Because your a virgin…

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

Just occurred to me… When women say your a mgtow because your a virgin… it’s actually a complement!

Let’s break it down; What is it that guys value in a woman? Her virginity? Why? Because it shows that she’s not a slut(or less likely to be); and thus increasing the chances of a successful relationship. So, would it not make sense that men who are virgins are also more valued?

Based on male logic; would it not be better to say, “Your only a MGTOW because you slept with too many women?”
OH WAIT! But they can’t say that, because then they’d be admitting the truth about themselves!

So, if women were to use logic in their insults, they would never bring up virginity at all, because in both cases it backfires in their face.

That leaves us with, Why are women using this as an insult in the first place?

Because women rarely think; they rinse and repeat! They follow the herd; regardless of if its idiotic or not.
As a result; To them, anything that goes against the herd is horrific, and saying that they are going against the herd, is a grave insult!

SO! What this means, is that every time a chick says, “blah blah blah, because your [probably] a virgin,” she is really saying, “i’m a whore, and you should be like the rest of us”

With that in mind; i think the a good response would be, “Why are you trying so hard to turn me into a whore like yourself?”

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Based on why i valued virginity while growing up; not sure if everyone agrees, but i’m just assuming so based on historic culture.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I don’t think you are too far off base…if a girl has a significant number more partners than you have had she’ll try to make it like its your problem.  Its a coping mechanism.  They aren’t going to say “You’re my 18th c~~~…boy is my number really getting up there…I guess I’d qualify as a slut.”  Instead its “You’ve only been with 2 girls?  What are you a loser?”  The irony is I’m not bad looking, I have a good job, my own place, and a car…if all I wanted was pussy because a high number gives me status I could very easily run up my count chasing after desperate single moms and chubbies…but ultimately I feel that doing that is what would make me a loser.

I have kind of gone through life with the mentality that I should keep my number low, because ultimately if I do make the choice to keep a woman around for the long haul, I think her having a low number would be a desirable trait…more or less I thought if I was working on girl number 20 and found one that has only had one or two guys that I really liked, I would have thought she would have frowned upon my past, just like I try to avoid girls that are obvious sluts.  Are there women out there that work this way?  I don’t know…but considering I have never had to deal with an unwanted pregnancy, STD, or false sexual assault accusations, I don’t regret having passed up on a lot of low quality pussy over the years that would have caused me a lot more drama than it was worse.

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

Another good response for those of us who are not virgins:

I wished! Virgins have value.

Then watch the smoke emerge as she tries to process that.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I would never expect any woman to tell me truth about her dick count.
Likewise, I am not going to volunteer disclosing my vagina count to her. Because regardless of the number this puts you in a disadvantage
Trusting a woman about the number of guys is stupid. This is probably one single thing all of them lie most about

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Yup…but if you you have a low number, and her reaction is like “OMG THATS ALL?” its not very hard to figure out her number is obviously much, much higher regardless of what she might say.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Heh. Woman logic. Most MGTOW I know are Going Their Own Way specifically because they are NOT virgins. The worst blue pill fools I know are all virgins, because they don’t know what the f~~~ they’re getting themselves into. Literally.

Whoever said: “Familiarity breeds contempt.” was talking about women.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Virginity needs to get framed as something of value, rather than a curse to lose.  Overly sexualized society wants to frame everything in terms of sex (almost), and therefore have men valued by how many women they can bed and so on.  The whole alpha PUA, etc… mentality plays right into it.  And women men in advertising are an example of this.  It is pushing sex, and getting a woman, as part of a man supposedly proving himself to the world.  Look at all the movies also.  You can have a man of men, but he has to slip a woman love interest in there, just to validate his being a man.  If he doesn’t do that, he must be gay, right?

And I might as well post this video here, on how society oversexualizes things (context here is love).  I did this video, because the bulk of slurs thrown at MGTOW tend to be sexual in nature:

Male bonding?  Oh the world has to say that is GAY, unless a guy has a woman to validate things.  It is really, really, really pathetic.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 3]

When they’re post-wall they look to defile men that are virgins and ruin them. It’s absolutely disgusting that modern churches enable and encourage women to do so, as pure Christianity and the Lord’s direct instruction is to certainly not praise the sluttery and then defile good men. The churches are some of the biggest Satanists around these days.

These men that maintain their virginity and shrug off Western disgusting culture should be praised and upheld as an example. Dirty women should be kept far away, and instead chaste, good, believing women should be matches as a priority to these men.

But the problem today is most women are fallen. A lot more men have adhered to God’s word and rules.

Virginity is praised in religion and in most regions too outside of the West. It is a pure state. Something about fornication seems to degrade human beings. It reduces them to something worse than animals.

[EdogParticipant 254]

There’s a lot of factors. Too many to list. I can only really speak from my perspective. Since I’ve abstained from sex for many years now, it’s an intimidating trait to unveil to a female. You have to try and think emotionally and manipulatively like a female does. What’s her one main weapon? Her vagina. And what’s the man’s main weakness? His dick. And what have I already told her I have mastered? Yep. I mastered my dick and the sexual desires I have to lay with women, and therefor your vagina alone isn’t enough to entice me and ensnare me. If you want to be with me, you’re going to need to prove yourself to me with more than just giving me access to sex. You’ll need to show me you are actually a real person, and not some soulless void.

Now, how many women are willing to see this as a golden opportunity? NONE! That’s how many. What SHOULD be viewed as a chance to land a guy that “if” she could actually prove herself loyal and gain his trust, she’d in turn be earning one of the most loyal guys on the planet. But instead, this is viewed as a long term investment. She looks ahead and sees already that her emotional manipulations and childish temper tantrums won’t work on a guy like me. She’ll lose any logical discussion and she can’t use her vagina against me since I’ve displayed already for years upon years that I don’t need it anyway. So this whole thing, instead of being seen as a boon to the female, is actually discerned as a foreshadowing, and she will never like the challenges that would await with a guy who has full self control and cannot be manipulated.

Virgin or manwhore matters not. You can’t satisfy these women! They will find something wrong with their current circumstance based on selfish wants and obsessions. It’s like how we wonder what a black hole is. We have some ideas and theories, but in the end, we don’t know the power behind the force or what it’s capable of. We just know that you don’t want to go near the damn thing lest you be sucked in and find out what is in the abyss!

[v9wlmn8c1982Participant 83]

It just shows the stupidity of most people. If you think about it, most of the sex people have is kind of meaningless. The number 1 reason for sex is reproduction but in this crazy world that is considered the least reason to have sex. What we have now is people just doing it as way just to do something. Like these PUA’s who treat sex the same way an alcoholic treats beer and if any man doesn’t want to do what they do then he’s the weirdo and not them. There’s  a reason why sex is over promoted. If you keep the men occupied with sex they will put all their energy into that. Why you think boxers and other athletes go months without ejaculation? Because that energy stores up and can be used as motivation and sex is all about giving out energy. So many men just give all their energy trying to please women and these women will never be satisfied.

 

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

 What is it that guys value in a woman? Her virginity? Why? Because it shows that she’s not a slut(or less likely to be); and thus increasing the chances of a successful relationship.

Virgin men arent valued by women as much as virgin women are valued by men. I have zero illusions about this.

We operate on VASTLY different planes of thought. A man doesnt need the social verification from his peers to know hes attracted to a woman.

A woman DOES need the social proof of her peers to believe a man is of value.

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To directly address the line of thought in your rational here:

WE cannot play the same games as females. We are NOT the game players, and they have an entire LIFETIME, nay, CENTURIES of experience in game playing.

I believe in reciprocity, but any attempt to DIRECTLY turn the tables on women in games like this (men virgins are more valuable than female virgins) will fall upon deaf ears.

This isnt the stigma society has created, and I dont merely follow stigma, but females think differently than we do. Females NEED to know other people find you valuable, because they require societies approval.

Case in point: how many times have you heard a woman say that a man who possesses confidence is crucial? This is understanding, up to a point. But do you know how many douche bag, unintelligent losers I have met who exude “confidence”?

A woman has to be SOLD. Its pathetic. Most men who exude this “confidence” are either extremely young, or masking their own insecurities. Some mature women can distinguish this, but the fact that, that is requisite, tells you so much of their indescribable nature.

I have confidence. Its the kind of confidence that allows me to make self depreciating jokes. The kind of confidence that doesnt assume Im the smartest person in the room….Much of which is considered “confidence” is nothing more than insecurity wrapped in a double portion of keeping up with the Joneses.

Resident cynic.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

нσтησσв wrote:

What is it that guys value in a woman? Her virginity? Why? Because it shows that she’s not a slut

It’s exactly how I think. And why I value it. If a girl is also pretty and smart, I respect that.

And Why I still didn’t f~~~, because I still didn’t find one women I would with or cared to.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Virgin men arent valued by women as much as virgin women are valued by men. I have zero illusions about this.

Also agree. I hope you guys don’t mind that I just agree, Thumb Up and move along, when I have nothing to add or time to do it. Or Im drunk. Or all of the above.

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[BDParticipant 1146]

Edog wrote:

So this whole thing, instead of being seen as a boon to the female, is actually discerned as a foreshadowing, and she will never like the challenges that would await with a guy who has full self control and cannot be manipulated.

Great quote Edog!

Women use “virgin” in the male sense as a shaming word….

Theoretically, if you are a virgin, then you haven’t contributed your resources towards women to acquire sex, you are in effect, not playing their resource extraction game, suggesting without much doubt that you are Mgtow….  obviously women hate this….

Follow the cash with women…..

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[ApplejackSpectator 235]

I’m still a virgin because I CHOOSE to remain a virgin!  I wouldn’t stick my dick anywhere near a woman for a million dollars (because she’d steal it anyway).  Even if the chance of pregnancy was .0000000000001%, it’s still not worth the risk of ruining your entire life for a few moments of euphoria.  As far as I’m concerned, I’ll still be using my hand when I’m 80.

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