Backlash To " Safe Campus Act "

[Anonymous 29]

As some of you may know, Due process legislation ” Safe Campus Act ” Has been introduced to Congress on 29/7/2015
because of unfair kangaroo courts passing judgement on students without any legal support or official investigations (police) prior to judgement.
Safe Campus Act is supposed to eliminate this unlawful practice.

A feminist c~~~ did not waste time to retaliate ——— > [A woman named Sarah Merriman, identified by the Washington Post as a spokeswoman for SAFER Campus, has come out against the bill, which would provide badly needed due process protections for students accused of sexual assault. Ms. Merriman made it clear that she’s not interested in hearing about due process rights for the accused at this time:]

It is this type of a person that are socially and morally corrupt c~~~s that have built concetration camp’s in our world.
I am almost raging at the thought of “what the f~~~ is this person thinking of”?!

[RoyDalParticipant]

@DRS_au,
The key word is “thinking.” Whatever mental processes they employ, rational thought is not one of them.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[heads-upParticipant 320]

Anonymous wrote:

Ms. Merriman made it clear that she’s not interested in hearing about due process rights for the accused at this time:]

Now theres a big surprise ???
MsMerriman has an opinion………….f~~~ her and her backers………….wake up my black/white/latino brothers……..the board is set……..lets play???????

[chirParticipant]

Say hello to Sarah.

Here’s the SAFER Campus site. Appropriately in red and white for the communist quality programming. From their website you would think that a woman is raped every millisecond of every day and all men are nothing but rape machines.
They seem to deny that women like to f~~~ as much as men. Sites like hers want to keep women in fear 24/7 so they are easier to control and use. We have a whole generation of women who are in college and have been whipped up into a frenzy and wonder why guys are pulling back. Gonna be tough for those gals looking for the MRS degree and trying to snag a pre-med or lawyer. More and more men in college are looking at MGTOW (at least temporarily) as a way out of the horrid harpies hooting and hollering at them. 🙂

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[FrankOneParticipant 1442]

I think we need to look at the big picture also on this one, that is, the chronology:
1.) Laws are passed under the guise of preventing gender discrimination (Title IX, passed in ’65, ammended in 1972)
2.) An UNELECTED body, the Department of Education, decides that schools are to ‘crack down’ on sexual assault by instituting their own adjudication processes independent of the criminal justice system. This occurred only in the last couple of years. The DOE and women’s groups are responsible, but Federal Agencies do not have the constitutional authority to make law, which is essentially what they are doing by pressuring schools with loss of funding if they don’t comply with requirements not contained in LAWS passed by Congress. You see this in many agencies, such as EPA — these are supposed to be regulatory agencies, not legislative bodies.
3.) There is a backlash against lack of due process (see my link to NYT article a few days ago), and the answer is even MORE laws (Safer Campus Act). Maybe a better approach is to say, we have gender equity in the Universities, let’s repeal Title IX completely? All these regulations COST MONEY and thus raise tuition…

Universities should be allowed to expel students with felonies in my opinion, or not admit them, IF the institutions so choose. So if a student is CONVICTED of rape, they ought to be able to expel him or her.

I am unconvinced that programs to tell people to ‘stop rape’ are going to reduce incidence, any more than programs to tell people to stop stealing, embezzling, or murdering.

The rate of occurrence of rapes on campus is about 0.4% per annum http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs02.pdf — however, I think this number is high as it’s likely based on REPORTED rapes not convictions. You can certainly argue about some rapes not being reported, some false claims, etc, but it at least provides an order of magnitude number.

Male students are twice as likely to be victims of violence. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs02.pdf The reason you don’t see any campaigns to stop it is called Male Disposability.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

RoyDal wrote:

@DRS_au,The key word is “thinking.” Whatever mental processes they employ, rational thought is not one of them.

:”Rational thought” is what is used to justify personal preferences to other people. If what isn’t desired doesn’t line up with what is wanted, then new reasoning and evidence is used. Name me someone who really has made themselves a servant of rational thought as the way for their life, and that way isn’t full of personal biases.

This is the reality of the political realm we live in now. Rational thought is not a shield you can hide behind from being harmed. The only way you can do things to reduce risks is know the environment and use strategy to formulate the best way to respond to them, to get what you want and to avoid problems.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

If a young man wants a diploma, he would be foolish to get it on campus. It must be through online classes only.

There is another matter – this kind of nonsense can extend to the online sphere. Therefore, he would be foolish to use his real name or indicate the college he is attending on any profiles.

Leave campuses to the females so they can pay outrageous costs for dormitories and synchronise their cycles.

[UmbreonParticipant 152]

Cipher Highwind wrote:

If a young man wants a diploma, he would be foolish to get it on campus. It must be through online classes only.
There is another matter – this kind of nonsense can extend to the online sphere. Therefore, he would be foolish to use his real name or indicate the college he is attending.
Leave campuses to the females so they can pay outrageous costs for dormitories and synchronise their cycles.

Sadly, that’s not possible. Many four year schools don’t allow freshmen to live off campus and they don’t have all their classes online. Even the two year schools don’t have all their classes online. The “online only” schools aren’t always accredited so you’re paying for extra worthless paper at double (or more!) the price of any other college.

The best answer to avoiding college BS if you aren’t going into law, medicine, anything ending in -ology or teaching is just don’t go to college. If you have to go to college, get active to try to encourage the creation and keeping of things like the Safe Campus Act. Everyone should work on doing that. It’s just the right thing to do. Start emailing and calling, guys!

Beauty fades, dumb is forever.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Your post is entirely and utterly incorrect.

The only classes I have ever taken in person were chemistry and physics at a 4-year school. I have never been required to live on any campus, and I live on the opposite side of the state as the school I am attending.

By “accredited”, I assume you are talking about accreditation by one of the six regional organisations by the Dept. of Education and the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA). There are many accredited schools that have extensive online offerings sufficient so as to transfer to another school that might not offer the same courses. For example, one wishes to get a diploma from A. Community colleges B – J offer certain prerequisites online, so one goes to A and says “Will class X at B transfer as class Y at A?”. Even chemistry and physics, the laboratory classes I took in person, can be taken via correspondence through American Public University that so happens to be accredited through the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools, one of the said six regional organisations.

The work-arounds to the hostile environment on campuses are somewhat circuitous, but they can be managed and will result in a diploma that reads just like any other.

Asking nicely for these c~~~s to stop acting like c~~~s is not a viable strategy to mitigate the present situation. What you advocate in closing is analagous to a MRA’s strategy; I cannot cosign such endeavours.

Umbreon wrote:

Cipher Highwind wrote:

If a young man wants a diploma, he would be foolish to get it on campus. It must be through online classes only.There is another matter – this kind of nonsense can extend to the online sphere. Therefore, he would be foolish to use his real name or indicate the college he is attending.Leave campuses to the females so they can pay outrageous costs for dormitories and synchronise their cycles.

Sadly, that’s not possible. Many four year schools don’t allow freshmen to live off campus and they don’t have all their classes online. Even the two year schools don’t have all their classes online. The “online only” schools aren’t always accredited so you’re paying for extra worthless paper at double (or more!) the price of any other college.
The best answer to avoiding college BS if you aren’t going into law, medicine, anything ending in -ology or teaching is just don’t go to college. If you have to go to college, get active to try to encourage the creation and keeping of things like the Safe Campus Act. Everyone should work on doing that. It’s just the right thing to do. Start emailing and calling, guys!

[Jon the Ex-SquidParticipant 298]

Let’s face reality here, since this isn’t an MRM forum. We’re not trying to change the world. We’re trying to change ourselves and avoid situations that may impact our ability to live life our own way. The risk/reward at this point doesn’t lean towards a college degree’s favor. Better to go into a tradeschool, learn how to do a job which you can have a great chance of finding work right out of school, avoid all that debt, and consider going to college in your late 20’s early 30’s when your older, wiser, and can pay this s~~~ off without crazy debt.

College is as f~~~ed up as a soup sandwich now, both in terms of the environment towards men and the high cost (with lack of male financial freebies) of a tuition. Men need to stop going to college until the absence of 40% of their customer base causes some significant changes.

And yes, there are 100% online degrees from colleges available. There are 3 remaining all-men’s colleges. But its pretty unlikely you’ll have to deal with typical university bulls~~~ if you go to a truck driving school or trade school which is predominantly male (teachers and students).

Things will swing back the other way in the near future. When everyone has a degree, degrees become pretty useless.

Let women have the colleges/university campuses. We’ll see what happens as a result.

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