Beta Male Bullies

[peterfaParticipant 833]

I can’t remember exactly who it was, but a MGTOW on Youtube made an interesting point that men need to stop stepping all over each other. I did some self-reflection because I’m certainly guilty of this. I’ve some things that I feel pretty ashamed of doing. I’m embarrassed I gave myself permission to boost my own ego at the expense of other men, even after I went through some of the crap I put them through.

Mostly, I feel guilty about blaming these geeks and nerds for  their hardships by looking down at them. It was definitely with the interest female approval.

Speaking of the things that other men have done to me, I realize something, that some Beta Men can be some of the most dangerous and terrible people. Alpha males will be jerks, but generally if you stand up to them, they back off. I once made a weight-lifter, easily twice my size but all muscle, back down (he didn’t want to look bad, should I last longer than 20 seconds against him). He left me alone after that.

What I notice though is that some Beta Males are absolutely horrendous morally. I’ve been bullied by many of them. I’ve been bullied by teachers and staff. I suspect that they’re trying to pick on the boy who doesn’t get girl attention (I was a late bloomer, very skinny and short). Being the victim of a teacher bully, a dysfunctional school system, an a family that didn’t care, I went through hell.

The omega men, however, get through it, and some of them can be jerks, but mainly they’ll just make a lot of money, or crash into drugs. Still, don’t mess with them because hackers become from them.

Beta Males tend to be manipulative and judgmental, when they get married and have children. Most of the trouble I’ve face wasn’t Alpha men, but Beta men.

Do you experience this as well?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Beta Males tend to be manipulative and judgmental…

Yep! It’s an interesting quirk of psychology, isn’t it?

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[John DoeParticipant 743]

Brotherhood is a sacred bond.  People forget that Feminism destroyed this.  Anti-feminists focus on marriage, but forget about this.  That is part of the reason “bullying” is on the increase.

In regards to my personal experience, no.

The omega men, however, get through it, and some of them can be jerks, but mainly they’ll just make a lot of money, or crash into drugs. Still, don’t mess with them because hackers become from them.

I can relate to this somewhat.  I don’t/didn’t have an issue with bullying because I would savagely dish it back ten fold.  Hurting people physically or intellectually never bothered me.  I have ripped a guys ligaments in his knee during a wrestling match, when I was twenty one.  No bothered conscience, just a sense of “winning”.  I would humiliate professors in front of their own classes out of boredom.  Those things never bothered conscience, just gave me a sense of victory.  I was an “omega” asshole.

Is it right?  No.  Do I condone it?  Hell no, what I did was ethically and morally wrong even though I might “feel” otherwise.  Humility is not my strong point.   I have sociopathic tendencies, that is my cross to bear.  My point is, using myself as an example, is that people only act like assholes until they meet a bigger one.  Their is always a bigger fish.

Back in the days when men would be able to defend themselves only the bullies picked on the weak.  Now they can pick on anyone, because they know no one will respond for fear of ruining their future.

[Anonymous 42]

John Doe wrote:

I can relate to this somewhat. I don’t/didn’t have an issue with bullying because I would savagely dish it back ten fold. Hurting people physically or intellectually never bothered me******* Humility is not my strong point.   I have sociopathic tendencies, that is my cross to bear.

Hey John Doe, we’re allot alike, I once smashed a guy into a tree repeatedly, I have a history of spontaneous psychopathic violence, I don’t feel there pain, and never felt remorse, they all deserved it, they had it coming to them. I have NEVER started a fight in my life.

I stopped a guy from getting killed by a gang that was kicking his head in, in that case I felt compassion for the guy, I just yelled “stop, you’re gonna kill him”, and risked a severe beating by getting my self involved. So I know at least I have some compassion, but not much. Humility is something I worked on vigorously over many years, I practiced eating humble pie, I let strangers verbally abuse me now, throw the finger, cut me off, be all assholly about whatever. I practiced humility cause I know I can kill somebody in a rage. I’m not proud of it, I’m afraid of it, and knowing how to disable and kill, makes it even worse if I were to lose control.

 

Rage is like owning a nuclear weapon, you drop it only when your life is truly endangered. I grew up in neighborhood fight club. Because I was shorter than most, I was pushed allot more, and allot harder, that made me absolutely vicious by the 9th grade, I got a reputation for being nuts.

I had a car full of Puerto Ricans ARMED chase me through the streets of Springfield looking for a clear shot, I was lucky to loose them, 3 f~~~ing times, my side kick was white as a ghost, where the f~~~ is a cop when you need one?

I wish I grew up on a farm, or someplace remote, no wonder I love the wilderness…

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Humility is something I worked on vigorously over many years, I practiced eating humble pie, I let strangers verbally abuse me now, throw the finger, cut me off, be all assholly about whatever.

I try to practice forgiveness more and acknowledge that people don’t know what they are doing just like me.   Everyone walks through this life borderline clueless.  Some know more than others, but in the scheme of things it is nothing.  None of us really knows what we are doing.  Even the wisest among us.

That and chopping down a 50 foot tree, then chopping it into mulch.  Fortunately I grew up in the rural areas.  I would of killed it as a lumberjack a 1oo years ago.  Too bad I can’t get paid for using an axe.

If I was raised in the city….. ehh.  I would either be dead or in charge of everything.  No middle ground.

Those gang kids deserve justice, but at the same time a loving home.  They have my pity.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

Well, I was referring to the deal where Betas tend to bully out of serving their females. I see several different examples: pandering to the adorable little girl, like the Teacher’s Pet or Daddy’s Little Girl; or the White Knights in Waiting. There’s also the Charles Les Schwab Future Employees, and by that I mean the jocks who pick on the other kids, usually the ones the girls don’t like. There’s a bit of this in the rank and file kids too. There’s a lot of abuse it seems that’s focused around impressing girls by humiliating another boy, even if you’re not sexually interested in that girl.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Pussy beggars are betas you definitely have to lookout for. Once the sex drive kicks in the rational mind diminishes and thus the likelihood of stabbing someone in the back without feeling remorse increases.

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

peterfa wrote:

Do you experience this as well?

In my experience even the most seemingly “alpha bro” really isn’t when you get down to business. I knew one rich head of a company who did lots of pea-c~~~ing and thinking he’s “alpha”, but he had to pay women just to spend time with him. He always had a paid girlfriend even at lunch. He looked like the-artist-formerly-known-as-Prince , except with no talent, just gobs of money, and everywhere he went he paid for sex and female companionship.

The more I observed, the more I realized he was the most sad and pathetic “beta”. And even when it came time to sparring and ramming horns, he couldn’t hold his own.

We was so WEAK and whipped, he took 8 of us out for a working business lunch, and when his paid whore of a “girlfriend” said “I don’t like that place and don’t feel like eating X” he directed the car and all of us across down in another direction just to appease this bitch.

An “alpha” would say “You’ll eat what I feed you, and like it”….. but he’s like “OK baby whatever you want”.

Made me SICK.

So alpha / beta / shmeta / potata….

Beta Male Bullies

He would fire loyal long time workers who would speak up – like he was threatened by a mere conflicting opinion – he treated people like objects. I have known several “pretend alphas” like this and they are like little 5 year olds with boxing gloves that are too big for their hands.

Another classic married friend of mine was as real pea-c~~~ing “bully” (with his dialogue), but he was his wife’s finger puppet, and had her fist rammed so far up his ass he couldn’t even hear himself or think straight anymore.

Then there is another total PSYCHO who I called a “friend” for 4 years and hung out with often. He’s what I would call psychologically dangerous to be around, and I won’t even associate with him anymore. Gas-lighting. HUGE manipulator. Puts words in people’s mouths. Makes up s~~~ in his own head before ASKING. A complete textbook sociopath.

Then 3 guys I worked with in the last 5 years who were such control freaks I don’t even want to get into it.

And another who I met recently , within 6 hours of working with him on the first day, his personality did a 180 degree flip right in front of me. I called him out on it too, and even the woman in the room said “WTF is wrong with you?”. Between 2PM and 4PM he turned into a totally different person. He was the most unstable person I can recall meeting and by 5PM I decided never to speak to him again.

Christ, I could go on….

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[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

John Doe wrote:

Humility is something I worked on vigorously over many years, I practiced eating humble pie, I let strangers verbally abuse me now, throw the finger, cut me off, be all assholly about whatever.

My company is one the the very few that actually cares about it’s employees. All employees are required to take Emotional Intelligence. Like me, a lot of us were resistant to being told how to think. In the end it has been one the best transformations I have seen. The workforce is 100% more friendly and stress is way down. I stay on Facebook because the s~~~ there doesn’t bother me anymore. I will stand my ground when I need to, but like you eluded to, I let ppl be dicks and that’s their problem. I highly recommend as a MGTOW looking into it for self improvement and better self-governing; since our backs are pushed against the wall every so often by shamers and AWALTs, it’s nice to have skills to deal with it.

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[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

The term “beta male” is hard to define. I’m going to assume you are talking about men who have no sense of brotherhood and derive all their emotional support from females.

Yeah … I hate them too. They’re mad because they see men having fun and partying together. They can never have fun at these parties because they’re oversensitive buzzkills … so they convince themselves “These men are obviously rapists.”

They spend the rest of their lives lashing out at free men while they cling to feminists. It’s a sad sight to see.

Nietzsche was right when he said that harm often comes to the strong from the weak.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

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