Attempt of a constructive brainstorming: What do we…

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

And ned trent, please be more open minded about the contributions of others. The truth is positive.

I shall do my very best to be. You see the thing with any possible or seemingly plausible conspiracy theories is this: it is an immensely complicated world that we live in and there are so many different factors that most of us (including myself) don’t even know about or could take into account, which I believe is the reason why we can’t for sure pinpoint any specific date or point in time when the final economic collapse could either hit at full scale or even rather slowly creeps in.

For instance CrazyCanuck, what makes you so certain that it will happen in September this year…? (even if you can’t answer that then it’s ok)

The only thing that everyone can be quite sure about is that eventually at some point the whole global economy is bound to fall apart, since in its current form there quite obviously is no way that it can be sustained indefinitely and whoever in the very background somewhere up top is pulling all the strings/holding all the cards (that’s me keeping an open mind here in terms of conspiracies although I tend to handle them all with care and try to make up my own mind about one or the other and try to figure out myself which elements might make the best plausible sense to me, which is very tricky in itself, I know) knows this and probably even wants the collapse to happen. But then the timing for intervention by anybody after the collapse (be it us or some other group) obviously will be very crucial if we all want to make a change and want to make the world a better place from that point forward, rather than keep waiting on and letting those who are still in power to then push only their own hidden and questionable agenda.

Who knows “they” might even like the very idea that there are so many different conspiracy theories circling around in this complex world, because that in itself again would also be a convenient way to keep us confused and insecure about everything what keeps happening and developing around us on a day to day basis, besides the fact that lots of different media are already contributing to our confusion with biased flow of information in whichever way. Now quite a few of you have already mentioned good points of a couple of new positive basic elements for a new society and it will be quite vital for us that we have to keep focused on that. Since we already are in a way a (growing) focus(ed) group in a broader sense, looking behind and beyond all of the gynocentric hooo-haaaa I think it could well be part of our responsibility to come up with ideas for a better system after the collapse, as much as we currently may be fine with watching it happen from the sidelines if you know what I mean, guys …

Until about say two or three years ago I for one used to be politically committed within a branch of the occupy movement, but only to witness how eventually some of the biased media and political forces merely waited it out to pass and probably hardly ever took it seriously in the first place, which is why I no longer directly and actively commit myself for any political direction such as that one, as I don’t see any point in that now, whilst the current system still seems to be in place and quite intact for the most part (which is unfortunate enough)…

I hope that clarified a bit about the point why I brought up this thread, well done this far, guys and let’s keep at it.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[StoneParticipant 25]

Has anyone else noticed that men don’t work for Social Services? Maybe close but I have yet to see a male employee.

I have a friend who was married with two young daughters. Wife filed divorce on him then the Social Service Nazis moved in to start tearing him apart with the full weight of the state. He made it 3 1/2 months before he blew his brains out. I had a friend who was a cop who told me that they were constantly scraping disenfranchised dads off the walls. He said the weird part is that you never here anything about it in the news. Not so weird once you understand what the plan is.

It’s the guys who don’t understand what is going on, blame themselves for what happened to their families & feel that they somehow failed that I am talking to. I’ve been studying these rat bastards for 25 years. Like I said, there is no theory involved. The war of the sexes and the break up of families was strategized & implemented by hired think tanks with the intent to socially engineer society where bonding between males and females became increasingly more difficult and less likely to succeed for the purpose of population control – it’s the same reason they push the LGBT agenda. If you think about it, it’s not really rocket science.

[StoneParticipant 25]

Karen Hudes is a friend of mine, she is a very intelligent woman. You mentioned chipping us to track us; Aaron Russo said Nicholas Rockefeller told him as much in the video I posted of him. Here’s something else to consider:

During WWII, IBM created the punch cards that the Nazis used to track their prisoners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yefdIdLIf1Q

IBM also created personal computers in 1981 many of us are using today. When they did, the “forgot” to make an operating system, something that Bill Gates took control over and maintained throughout the computer’s production. Bill Gates’ father was big in Planned Parenthood, spin off of the American Eugenics Society of whom the Rockefellers funded. Earlier I posted a link discussing Rockefeller’s Lucky Genes Club of whom Bill Gates is a member.

This is the new NSA data collection center where they collect data from computers & cell phones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

 

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Cheers batcave for getting back to the topic. Good points you made there.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[StoneParticipant 25]

Funny you should mention the Jews, Karen Hudes is a Jew and she’s ratting them off. The concept was that the globalists would use the Jews to hind their agenda behind as mentioned here:

“Jacob Schiff sets up the Anti Defamation League (ADL) in the United States.  This organisation is formed to slander anyone who questions or challenges the Rothschild global conspiracy as, “anti-semitic.””

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

That’s their program in a nutshell. The House of Rothschild funded Nazi Germany; if anyone has a case against the Rothschilds, it’s the Jews.

In this inteview with Karen Hudes’, she makes a comment how all intelligence agencies have been organized together  at 7:15 into video:

To understand why the CIA is involved in psychological engineering of society, it will require a little history.

“..he was talking about how the U.S. was set up to take over from Britain as the policeman of the WORLD to bring in the world system, the world government – and he talked about how it would FALTER, just like Rome, and rise for a while and appear to be all conquering, and then fall again and then rise once more, each one is like a smaller wave until it would just fall apart within.  He said, “The U.S. will set a record in the rate of rise and fall of an empire.  Between wide open boarders and the fall of the dollar, and the growing population against the declining resource base, it will be defeated from within.  Mobs will rule the streets in the nation that is now the third largest in the world, and unable to support its population except by taking resources from other countries.”  That comes from a guy who was up there with the Royal Institute of
International Affairs, The Council on Foreign Relations, The Cecil Rhodes Foundations, The Lord Milner Group, the big boys that really run the show for world government.  The guys who SET UP, in fact, this system for world government, predicting all that time ago,
what the agenda would be.”

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_190_The_DObama
_Lama_and_the_Sheep_Nov072008.html

And who was Toybee?

“Arnold J. Toynbee (1889–1975) was synonymous with the Royal Institute of
International Affairs for the first half of its history.

He held the post of Director of Studies from 1925 to 1954, and thereafter retained an office in Chatham House until his death. Throughout that half-century he combined the roles of scholar and public intellectual, using International Affairs—along with many other outlets— to communicate the fruits and findings of his research to policy-makers and the wider community. During his 50 years at Chatham House Toynbee contributed ..”

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1468-2346.12093/pdf

This is important because Royal Institute of International Affairs was a non-governmental organization involved in British political policy making, i.e., to circumvent the voting process. It was set up by the House of Rothschild, same guys who flipped the bill for the state of Israel and the same guys who control Mossad. MI5 reports directly to Chatham House. They are above the law because they are involved in “national security”, like Mossad. The system worked so well, they decided to bring it to the U.S.:

“In 1919 British and American delegates to the Paris Peace Conference, under the leadership of Lionel Curtis, conceived the idea of an Anglo-American Institute of foreign affairs to study international problems with a view to preventing future wars. In the event, the British Institute of International Affairs was founded separately in London in
July 1920. The American delegates developed the Council on Foreign Relations in New York
as a sister institute.”

http://www.chathamhouse.org/about/history

“Nevertheless, Donovan began to lay the groundwork for a centralized intelligence program. It was he who organized the COI’s New York headquarters in Room 3603 of Rockefeller Center in October, 1941 and asked Allen Dulles to head it; the offices Dulles took were on the floor immediately above the location of the operations of Britain’s
MI6.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Donovan

And who is the Honorary Chairman of the CFR? That would be David Rockefeller, same building MI6 was in becomes the offices of the CIA.

“… but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault. The hopeful aspect of the present situation is that even as nations resist appeals for “world government” and “the surrender of sovereignty,” technological, economic and political interests are forcing them … ”

“As in the case of the U.S. Constitution, we are more likely to make progress by pressing the existing instrument to the outer limits of its potentialities through creative use, seeking amendments only on carefully selected matters where they seem both necessary and capable of adoption by the constitutionally required majority.”
~ Council on Foreign Relations, Foreign Affairs, April 1974

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/24506/richard-n-gardner/the-hard-road-to-world-order

The bankers who want to be the top dogs in globalism control not only the Israeli intelligence community but the world’s intelligence agencies. They hide behind “national security” which places them above the law. In reality, they were set up as “anti-national security.”

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure–one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

“The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

~ David Rockefeller, from his autobiography “Memoirs” , 2002

http://www.amazon.com/DAVID-ROCKEFELLER-MEMOIRS-HARDCOVER/dp/B0023ZXCLE

This is a theory that’s coming out of their own mouths. Why should anyone here give a damn? Because more than likely this site never would have been setup in the first place if it wasn’t for what this international network has been busy putting in place and the effects their diligent efforts don’t only apply to human relationships. As far as being on topic, I’m just beginning to get warmed up. Think of it as a twelve step recovery program.

[StoneParticipant 25]

To be honest about all of this s~~~ is the part where I say, ” Hey, dumb f~~~, I’ve got proof that they are trying to extinct your ass.” And the reply is, “Isn’t that a conspiracy theory?” and I say, “No dumb f~~~, look at the f~~~ing links” and the discussion ends. To be honest, that’s the part that really freaks me out. It’s a little like talking to brain dead zombies in a theatrical production, only this isn’t and theatrical production and you should be madder than f~~~. But you’re not.

 

They plan to extinct your ass. All of the problems with women, with wives, with the family – it was all planned. Their plan was to f~~~ you over and all I’m looking for is some kind of mother f~~~ing sign that you are still f~~~ing alive.

[Anonymous 13]

Stone, I enjoyed reading your posts.  Its good to know other men out there get it.

[Anonymous 13]

Stone you contributed the most in this thread, touche

[StoneParticipant 25]

Thanks. I learned a long time ago that sometimes it’s better to say what you’re really thinking and then apologize for it later. This is one of those times. I apologize.

The guy who wrote this told me about this site:

http://www.savethemales.ca/confirmedrockefeller_plan_to_g.html

I thought to myself, “Sweet. Men talking about how they are being f~~~ed over & it doesn’t sound gay.”

This might be a good place to unload what I have spent the last twenty years trying to figure out. The problem is that these rich pricks who think they are God’s gift to the world have decided that there are too many people in the world and it is up to them to do something about it. Or at least, that is their excuse for their sick, f~~~ed up view of the world. They hire the best & the brightest of the psychology world to form think tanks to figure us out. It is what you would call a psyops over an extended period of time.

The best way to describe it: there was this town where they were being overrun with wild hogs. A rancher came in and said he could fix the problem. He fed the wild boars every day and then he would drive off. They got use to him over time. He started putting up sections of fence and the boars didn’t think anything of it, they were getting use to him and he fed them every day. He would put up a new section of fence while they were eating and then come back the next day. Eventually, all of the fence was up except for one section. The boars went to get their food and he put up the last section of fence. They were trapped.

That is what they are doing to us. It is very much like animal husbandry. They slowly make changes in society and we are not too alarmed with them. We become acclimated to the changes. All they while they have a very definite strategy they are following. That strategy in our case is to create a divide between the sexes. While everyone here may be acknowledging that things are f~~~ed up between men and women. Many are not understanding that the reason they are f~~~ed up is because some f~~~ing assholes decided a long time ago that they needed to take an active roll in making sure we stopped breeding.

“Literally, it’s the fact they don’t want you there.”

http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_1029_Internet__Sold_by_Lies_Despicable__Monitors_You_Who_Must_Be_Predictable_Feb232012.html

THAT is what it’s all about & literally this site wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for these assholes. Thanks for opening the discussion again. When I first came here, for some reason I wasn’t able to open a new thread so I had to choose the closest topic to post in. I chose this one and it’s probably just as well because more than likely I would have called it, “NAZI’S ARE IN YOUR PANTS!” or something similar.

 

 

[LupusParticipant 214]

Regarding how I would envision our “next” civilization or evolution of current civilization would roughly be:

 

We would need some sort of Decorum, a set of rules for the sexes. (Like the Victorian age, but mostly in social interaction) Society is artificial after all and only strict rules hold it together, seeing as we are constantly fighting our human nature and baser instincts.

But we would have to mix it with certain liberties and freedoms that we possess today, it will require greater minds than mine to find the proper balance between the two.

 

[Level UpperParticipant 0]

What should we do for society?

We act as the mentors, fathers and guides for men who question the norm, who have realized that our cultures are, in fact, designed to quell all men into timid and compliant tools.  We occasionally take a dip in the sea of bulls~~~, standing firm in our beliefs with others, so that we keep that feeling of cleanliness fresh in our souls.  We maintain the moral high ground for what it is and nothing more, rediscovering the true idea of a good man.  We do these things gracefully, without hate and without exception.  And then, we retreat to our personal kingdoms (occasionally with worthwhile company), happy and free.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

My way is not your way.  I want a way that works for me, that doesn’t have to screw with the way you want things.  My way is not collectivist, but individual.  I am still working on it.  Beyond that, I can’t say.  As of this second, I am putting away laundry and that is of greater importance than pondering utopia at this second.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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