AWALT in the Christian Bible

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

I am a professing Christian. Part of that means that I believe in the Bible. And ever since I became MGTOW, I realized how blind I had been my whole life to the many warnings the Bible has to offer about women. It is commonly assumed within Christian circles that Christian women are somehow different or immune to the shortcomings of women in our culture… it’s a kind of “Christian blue pill dogma,” if you will. Christian men, in turn, usually think very highly of Christian women and assume that, “because they’re Christians(!)” they won’t s~~~-test them or divorce-rape them.

“That only happens to unbelievers!”

😛

Back to the point: In proverbs 31, the commonly-cited chapter on Biblical womanhood, we are greeted with a warning that is all-too-often overlooked.

Verse 10: “A virtuous wife who can find? Her worth is far above rubies.”

Hmmm. I’ve never found a ruby. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a ruby (physically). But I’ve seen plenty of wives. I even had one myself. And her worth definitely wasn’t far above rubies.

But, it is commonly taught in Christian circles that all Christian women can be this virtuous… and, it is implied, that they in fact are this virtuous!

Never mind that that the Bible says flatly that a virtuous wife is far rarer and more precious that a pile of rubies. And in ancient times (just like today), you can’t just go to your local rock quarry and pick up a pocketful of rubies. They’re rare.

So… that strongly implies that the vast majority of married men will end up being married to a woman like the ones described elsewhere in the book of Proverbs. Like… an “odious woman,” or “a contentious wife,” or the adulteress of chapter 7 who cuckolded her husband. In fact, Proverbs seems to have a lot more to say about bad women than it does about good women, and warning men to stay the f~~~ away from them.

As a Christian, I believe in the theoretical possibility of a good, virtuous wife who makes her husband proud and happy. In practical terms, I think I’m far more likely to find a $3 million Burmese ruby while digging in my potato patch than I am to find a virtuous wife. Even (especially?) in the modern, American Christian church scene.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

I am not religious myself, I was baptized and went to communion and Sunday school for a time when I was younger. In my teenage years I considered myself atheist due to lack of empirical evidence.

Now however I consider myself agnostic, as I don’t see any evidence to either prove or disprove the existence of God or a greater being.

There is significant value in religious teachings, such as virtue and ethics. When our modern atheistic society threw away religion, those values seem to have gone with it. Which is a great shame.

Like the rest of western society, the church is not immune to gynocentrism, and as you said christian women are not immune for being AWALTS.

My brother-in-law’s mother, one of the most Christian people I know (always trying to push it on everyone else) has been divorced 3 times.

[Anonymous 42]

Silver Fox wrote:

Never mind that that the Bible says flatly that a virtuous wife is far rarer and more precious that a pile of rubies

I had a nice ruby eyed lion ring and to speak honestly and truly it was priceless when compared to the women I dated in church! Church is where I found Psycho Bitch, nuff said?

Yea, I was in the choir, so what!

[WallyParticipant]

I have found non-religious women more honest than religious. Both wanted the same things just one more overt than the other. I no longer date either, avoid all and life is easier. The eunuch was probably the happiest fellow in the Bible.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Silver Fox wrote:

Back to the point: In proverbs 31, the commonly-cited chapter on Biblical womanhood, we are greeted with a warning that is all-too-often overlooked.

Verse 10: “A virtuous wife who can find? Her worth is far above rubies.”

This passage was written by King Solomon, the [2nd] wisest man to ever live. He had 700+ wives and another 200+ consorts. That’s a pretty robust sample size for an experiment and to draw his conclusions from.
I’m partial to Ecclesiastes 7:28 [see my custom signature].

Note: The wisest man to ever walk our planet [Jesus of Nazareth] NEVER MARRIED at all.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Anonymous 42]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Note: The wisest man to ever walk our planet [Jesus of Nazareth] NEVER MARRIED at all.

So he came from virgin pussy and remained a virgin himself proving the only path to purity is avoiding the meathole?

Hmmm, I’d have to agree with that having my own mind and life free of the clouded thinking that cums from pussy and it’s power to manipulate…

Solomon didn’t have MGTOW wisdom, and I’ll bet the farm on that!

[Anonymous 54]

Do you believe that women make it to heaven?

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Thank you Silver Fox for this post. My Catholic upbringing also led me to believe that all women were basically like the Virgin Mary. I never looked for a girl from my church and always found them from a school environment. I was always scared if my religious intentions were known, I would not have received any physical attention. I made mistake, after mistake, after mistake. Solution = MGTOW.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

Do you believe that women make it to heaven?

If you’re talking to me Old Sage I’ll need admittance myself to even see!

No mi yob amigo! No mi Trabaho!

All I can say is lets wait and see…

[Anonymous 0]

Virtuous Christian women?
When I was a young man, I wanted to be a minister in the United Church, but the more I studied the less I believed. And the more I saw around me the less I believed. The minister of the church I was attending was having an affair with the church secretary and eventually ran off with her. The consensus among the congregation was that HE seduced HER. Far from the truth if you talked to her husband. He told me that he felt something was wrong but didn’t come forward because he would be embarrassed and it would cause a scandal. I stopped believing in the goodness of women.
Let me ask you this. How did sin enter the world? Well, the serpent seduced Eve into feeling that her eyes would be opened to the true nature of God if she ate of the forbidden fruit. She did. She seduced Adam to eat the fruit as well. When God questioned this, Adam said the woman you gave me said it was ok. Eve said the serpent said it was OK. Curiously, the serpent is always depicted as male.
So even back then women were NOT VIRTUOUS, did not take responsibility for their actions, and found a way to blame it on a man. AWALT, DO NOT BE MIS-LED.

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Silver Fox wrote:

Christian men, in turn, usually think very highly of Christian women and assume that, “because they’re Christians(!)” they won’t s~~~-test them or divorce-rape them

Maybe there’s a “Christian man” out there for my lil sweet heart. She TRANSFORMED into Super CHRISTIAN after marriage, and the more she “believed”, the crazier she got and continues to get. She was manageable in the coo-coo department prior to religion, but her religious obsession really tipped the scales completely in the coo-coo direction, and there aint no comin back!!

As far as divorce, “religious” people divorce at similar rates as everyone else !! No one is protected from female nature !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Icarus9760Participant 33]

Unicorns are mythical creatures, because they don’t exist.

Unicorns are mythical creatures, because they don't exist.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Most religious women I’ve ever known have been ‘Sunday Christians’,nice and sweet in church but once out they
are just like any other broad.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Anonymous wrote:

So even back then women were NOT VIRTUOUS, did not take responsibility for their actions, and found a way to blame it on a man. AWALT, DO NOT BE MIS-LED.

I’m not into religion, and do not want to get into a religious conversation because frankly I just don’t care. In my limited knowledge about this whole topic, I thought GOD was/is omniscient. Therefore, he knew exactly how he made the women from the get go. No surprises for GOD. Hell, maybe a poor choice in words, but being omniscient means that GOD ALREADY knew what Eve was going to set up Adam before he even made her. There really is no free will or surprises in my eyes, but like I said, this is not an area that I really want to get into. These are just some “common sense” observations from an outsider about all that. I’m thinking I may have got this from George Carlin, sound familiar ?? Anyways, I’m sure there are some excuses/explanations bla, bla, bla. to rationalize it all. Enough said, don’t mean to offend anyone, and I don’t care anyways. Have A Great Day !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[JebParticipant 65]

Find a messianic congregation. They are all virtually “led” by men. Men teach the entire congregation. Women do not “speak/teach” in these congregations except to teach women only.

All other aspects are under the authority of the male leadership.

You will find a better selection of submissive scripturally correct women there.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

don’t mean to offend anyone,

No offense taken, because I happen to agree with you. 🙂 I may be in the minority in modern American Christianity but I find it hard to reconcile the idea of God’s perfect omniscience with Man’s autonomy. Thus, I don’t really believe in free will, in the larger, spiritual sense. But anyways…

Yes, the church in North America is very gynocentric. There are multitudes of books and seminars and retreats about how men are supposed to worship the women in their lives. Men take verses like, “Husbands, love your wives” and use them to justify their slobbering, fawning, mangina behavior. It’s a convenient excuse for just being a wimp. Of course, the misandrist elements are there too. Christian men are blamed when things aren’t going well in the family or marriage. Christian men are berated from the pulpit for a all the “sins” the pastor supposedly knows all the men are committing (Mark Driscoll, anyone?). But you NEVER hear women getting rebuked like that from the pulpit. And so Christian men (myself included) grew up with the unspoken assumption that Christian women are only a step down from the angels.

Do you believe that women make it to heaven?

Yes. Although I think that the overall number is a lot smaller than commonly assumed… mostly because the evil perpetuated by so-called Christian women is so often excused or forgiven or even mislabeled. All Christian women are like the Virgin Mary, remember??? 😛

This passage was written by King Solomon, the [2nd] wisest man to ever live.

I have a theory about Solomon… As the wisest person on earth at that time, perhaps part of his journey to wisdom was to experience the hell of bad women. So he “experienced” around 1,000 different women, which is more than most of us will ever have, to prove beyond question that, yes, AWALT. Men with less experience or wisdom than Solomon, take heed–Solomon did your homework for you. 🙂

Finally, I just want to say that my personal Christian faith is just that–personal. My intention here is merely to share my “aha!” moment when it comes to MGTOW and the Bible. Whether you consider yourself religious or not, all the men here share in common the knowledge of what real female behavior is like.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[Anonymous 54]

@sf. Thanks for answering that.Its something I have been thinking about lately.

[Anonymous 0]

Awakened wrote:

M52 wrote:

So even back then women were NOT VIRTUOUS, did not take responsibility for their actions, and found a way to blame it on a man. AWALT, DO NOT BE MIS-LED.

I’m not into religion, and do not want to get into a religious conversation because frankly I just don’t care. In my limited knowledge about this whole topic, I thought GOD was/is omniscient. Therefore, he knew exactly how he made the women from the get go. No surprises for GOD. Hell, maybe a poor choice in words, but being omniscient means that GOD ALREADY knew what Eve was going to set up Adam before he even made her. There really is no free will or surprises in my eyes, but like I said, this is not an area that I really want to get into. These are just some “common sense” observations from an outsider about all that. I’m thinking I may have got this from George Carlin, sound familiar ?? Anyways, I’m sure there are some excuses/explanations bla, bla, bla. to rationalize it all. Enough said, don’t mean to offend anyone, and I don’t care anyways. Have A Great Day !!

Hey Awakened,
No offense taken
I thought about that, too.
Maybe God is a woman and we have been truly f~~~ed right from the beginning

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Anonymous wrote:

Hey Awakened,
No offense taken
I thought about that, too.

I don’t like writing/talking about religion because varying opinions on the subject often times offends people, and really isn’t needed when discussing topics that affect men. In other words, it’s potentially problematic, and can cause unnecessary strife. Therefore, it’s best for me to steer clear, but this topic post was indirectly interesting to me, and most brothers appear to be pretty open minded when it comes to “personal” beliefs. So, f~~~ it, I threw in my 2 cents.

“Maybe God is a woman and we have been truly f~~~ed right from the beginning”

Would any man you know if he could “create” women, give them their present female nature, create MENATPAUSE to shut down their libido’s and f~~~ up their hormones to make them into more of a screaming lunatic, create an unforgiving wall that wrecks 99% of all women etc. ?

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AmongstMenParticipant 129]

I’m a believer myself. Was at a bookstore a month ago and a random person came up to me and started conversation on what our passions in life are. Got contact info with each other afterward and hit me up recently. Told me he’s part of this Christian self improvement group and he recommended them to have me join.

The Christain group allegedly told him they were skeptical because I was a “single man”… boy did I educate him on the reality of our gynocentric world and that left him very pessimistic toward the end of our conversation, not wanting to listen to any more of the red pill truths.

I lost near all interest of the little interest I even had of meeting that group. The highest form of consciousness you can have according to my interpretations in the bible is a celibate consciousness. Jesus himself. Enough said. There’s definitely many warning signs and that quote is a very good one and it’s really accurate. The church is far from valuing any of those lifestyles in this day and age. It’s just become another social event to go meet someone and date/hookup with on a Sunday and dip.

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