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Throughout my entire life I have been constantly told to meet-up and socialize with new people. As if, I am missing out on something fantastic the average person can offer. When I told my parents, my peers, my friends that I would rather focus on myself I was almost always met with disdain, sometimes someone would say that I don’t want to be lonely. I have never struggled to make friends, but I have never wanted to hang out with my friends as often as most people.
As I have grown as a MGTOW, I have come to the realization that being ‘alone’ is actually being in a state of clarity and solitude. I can focus on what is important to me instead of using my time and energy on other people.
I still see my friends on a regular basis. But, due to them ‘growing up’ and being ‘responsible’ we have grown further apart. Dead-end jobs, wives, children all have more importance than themselves.
I was expecting to experience some sort of depressive state as is said to be the case when losing friends, yet I find myself more invigorated than ever. Not only because I have more time to focus on myself but also because the friends I still have are much more compatible with me.
As you develope Insight into whatever specific interests you have , you’ll go on a journey far beyond the average ignorance of other peoples ” this is what you should be doing.” live your OWN life so you dont feel like youve wasted it. All within reason.
Unless you want to end up divorced like your friends will be stick to your guns.

Anonymous18There are generally two broad categories of relationships or friendships a man can have with a woman-
One on her terms.
Other on your terms.
In principle they are mutually exclusive.
Very seldom when a woman is involved would you find s~~~ on your terms unless you are the Chad.
Sadly in a ‘loving’ relationship it has been normalized for men to give up their autonomy as a universally accepted requirement for good bf or husband title.
Most married men are far lonelier than single men.
The silver lining is that this awareness that has been slow in rising will be here to stay.
Women are coming to terms with 40% discounts deals (at men’s emotional and financial expense) to be expiring before they expire (hit the Wall®).

Anonymous42I’ve got news for everyone! Until someone or something crawls up inside you, you’re ALONE!
Personally? I wouldn’t have it any other way!
Marriage and bachelorhood are like comparing communism and capitalism without noting whether the academic idealized version is being discussed, or the actual, in life system.
When one insists on identifying this, clarity comes.
“Alone-actual”, may not be great compared to the “married-idealized”. However, when you insist on comparing “alone-actual” to “married-actual”, the LAYDEEZ lose, big time.
Of course this Does not include the first year, but the many years afterward, both married and divorced slaughtered/recovering.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

Anonymous2Being alone doent mean you’re lonely. I love solitude. I have a few good friends. If I want good conversation ill go to my favorite diner and listen to the older guys talk. Lots of wisdom.
You are never so alone as when you are outside the house you pay for, filled with people you love and support, and know they f~~~ing hate you.
Good for you, trader. Don’t let anyone convince you otherwise. I wish I had your clarity of mind in my youth.
Su Yen Lu: To be alone, without one to love, is a waste of the body. To be not alone, without one to love, is a waste of the soul.
Everything has a price. As the saying goes: no such thing as a free lunch. Let’s say a man somehow finds the elusive unicorn and let’s say incredibly she never changes (physically she ages but holds up well). As a man you are still giving up sovereignty over your own decisions, finances, future plans and the list goes on.
I know a guy that met a pretty woman from a small country in Central Asia. He’s been with her for almost 3 years and per him so far so good. He’s not a good bulls~~~ter so I take him at his word. The thing is he has lost most of the autonomy over his life. He gets more sex than he wants, she does things he wants to do most of the time. But he tells me he misses his alone time and solitude. It is impossible to be sovereign over your life, I tell him, atttached to another. I wish them well but I’m also a realist and know his situation is as rare as a four leaf clover.
Anonymous5Nothing is more Taboo to a the “average person” (i.e blue kool-aid via forced down the the mouth) than a being that has evolved out side the prescribed “norms” -that feeling of loss- sexual intensity all can be controlled. You are in control no-one has that ability. Alot is at stake if you throw away this gift- that you and you alone discovered.
alone? Meh. So what? If I want to see people, I know where to go. This planet only has over 7 billion of them on it, so it won’t be that hard to find a few. They’re going to have to find another stick to beat me with, because that one doesn’t hurt anymore.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

Anonymous5Nothing is more Taboo to a the “average person” (i.e blue kool-aid via forced down the mouth) than a being that has evolved out side the prescribed “norms” -that feeling of loss- sexual intensity all can be controlled. You are in control no-one has that ability. Alot is at stake if you throw away this gift- that you and you alone discovered.

Anonymous5It’s good to have solitude I sit in my basement and read books and I think alot.I have never had a close friendship with someone. I like it alone just you and your thoughts I had a brother that would always say you need to get out there and live life he’s was an extrovert . He couldn’t understand that in solitude you have piece of mind and freedom .
For many Men, being alone has NOTHING to do with being lonely.
This can’t be said about most Women.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

Anonymous5It’s good to have solitude I sit in my basement and read books and I think alot.I have never had a close friendship with someone. I like it alone just you and your thoughts I had a brother that would always say you need to get out there and live life he’s was an extrovert . He couldn’t understand that in solitude you have piece of mind and freedom .
As you may take am further in the stealth life style (money is not an issue for me- i could not work right now for 3 years if I wanted /but my job is great and work with some great guys, heck even my blue pill CEO is a funny guy who knows my track record for reliability we may started off bumpy but in recently in the last 2 years *cough after mgtow- we really hit it off and I can say alot more anyways: ) I choose to be alone. I was the polar opposite some time before all this. I challenged my thoughts and lusts to consume me – in isolation I wanted to feel that “depression” that drives one to such a level. Low and behold the complete opposite happened (life got better not any depression happenee / i did very peaceful things like go for walks in national parks – go to ancient Egypt museum, in fact I soon found out I was happy!!!) when I “cut that blue part out of my life” all it is now is my time for me. Is that selfish? -f~~~ I know exactly the type of person who would say that. BUT that information is for me- so no one knows. What am getting at is there is no bar in the grand scheme -the house on that hill with that family, ant my thing. I rather die alone with a big f~~~ing smile on face. Anyways dude good post got me thinking – and grateful for all you guys on The and “the” Mgtow let all of you live wonderful lives- on your own terms.

Anonymous0As you age, solitude becomes more and more important to you.
To say it in trader words:
if you want a “bullish” life then you have to go for it all by yourself.
Most “friends”, especially women will make your life “bearish”…
…no they are a deep red candle going south through all support lines…
Too bad you can’t “go short” on women and marriage. LOL.
A woman entering your life is coupled with incalculable volatility. Like the NFP in Forex trading. Or the “Swiss Franc” pegging that – as it was lifted – killed many FOREX brokers.
As a trader, you have to be alone and in focus or you will lose out. You can either have your focus on the screen and wait for 24 hours to reach the next “support or resistance” level or you follow the commands of a nagging bitch.
That’s a problem all sucessful traders have. Women (and friends) have no clue on what they are doing and they barge in right at the wrong time.
And if you were “in the center of public attention” for 18 years – like I was, because of my job – you enjoy every day of “lonliness”. Sleeping with the forex screen ticker next to the bed.
A woman would never let you read books on “Ichimoku” and the psychology behind it. And she would always nag if you watch any “Steve Nison Candlestick training” program.
That reminds me of women psychology: It is like chart reading. With the “sellout” being the divorce rape of the investors. Same thing.
Do yourself a favor. Stay alone and focused. That way you will never become “the typical face in the crowd” begging to keep the job he hates.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Just carry on carrying on bro. You’re on the correct path. It will all come into place.
Peace is > piece.
I am the same, alone for me is precious time where my energy levels are rising. Most people are f~~~ing vampires looking from introvert perspective. Extrovers would not be able to be alone and i pity them for this, but i have also learned to be brutally uncompromising when dealing with generic extrovert or lost plue pill cog in setting boundaries because they are not my problem. And in regards to their opinion, could not care less… I would be s~~~ scared if i would get along with generic blue pill indebted cog who follows mainstream media, mainstream “culture” and mainstream trends.
The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny
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