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Hello all here at MGTOW,
I am back again. I joined in 2016 after a relationship of mine ended and I felt pretty damn angry about how I had been treated. I didn’t learn my damn lesson and am back in 2018 after another relationship. This time, I want it to be the last long-term thing I ever have. I don’t quite understand how, but I thought this girl was different (I now realise is a big mistake, given how almost identical she is treating me in this break-up and also the reasons she is giving) but flash-forward 2 years of being un-MGTOW & here we are. I suppose giving a run-down makes sense so that any on here can give me advice on how to stay free this time. I will keep it short, because in all honesty I’ve wasted enough time thinking about it.
Started Due To:
-long legs
-good body
-curly hair
-deep tan
-very sexually forward
-politically minded (not even that left-wing)
-shared work interests
-Seemed to genuinely care about me
-Said things were for the long runEnded:
-When she “found god” out of the blue (saying “god is my number 1, don’t deny my god” etc) and my questioning was “too harsh” and “uncaring” (for the record, I am an atheist but can respect those who believe…I did react badly/strongly/argumentatively & need to take responsibility for that, I did f~~~ up. But I was shocked/scared as my mother left my father after finding religion in the same way…She didn’t care when I explained that)
-Ended it on my f~~~ing birthday (I mean come on? What the hell…)
-Saying I didn’t support her wants and needs enough (to be honest it might be true, but I was writing a book, trying to f~~~ing build a future for myself and laughably now, us together as a couple…I ALWAYS kept my own interests going as number 1 priority, ready for the fact this was round the corner…I think she hated that…she didn’t much show interest in my passions either in all honesty)
-The fact I had helped her with her depression (put her up in my house and stopped her harming herself, because I cared a lot) and convinced her to take medication (to full recovery) doesn’t seem to matter.
-Monetary imbalance meant I paid for most s~~~ (stupidly was willing to do so too)I am still post-break-up blues and there will be more clarity that comes from this. The one thing I would say is that I found this girl when I was fully MGTOW and that is probably why she was attracted to me; because I didn’t give a single f~~~. I was unobtainable, which is like damn cat-nip. I plan to go MGTOW again, but after really letting myself go from this way of life last time I would need some advice as to how to keep on this road. It got lonely at times and that (along with some bad attitudes on my part, which as a man I must own up to and improve for myself and my future more than anyone) is why I find myself here today, pretty f~~~ed up after this (I thought great) relationship ended.
As someone who is fairly young and now without the structure of University to meet people/work towards a goal I would also appreciate if any have advice on how to get on in the world of work in the way best suited to my own self-respect. I have a lot to learn about that, but at the moment it feels like I have nothing and need to get a job to really work towards something.
All the best,
IntoTheWild
,…it would seem the lesson women are trying to teach you is not sinking in….
Look at it this way, the go round you paid a little and got off with post break up blues. Next time it might be your property making you struggle for survival.
If you want to still interact with women, you need to learn to keep it short term. Like love leave, or as it is put around here pump and dump. Reduce the risk.mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
-long legs
-good body
-curly hair
-deep tan
-very sexually forward
-politically minded (not even that left-wing)
-shared work interests
-Seemed to genuinely care about me
-Said things were for the long runItems 1-9 [i.e. ALL OF THEM] are temporary. EVERYTHING about a woman is temporary — their looks, anger, affection, honesty, fidelity, love, patience, damn near everything. Except their hypergamy — that’s permanent.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
-When she “found god” out of the blue (saying “god is my number 1, don’t deny my god” etc) and my questioning was “too harsh” and “uncaring” (for the record, I am an atheist but can respect those who believe…I did react badly/strongly/argumentatively & need to take responsibility for that, I did f~~~ up. But I was shocked/scared as my mother left my father after finding religion in the same way…She didn’t care when I explained that)
Well, you said you f~~~ed up so you own that one.
-Ended it on my f~~~ing birthday (I mean come on? What the hell…)
Six months from now you’ll realize that was the best birthday present you’ve ever received.
-Saying I didn’t support her wants and needs enough (to be honest it might be true, but I was writing a book, trying to f~~~ing build a future for myself and laughably now, us together as a couple…I ALWAYS kept my own interests going as number 1 priority, ready for the fact this was round the corner…I think she hated that…she didn’t much show interest in my passions either in all honesty)
You said it was true so you own that one as well.
-The fact I had helped her with her depression (put her up in my house and stopped her harming herself, because I cared a lot) and convinced her to take medication (to full recovery) doesn’t seem to matter.
Huge red flag! Unicorns don’t suffer from depression and they are too busy p~~~ing bourbon and farting rainbows to harm themselves.
-Monetary imbalance meant I paid for most s~~~ (stupidly was willing to do so too)
Every male / female relationship EVER.
You’ll be fine brother. She’s not a unicorn, never was. She was an attractive woman with emotional baggage, like almost every attractive woman out there. Someone offered her a better deal and she bailed. She was never yours, it was just your turn.
In the end, you got to bang a hot chick for a while and then she went the f~~~ away. Happy Birthday.
Order the good wine
Anonymous12More red Flags than the Commie Party.
how to stay Free?
has nothing to do with the Women.
It has to do with you.How to stay free?
Stay here, and read.
That should do the trick and deliver a s~~~ton of red pills to the Brain of yours – stop you from thinking with your Dick.
Anonymous12Stay here, as in “stay here come here, log in daily, listen to what the men have to say and do your own thinking”
– no guarantees though- the success of your life is in your hands, and only yours.
She sounds like catch and you sound like a glutton for punishment. Look dude.. If a chick “finds God”. Good for her. She left you for something that will (hopefully) better her life. I cant fault her for that…
But atheists and believers rarely mix. Dude. Stay MGTOW and you’ll be good to go. As an atheist why would you want to be with someone who believes in God anyway… Your values would never really align.
Interestingly you sound like you are a dude who believes in managomy. In my opinion, all men are better off not linking up with women anymore.. Even religious ones. I dated a deeply religious woman once. In that relationship I was:
:Attacked with a folding table
:attacked with a kitchen knife
:Had 3 phones smashed
:And wound up in court more than once…AWALT.
#ICETHEMOUT
#MANOUT
#HIDEYOURWEALTH#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS
Terrific to find your thread this morning.
( a smile at your return )advice
Advice is something you have to be patient with – and discard most of it. The first “advice” I’d give ( after Baz Luhrmann ) is to remember what you get when you ask for it –>> is only a small hash of someone’s meandering experience. Trust yourself here. You knew better going in. Listen your own voice first.
If you’ll permit me to go on….
I happened to think girls who suddenly “find God” are feeding you a line:
1. To excuse her youthful indiscretions.
2. To try and come off like a “good girl” while she’s dumping you.
3. Secretly loves anal.I would probably start joking with her, but I would not take her seriously. And if anyone dumps you ( or won’t be your friend ) because of your stance or politics – or god – then I think that’s bogus too.
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I thought this was the biggest red flag . . .
-The fact I had helped her with her depression (put her up in my house and stopped her harming herself, because I cared a lot)
She had you right where she wanted you. Free rent and all.
“I’m so depressed. I may even hurt myself.”^ Whether she’s doing it for sympathy and attention ( or not ), I hear a girl who hates herself. That’s just not attractive. I don’t interpret it any other way. This is such a red flag, I won’t even get involved with a girl who says “I can’t eat that” or “I can’t drink that” or “is it gluten free?”. Personally – and I am only speaking personally – I can’t stand that s~~~.
It got lonely at times
That’s not a reason to be with anyone. Because having a girlfriend can even isolate you MORE – especially after the breakup. She alienates your friends . . . you spend too much time with her . . . you could have invested that time in new friends or work . . . . and all this adds to the devastation when she’s gone. Some women even do this on purpose to falsely elevate their “value” in your life – to the point where a man thinks “SHE IS ALL I HAVE!!!”.
That feels like a “tragedy” at the time. But it really isn’t.
Just get BUSY. Super busy. And that void will close.but at the moment it feels like I have nothing
Exactly. She WANTS you to feel that way. It’s part of the game for women. It’s actually devastating to THEM when you can carry on fine without them. This translates to the workplace too. When you don’t give a s~~~ if you ever get fired. It’s fantastic.
From a personal “MGTOW” stance, I met a few girls in recent years who I could have gotten with , but within 2 weeks I found them to be immense distractions. That’s a good sign. I can take it or leave it. But I wouldn’t pursue it – because you have other things to pursue.
I hope this was helpful in some way. Just thinking out loud.
Take what’s of value to you . . and toss the rest away.Good to see you again.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Items 1-9 [i.e. ALL OF THEM] are temporary. EVERYTHING about a woman is temporary
I cannot agree with this enough.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.The following is easier to write then to do…….and I have fallen down many times trying to do what I am going to suggest. So I say the following with all due respect to my own failings.
If you were in the relationship for companionship, get a dog.
If you were in it due to sexual urges, get a fleshlight.
If you were in relationships for the validation, (I’m a man because I can attract a pretty girl and have an adult relationship like healthy men do) then work to develop your own self worth internally……and don’t seek validation thru external or culturally imposed standards.
Healthy dose of this forum.
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
I am back again. I joined in 2016 after a relationship of mine ended and I felt pretty damn angry about how I had been treated. I didn’t learn my damn lesson and am back in 2018 after another relationship.
The answer to your question is in your post. The fact that you were here in 2016 shows that you need a serious reality check to help you in your “Love” life. And you left… fell into another relationship that is putting your heart / $ into a blender again.
Some men come here… learn the dangers of companionship… walk away and enjoy a peaceful retirement from all the bull that life can dish out in 2018. Others need to be here weekly if not daily to ingest their daily dosage of red pills in order to go on living a safe Mgtow life.
Welcome Back.
You must own a better Crystal ball than IA woman who claims to have found god and has to love god more than anything else in this world is a woman
who looked into the mirror and fell in love with herself not her father in heaven..
She will lose god and hate herself before her life is over..I found My God’s spirit was alive in me when looking in the mirror I saw My father looking back.
A man who I could never lie to was looking back and saying That his spirit is in my heart hosted
by Jesus and asking me to deny it and I cannot deny my father’s spirit..
Not myself do I love more than anyone but the man who never lied to me and taught me the most about
what being a man is all about..My dead earthly father is my god and who I love more than anyone including
myself.. A man who finds His own father’s spirit will live for others, Not himself..
He becomes “SELFLESS” or one who gives of himself for the good of others.. not selfish which is what happens when a woman finds God..She looks in the mirror and learns to love herself and believes everyone should live for her..I obviously care about you or would not bother a reply!
I respect your right to have your own beliefs even if we disagree.I am just pointing out the difference between a female who finds god in herself
and Me a man who has found my god within myself..That is one of two examples I will give you.
Example number two about finding GOD
We are providers and protectors for our pets.
Dogs or man’s best friend is looking at his master and thinking to himself,
There he is my protector who provides me food and shelter and everything I need
he is my master and must be my GOD..I the dog must serve mankind!The Cat feline friend of the female is looking at her master and thinking to itself
there is my protector who provides food and shelter and everything I need so I conclude
that I must be her GOD..I the cat must be served by the woman..Love and respect to you my MGTOW brother!
I would love to say my brother in Christ but you have expressed your views
on the matter and I respect those views.I believe that if I give everything including my living flesh to my father’s
living spirit he is reborn and in revival through Me.
Although his flesh died in 1999
I claim the right to keep his spirit alive in my heart
and let it guide me..
He is my natural creator after all!Not everyone had a father like mine and I understand that.
This is why I have to pass the lessons he taught me on to other guys.
I cannot let the wisdoms of my father die back in 1999
when lung cancer took his flesh from me..To the rest of the world he was average at best,
But in august 1999 I laid the flesh of my GOD to rest…I do love and respect everyone on this earth because
he told me I could not claim his kingdom unless I did!He said: be respectful son because you only have to disrespect (ONE) not
(EVERYONE) to be considered a disrespectful person.I have no other advise other than that of my dead father
who is in my own personal version of heaven.
My heart is where my heaven is and that cannot be taken from me…Best wishes and stick around this time…
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Well…
Here i go:
Good legs, nice body, she was no different you are just thinking with your dick.
Sexually forward… SHE IS A SLUT, SHE had have more dicks than a richards convention.
Same political view? Women do not have a political or social leaning, they choose something and that is it, to have a social or political view you need to have honor, conviction and the hability to compromise for a cause, women are incapable of that.
God? She is f~~~ing someone else, accept it, get over it, keep going.
You are ignorant, you are lucky, becouse the ignorance is treated with knowledge. Stupidity, however, is only treated with death.
Take two red pills every morning and GYOW, OR dont, i dont really care.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
I know you’re an atheist… but pray you never make the same mistake again… again.
But seriously, come here every day and innoculate yourself from female infection. Safety and strength in numbers.
We ALWAYS become like who we closely associate with, especially when we are young. So closely associate with strong MGTOW, and like magic, you will become a strong MGHOW.
Associate closely with women or blue pillers and, well… I don’t need to tell you what happens.
REPEAT AFTER ME! ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT!
The women that DON’T seem like that are good actors. They ALL act to hide their nature. They have been programmed by evolution to deceive men.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
(1) When she “found god” …
See (3).
(2) Saying I didn’t support her wants and needs enough …
This is a standard line. Narcissism. AWALT.
(3) The fact I had helped her with her depression (put her up in my house and stopped her harming herself, because I cared a lot) and convinced her to take medication (to full recovery) …
A nutter. See also (1).
Thank you everyone so far for your responses!
Whilst they waver in the type of advice they give (spiritual, practical, future and reflection) I can safely say that I value all of them. We all have our different stories and if mistakes have been made (as I know I made) then we have come here to learn to not make those same mistakes again.
For whatever reason, I feel that this time I must stick around. Read the quotes. Follow the channels & decide what is right for me and what is not. Last time I was here it didn’t feel that concrete. But I know for sure that I CHOOSE not to go through this pain/rejection again with someone else. I don’t need it in my life for sure and I will learn how to avoid that.
Many thanks and do keep the responses coming if you wish,
I learn something from each one. Everything gives an angle but certainly:
relationship for companionship, get a dog.
It’s actually devastating to THEM when you can carry on fine without them.
Dogs or man’s best friend is looking at his master and thinking to himself,
There he is my protector who provides me food and shelter and everything I need
he is my master and must be my GOD..I the dog must serve mankind!Just get BUSY. Super busy. And that void will close.
ARE ONES I SHALL LOOK TOWARD. A DOG IS A GREAT IDEA. ALWAYS LIKED HUSKIES.
Many thanks,
Into The Wild
Hahahah,
MONK
Very concise!
ITW
Huge red flag! Unicorns don’t suffer from depression and they are too busy p~~~ing bourbon and farting rainbows to harm themselves.
This is one of the best pieces of advice you can receive! If you are in the state of delusional romantic love and your lady has ANY emotional issues, ask your best friend (male) what he honestly thinks about the woman. Frankly the answer better involve your ass walking out a door.
DO NOT PULL A CAPTAIN SAVE A HO!!!! You WILL REGRET IT!!!!
Parasites destroy the host….
As someone who is fairly young and now without the structure of University to meet people/work towards a goal I would also appreciate if any have advice on how to get on in the world of work in the way best suited to my own self-respect. I have a lot to learn about that, but at the moment it feels like I have nothing and need to get a job to really work towards something.
Do I understand this correctly? You want a steady paycheck AND self respect?
I was never able to achieve that myself. Perhaps someone else can help you with that…
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