. She sneaks behind his back to speak with me so don’t ever think your orders are being obeyed. This has been going on for years. I have no interest in her. We just have a bond between us due to having known each other so long. She’s the albatross around his neck not mine.

Wasting your time bossing pathetic women around and acting like a general dickhead does not seem very top c~~~ of the rock to me. Yes, I will grant you a number of women with various issues will respond to it. So enjoy the myriad problems they bring into your life.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

This is Men Going Their Own Way.
# of women f~~~ed is irrelevant.
Alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon,…, omega…. You go girls boys!
Good luck with that!

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

That fellow clearly does not understand MGTOW.

Just another idiot trying to co-opt MGTOW to whatever they think it should be.

[I_Walk_AloneParticipant 580]

Haven’t even watched it, but I can hazard a guess as to its content…..”Y U NO PUSSYBEGGING? R U GAY?”

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Burgundy wrote:

That fellow clearly does not understand MGTOW.
Just another idiot trying to co-opt MGTOW to whatever they think it should be.

I am thinking I may need to step up when I make a video on co-opting MGTOW. I believe every MGTOW co-opts MGTOW for whatever purposes he so desires it to be. It goes with going his own way. Now, whether or not others agree with this, is another issue. What I take from the video is that if one is going to say one can be MGTOW and PUA, and MGTOW and whatever, then this would fit. The pill here would be more blue than red. I personally don’t see too many men who go MGTOW actually doing orbiting around women, or even trying to act to get a woman. I don’t see why a man couldn’t say hello to strangers and so on, and be social. If it is his way to be social, it is his way to be social.

Edit: And that part, after 4 minutes in, about having a girlfriend and keeping her in line, really doesn’t look MGTOW to me at all. It does look like very much alpha chat, complete with MOW part of MGTOW only. Watching the full video, I do seriously question here also if MGTOW is not being understood. I do say that with much reservation. But, each life is his own. For myself, I have little use for what was in that video, on SO many levels. I guess maybe I go MGTOW, because I don’t want to have a woman under lock and key that would prevent her from talking to other men, because I don’t have this level of insecurity. I don’t need a woman to orbit me, to get meaning. This video really shows me why MGTOW may be more of a fit, because it isn’t of interest to me at all. But, it may be for others.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[RebalancedParticipant 346]

So called alphas aren’t the top dogs they think they are, they are insecure, me, me, me attention whores in my experience.

Real bad boys move in silence.

I don't need pussy

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I thought that according to feminists we are gay, have been hurt by women, and never get out of our parent’s basement. So, I guess I’m the alpha of the basement????

MOM, GET OUTTA HERE, I’M TALKING TO MY FRIENDS!!!!

Order the good wine

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Rebalanced wrote:

So called alphas aren’t the top dogs they think they are, they are insecure, me, me, me attention whores in my experience.
Real bad boys move in silence.

I would say Blue Pill thinking has a need for structures and ranking, so that a man knows where he fits, because he can’t figure things out without it. I say this as a norm. So, the moment Alpha, Beta, etc.. comes out, I think “Blue Pill”. My Own Way doesn’t have such a structure, because I don’t believe in getting what I want in life at the expense of others is necessary.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Seph N HavenParticipant 42]

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