Being "chipped" after the War

[John DoeParticipant 743]

I have noticed, in some of the my readings, the pattern of changing economic systems centered around conflicts. This is obvious, I am not saying anything most basic students of history don’t already know.

The American Civil War brought to full force the power of industrialized economies. The “mechanized” economy of the Union

World War 1 eliminated the last remaining power of “Czars” and “Imperial” Kings and brought forth fascism. Due to advancements in production at a ground level, the people no longer felt the need for a “nobility”.

World War 2 enabled capitalism and communism to be predominant philosophies and further spread through nuclear weapons and energy.

World War 3 (assuming we are either starting and/or are in it) I believe will introduce a new economic system where we will see people beginning to be chipped for basic transactions. With the way ISIS is fighting, one does not know who or what the enemy is and whether or not they are being funded. The ensuing chaos will open up a mentality where people will want to be “chipped” to easily determine who is
an “enemy” of the state or not. Whoever the corporate state deems unworthy will be rejected from making any transactions and left to die in poverty.

With the move towards a cashless society, technology (iphones/etc.) always at our finger tips, the general “chaos”, and companies in countries such as finland (if I remember correctly, just google it) installing RFID chips that enable employees to enter the worksite, use company equipment, pay for food, etc. I believe, rather I am predicting, that within 5-10 years we will see society integrating RFID chips into the population in one form or another at a large scale.

This will probably begin at larger companies, such as Google or Walmart, and eventually work its way into everyday life.

So what are your thoughts?

Oh, and one other thing, I don’t want this to be a “religious argument thread”, because I am taking a viewpoint from the perspective of a common man. Regardless of one’s viewpoint Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Athiest, Agnostic, etc I believe from the perspective of simple economics and human nature this is unavoidable and people will eventually start being chipped like “cattle”. This is a human problem.

[Anonymous 24]

Nato nation funding ISIS-
https://www.rt.com/news/341317-isis-oil-profit-rt-documentary/

[Anonymous 42]

Hi JD, good to see ya! Chips are the future for a one world government, No more shifting monetary exchange rates, baseline pay, medical, housing, everything contained within a chip.

Automatic criminal scanning to nullify any transaction while simultaneously alerting the authorities and having you electronically disabled.

At some point there will be no living human being without a chip in it, that’s right; IT The whole human experience will be relegated to being a living gear in a political machine… People will become nothing more than livestock of the state…

[RoyDalParticipant]

I am afraid you’re right. There is always somebody who wants us to sacrifice ourselves for their cause. If they have the means, then they will try to force us under their thumbs.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 3]

I totally see what you mean. It is happening now. They do not even have to put a chip in anyone yet, we have the:
– known social sites, that is filled up with data voluntarily by almost all people

– they can see all financial data of anyone back to many years (if they ask the bank for it)

– they access all of our phone calls and internet stuff,mobile phone location (at least block level, but phone GPS maybe accessed too) and sometimes even the contents of the phone and computer (as software is written by humans and is possibly full of hack-able errors, or intentional back-doors)

-there are chips in the cars since 1990, and they are planned to become tracking devices and will be used to disable stolen cars or the cars they want to stop in a police chase. They will know the location and time, like being in front of a speed camera 100% of time. At least, if an accident happens, there will be no doubt who was speeding and breaking rules, but this is another dangerous mass surveillance and who knows what they do with that data..

-All the ad-supported “free” stuff on the internet is tracking people with cookies and other technologies, collecting too much data, and giving out data to authorities, criminals, spammers, whoever possibly.

-Apps for phones have excessive amount of permissions, not explained why. a simple flashlight (or whatever app you may expect as innocent) can be a spyware. Even system components like Google Play service and their apps can be likely to spyware, they upload all your contacts, location, sms, whatever to “the cloud” without asking if you want. (Once I noticed the list of all my phone numbers in Hangouts app, and it didn’t ask me if I want to use that app for calls and messages instead of the built-in apps, and whether I want to show all my contacts to the people browsing the mysterious “cloud”. I just wanted to chat with a girlfriend who I chatted with in the regular browser window on PC and had the Gmail address of her) Where is the “cloud” exactly and who can access the data for what reasons? …

-A lot of workplace uses RFID keys now. it is not new. You do not want random people (from street or inside) accessing your private financial data at the HR office, or the HR people to walk around some dangerous big machines (uneducated on work safety of those) and so on. And it is easily configured, and you do not have to replace many locks and keys if someone loses his key chain. It also can make work time logging easier in theory, at my workplace they just do not care when you work while the work is well done, and some parts still just have regular keys. Although it cannot stop the HR girls smile at you knowing how much you make… Or they are like this to everyone, I don’t know.

I totally agree to call nowadays as “World war 3”. But it is totally not like the first 2 world wars. now, there are and were many different conflicts at a lot of places among lot of entities (countries, organizations, and whatever)(I mean military shooting battles and legal battles and any fight among those entities), and terrorism and organized crime is just everywhere. If one conflict is “solved” then another two may be created. Yes it is sort of chaos.

The “chipping” can obviously reduce simple everyday crime, but will be useless against highly organized crime groups, and authoritarian oppressive governments will extensively use it in order to (literally or other way) kill their political enemies. This is my main concern about all of this, an oppressive government in the future will have so extreme power, that all the known evil s~~~s of the human history would be envious on it. And this is why everyone needs to fight back, until we can. At least today we still have relatively free speech to dislike and discuss it.

And the typical argument of “most people have nothing to hide” is false, even law-abiding people might have done, or think, a lot of legal but unethical or politically incorrect things, or looked up some weird but legal porn fetish on the net, that can be used to publicly embarrass and annoy them, known as “character kill”, and involve them in expensive legal battles they cannot afford, drain their money that way…. This type of attack does not even need you to do anything illegal, am alleged crime or scandal or a politically incorrect statement in public will do.

How to fight back? Care for privacy every time as much as you can. Even in your offline life. If they do not know your weaknesses, they cannot attack or embarrass you. Do not talk bad stuff on the phone, you may get recorded. (I have set auto-recording on my phone when breaking up with ex, and sound recorder app at hand, because I was afraid of what that emotional bitch might do. And also useful, if my coffee was a placebo and I do not remember what someone told me minutes ago.)

[HitmanParticipant]

if money is all electronically transferred via a chip,
how will the lobbyists bribe senators without a briefcase full of CASH ?
i have great faith in the power of human GREED .
if a chip interferes with money going into the “right ” pockets,
i don’t think the chip will work.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Anonymous wrote:

Hi JD, good to see ya! Chips are the future for a one world government, No more shifting monetary exchange rates, baseline pay, medical, housing, everything contained within a chip.

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You to Tower, along with everyone else here. What I will be interested to see is the “lifestyles” of those who refuse the chip. Will they (we) be rounded up and imprisoned/tortured/killed? Will they (we) be left in the streets/remaining wilderness to forage for whatever is available? That is the question I want to know. Also if one owns property, how will they pay their taxes? You see where I am going.

Now there are some sociologists, I cannot remember the names or the studies but you can google them, that pointed out along with a neo-feudal system (state corporate powers in control as kings) will also be a reemergence of “neo-tribalism” where people will band together (like gangs but not limited to young men only) to survive. Is that the future? Will these tribes be allowed to survive on their own without a chip? Or will they be squashed? There is a whole host of questions to be answered.

RoyDal wrote:

I am afraid you’re right. There is always somebody who wants us to sacrifice ourselves for their cause. If they have the means, then they will try to force us under their thumbs.

I agree and with the digitization of everything, which reduces life to nothing but a cheap commodity/sensory experience, the younger generations (maybe mine too) will not think twice about taking a chip or contemplate the gross violation of human dignity that occurs.

Anonymous wrote:

Apps for phones have excessive amount of permissions, not explained why.

You hit a critical point which should be expanded further on a more abstract level, with the general secular/economic/religious/cultural/etc. confusion out there people will be more than happen just to “sign on” to whatever will alleviate the “chaos”.

Anonymous wrote:

A lot of workplace uses RFID keys now

Try the skin:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31042477

Anonymous wrote:

Yes it is sort of chaos.

With the advance weaponry, it almost has to be fought as a small level until somebody flips the f~~~ out and launches a nuke.

Hitman wrote:

if money is all electronically transferred via a chip,
how will the lobbyists bribe senators without a briefcase full of CASH ?

There is always a bigger greedier fish. Not to get too far off topic, but with the promotion of Trump and Sanders one can obviously see a push past the senatorial system of old and right to the people who a quire the money on their own terms. It is like getting rid of the senate, because it takes bribes, and hiring the people who gave them the bribes.

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