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Anonymous1So, there is this thing that just came to me a few days ago.
One of the arguments I hear from people that are against Mgtow is that when we say “all women are like that” is the same as when the feminists say “all men are rapists”.
Well, this is the ultimate bulls~~~, and I will say now why.
Consider this:
When a man is accused of rape, even if is a false accusation, many men will rush to aid the “supposedly” FEMALE VICTIM. Even before there is a trial, the “rapist’s” life will most certanly be ruined. You will not see men cutting the rapist a slack because he has a penis. Even when other men are not jumping the gun and organizing rallies to CASTRATE the accused, men will still try to make sure the crime occured because of the perceived SEVERITY of the crime (although it is only serious when WOMEN are the victims, when men are raped, it is not that serious. If a men is raped by a WOMAN, he is considered “lucky”), and not for sympahty for the men being accused. That is why you see men throwing OTHER MEN under the bus ALL the TIME.
Doing that, men are actively PROVING that NOT ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS. That in fact, the OPPOSITE is TRUE: rapists are ABHORRENT to men .
Now lets see the other way around. Let’s say that a WOMAN is accused, with PROOF, of RAPING A MAN. OR A CHILD. Or of commiting VIOLENCE (castration perhaps?) agaisnt a men? OR A CHILD? Where is the mob of angry WOMEN? Where are the NAWALTS defending the MALE VICTIMS on the bases that MEN LIVES have INTRINSIC VALUE? Where are the women that are “not feminists” CONDEMING the FEMALE RAPISTS/AGGRESSORS when the victim is a MALE STRANGER? You see none.
This came to me after I saw a video from an anti-feminists youtuber called DrtyHippiePanda. She was ranting about how moronic feminists are when saying that all men are rapists. And then, in the middle of the rant, she said how she would lash out against anyone that said that (all men are rapists) to any men that are CLOSE TO HER. That’s when it hit me. Women don’t care about men, unless they PROVE their worth to them. Men usually don’t have this discrimination. They would defend ANY woman, and women know and take advantage of this. Including the so called anti-feminists, egalitarians, MRA’s or what have you.
Hell, even the mere SUGGESTION that “woman should defend themselves” will cause men to go insane. Take a look at all the nationalists that were p~~~ed on Mgtow because of the “german rape crisis” (or see the reponse I got from an youtuber when I said that prase on my old post “My little saga on youtube”). However, a woman can say she will only defend the ones close to her, and the same men will praise such attitude as if it was the right thing to do… when women do it. That is why more and more I am starting to think egalitarians are a f~~~ing joke. It is all equal as long as women are benefiting from the “equality”. If a men complains about the UNEQUAL distribution of BURDEN, or if he decides to PRESERVE himself the same way a WOMAN would preserve HERSELF then he is to be ostricize.
Women (and blue pill men) value women for their intrinsic value, but men’s value is attached to what he can DO or HAVE and not what he IS. And although one can argue that only a minority of women is vocal against men, the vast majority doesn’t give a CRAP about us. And not only that, but even if the male “activists” I mentioned earlier (the ones willing to punish someone accused of raping a woman) are the minority as well, even then there are differences. The female “vocal minority” is against men, while the MALE “vocal minority” is IN FAVOR of WOMEN NO MATTER WHAT (assuming they are the minority, which they aren’t).
But aparently in this world, as I said on my previous posts, facts and skepticism are only valuable when they are proving your ideology, once they prove you are wrong, such practices are to be dismissed, by FEMINSTS and ANTI-FEMINISTS, EGALITARIANS or MRA’s alike.
Well, seeing that I have to say: F~~~ them all, go your own way.
Just a little rant.
Cheers.
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Their running out of arguments, so basically they take what we say, and recycled it, and throw it back.
Nice try!
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
Okay, let’s humor this argument. Let’s say all men are rapists. At least there are laws in place to punish men and keep us from doing it. What are the laws out there to stop women from taking your house, kids, dog and car in the divorce? None. Women are actively given incentive to financially screw you over thanks to our courts.
Also, their argument is total bulls~~~. I will pay attention to it when 70% of men all over the world start raping women in the streets, ya know, like how 70% of women initiate divorces and screw over men? Yeah, numbers aren’t quite matching up, ladies. You’re going to have to try harder than that.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
Excellent topic.
It’s so simple to break down and humiliate the AWALT / AMAR nonsense – right to their faces.
Let’s examine it with 100% intellectual honesty:The problem women have with the AWALT statement is: “the generalization”.
“YOU CAN’T GENERALIZE LIKE THAT!!!”.“Well, actually, you MUST generalize if you ever want to learn anything in the world – providing the generalization is TRUE. Saying “birds fly” is a true generalization – and an accurate one. You don’t disprove it by saying “PENGUINS DON’T!!!”. That would make you an idiot who tries to disprove an overwhelming fact by drawing attention to the lowest common denominator. Look UP grasshopper. Not down.”
They don’t care if it’s true or false, they hate the generalization – unless the generalization includes female worship and adoration. No group of women will ever express a problem with the statement “all women are beautiful”, and not one woman will stand up, argue, scream, object or correct you – even though they KNOW the generalization is false.
Lie your ass off on TV and say “all women are beautiful”, and even though 96% women don’t believe it themselves, you’ll get an automatic round of applause. Just like they ALL gleefully clap and laugh at the statement “women are smarter than men“.
In both examples, damn near 100% of women in the room have NO PROBLEM with a generalization – true or false.
Why? Because the vast majority (96%) of women are intellectually dishonest about generalizing – even when it’s a compliment.
96% of women who applaud at the statement “all women are beautiful” are liars. Proven.So since 96% of women are intellectually dishonest about a COMPLIMENTARY generalization that they know to be patently false, you are certain to get that at least that many dishonest reactions & arguments toward a CRITICAL generalization – even when it’s TRUE. Whether is true (or false) that “women are smarter than men” is now 96% bulls~~~ when spoken by a woman.
Well, actually, because I am a man and have something known as “integrity”…… I know for a fact that NOT “all” women are like that. We know about 97% of a random selection of 300 American female audience members are like that. So it’s fair and accurate to say MOST women are like that. We also know that most women believe it’s OK to be “like that” (whether they are or not) because it’s openly broadcast into every home, is produced by women, is baked into the legal system, and endorsed by advertisers on daytime TV. It’s also AMUSING to the vast majority of women. Whether they are “like that” or not… they encourage other women to be like that.
What we know for a fact, is nearly 100% of women are “like that” or endorse and accept being “like that” is culturally acceptable.
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“All men are rapists”.
“F~~~ off liar. Not even 1% of the prison population are rapists. 99% of criminals in prison are there for other reasons, like fraud, murder, theft, cheating on their taxes, breaking and entering, non-payment of child support to a paternity-fraud-committing bitch – to whom he shouldn’t even paying child support in the first place. And of all the men you pass in your everyday life, what % of them tried to rape you – or even gave you the time of day? You couldn’t even PAY 1% of men out there to rape anyone. Even if you lived in Cologne! And you know it. Not even 100% of the men in prison who were accused of “rape” – are rapists. You lying, intellectually dishonest piece of s~~~.”
MANCLUSION: Whether ALL (100% of) women are like that – or not – is irrelevant. What is relevant are the facts. At least 96% of women will even lie to themselves – and are totally unwilling to accept and admit the truth.
FACT: Damn near ALL women are “like that”, encourage others to be “like that”, and/or will lie about not being like that.
FACT: Damn near ALL men are “not rapists”.Breaking down AWALT .vs AMAR also proves men are smarter than women. Gather 300 random women and almost 100% will be like that. Gather 300 random men and it’s more likely not even one of them ever raped anybody.
*This message has been brought to you by Keymaster. Professor with a doctorate in women’s studies at MGTOW University. He enjoys hiking, biking, long walks on the beach, studying wildlife, and nuking hamsters for sport.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous7Very well broken down.
<sniffles>
I love a good read like this.
I have the urge to fist pump and yell
“YOU GUYS F~~~ING NAILED IT”There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Sorry guys, I accept the feminist version.
All men are rapists because under patriarchy women cannot consent and so heterosexual sex is always rape.
Patriarchy means there are men around and they have money 🙂
Then? Married men rape more than me, I meet my partner just only 7-8 days per month. They should begin arresting all married men and men who are cohabiting with a woman. Then, we’ll see if it’ll be my turn.
That means AWALT and no woman can consent, so women must be viewed like an unaccountable child, but with power. Right now.It seems my reasoning works.
All women are unaccountable children.
All men are rapists – let’s begin arresting who rape more: married and cohabiting men oppressing women all the day.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Okay, let’s humor this argument. Let’s say all men are rapists.
no no no,
no more humoring when talking to t~~~s and these lunatics.
You give them an inch and they take a mile,
and then another mile,
and then another mile…1)You tell them to prove it.
2)They s~~~ themselves.To be fair, and to defend myself, I did buy her dinner and a movie first.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Of course they’re not equivalent.
When a man says: “Not all men are rapists.” it’s almost definitely because he, himself, is not a rapist.
When a woman says: “Not all women are like that.” it’s a sure bet that she, herself, is EXACTLY like that.
The difference, to me, is the intention behind the language. When a man says AWALT, he is offering a warning for other men to be careful. “Do not put yourself in a situation where you could allow the system to destroy you.” When a feminist says AMAR, she’s not offering a warning to women to be careful and take measures to protect themselves. On the contrary, feminists believe that they can do/say whatever and act however they want and personal protection and safety shouldn’t have to be a concern. They say AMAR, not as a warning, but solely to dehumanize men. Men are scum, pigs, rapists. When you dehumanize a group like that, you are opening them up for mistreatment by the system, which is what feminists want. There is no need for guilt because men are not human. It’s akin to nazis calling Jews rats, so they could imprison them, confiscate their assets, and slaughter them. It’s akin to slave traders forcing themselves to believe that Africans are a form of ape, not human, so they can enslave them, beat them, confiscate their assets and even kill them. Go ahead and abuse men. They’re all rapists. Go ahead and falsely accuse men of rape. If he didn’t do it this time, he probably did it in the past because AMAR and you are justified in your lies. There’s the difference.
AWALT is a warning for men. AMAR is an attempt to dehumanize men for further persecution and abuse.
I bathe in the tears of single moms.
“YOU CAN’T GENERALIZE LIKE THAT!!!”.
“Well, actually, you MUST generalize if you ever want to learn anything in the world – providing the generalization is TRUE. Saying “birds fly” is a true generalization – and an accurate one. You don’t disprove it by saying “PENGUINS DON’T!!!”. That would make you an idiot who tries to disprove an overwhelming fact by drawing attention to the lowest common denominator. Look UP grasshopper. Not down.”
This one was fantastic. With your permission I will add it to my list of great comebacks.
The approval of the people against MGTOW is irrelevant.
Would you hold any respect of the opinion of a cucked man? NOPE. He’s cucked. His life is misery. He can f~~~ off.The difference, to me, is the intention behind the language. When a man says AWALT, he is offering a warning for other men to be careful.
Definitely.
Now look closer at the intention behind the “NAWALT” deflection:
“not all women are like that”.Absorb this for a minute:
She has just come out and told you even she knows: MOST women are like that. If most women were not like that…. she would say “most women are not like that”. But she can’t say that, so she argues “not all“.
Even 1-in-a-billion…. is still “not all”.
Right?
She knows most women are like that – probably including herself – and that’s how NAWALT (while technically true) is also bulls~~~. Even more importantly, saying “not all women are like that” does nothing to show she is not like that. In fact, there is a greater chance the women who use it…. are EXACTLY like that.
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••••••I had one really good female “friend” who I’ve known since the 9th grade. No involvement. We also worked together for many years and would have lunch or coffee sometimes. I would talk about some unacceptable s~~~ a girlfriend pulled (or talked about women in any REAL WAY) she would say “not all women are like that”.
It infuriated the s~~~ out of me.
“OK… but I am talking about the ones who are!!”.… and she would always deflect the point.
Because she was exactly like that too.When a woman says: “Not all women are like that.” it’s a sure bet that she, herself, is EXACTLY like that.
BINGO.
This one was fantastic. With your permission I will add it to my list of great comebacks.
It’s all yours. NAWALT is how I first discovered MGTOW. I kept hearing it one too many times. Then I was in another country and a woman said it to me AGAIN. It didn’t matter where I was in the world, ALL women said the same s~~~ “Not all women are like that”. Even members of my own family!
I’m thinking….. who brainwashed these creatures to say exactly the same thing, and why do they ALL phrase it that way? “Not all”.
So finally looked it up and saw my first MGTOW video on NAWALT – which blew my mind. I realized there was an entire population of men who heard the same s~~~ and they broke it down and made videos about it! They knew it was no more than a deflection too.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.To add..
As has been already pointed out, rape is illegal. What would happen if rape became legal? Not only that, but their was no social repercussions. Even the woman who you hypothetically raped didn’t hold it against you. Would all men be rapists then? No. Alcohol used to be illegal, does every man now drink alcohol? They do not. Some because they seemly don’t like it. Some for health, some for their specific moral or religious reasons. Rape would be the same, but then you add in homosexuals, those that prefer consensual sex or monogamous relations over the now available rape option. I’d argue that even if you made rape illegal, you still couldn’t come close to all men are rapists.
And sticking with the analogy to alcohol, it’s current illegal to drink under the age of 21 (in my state at least), but it’s widely accepted to drink under 21. In fact, you are often considered an outcast if you don’t drink. If all men wanted to rape, wouldn’t see something similar? Sure, it’s not the same as the punishment for drinking is no where near the punishment for rape, but wouldn’t you see something? Wouldn’t men talk about it in locker rooms, joke about it or something like that. Wouldn’t men talk about rape fantasies?
Oh wait…it’s the WOMEN that have rape fantasies. It’s WOMEN who go in droves to see Shades of Grey. It’s the WOMEN who sing ‘sticks and stones may break my bones, but chains and whips excite me’.
Ok. Then do it.
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