Attachment, Exclusivity, & Accountability

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Since this is such an open forum with like-minded people, I want to know your guys experience in this subject as it relates to women.

 

It seems every woman I have met feels no true sense of attachment, exclusiveness, and accountability in a relationship. In fact, it is precisely the opposite. Society portays women as monogamous, nurturing, caring, and even being clingy. Most of my encounters with women have been the opposite (save a few women older than me who were from different countries)…the rest? My impression was that they could justify f~~~ing some stranger because the “stars and moon were aligned JUST right”.<—–how many girls or strippers have asked you what your “sign” is in an attempt to guage you? Unf~~~ing real!

 

My question is: in most of your experiences with women, did you feel as though you were more faithful, accountable, and thus “attached” than she was?

Perhaps at some time in history were the more “attached” ones, but I dont believe that to be the case anymore.

Final note: I was perusing some porn yesterday, and saw this clip inside a strip club with male dancers. F~~~ing dude (the stripper) was walking from table to table, smearing whip cream on his c~~~ and MANY women were licking his dick. Good God, that ia disgusting! I would love to hear more stories from key master on this because he used to work in a club like that. Ive pulled home girls from strip clubs and wouldnt go down on them because I knew they were grinding their pussy on that filthy pole and other dudes laps all night….And I was drunk!

 

Lol…f~~~ing sick

Resident cynic.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Men love women & worship them.

Women love shoes & worship them.

Simple ☺

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Yeah well 7 years in night clubs (part time) every weekend and I could go on for about a f~~~ing MONTH on that – with stories that would turn your hair white. All true. I’m glad you read it. It was the only job I ever remember walking out on because I couldn’t f~~~ing look at that sick s~~~ anymore.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

My question is: in most of your experiences with women, did you feel as though you were more faithful, accountable, and thus “attached” than she was?

Of course. That’s totally normal. Because the investment is higher. When you bring more to the table than she does (and she EXPECTS this), naturally your going to be accountable… because women EXPECT you to be. You’re going to be more faithful – because cheating is HARDER for men – and not as easy women love to pretend. Sex doesn’t just happen because we say “yes” and spread our legs. That’s why women say s~~~ like “it was just something that haaaappppened“.

7 years in night clubs seeing 300 women a night and how they behave – compared to the MEN at the strip club downstairs.. who keep their hands to themselves, remain generally quiet, clap and tip once in a while getting a little dance where they are thrown out if they even touch her in the wrong way…. while the feature girl at the bachelorette parties are taking it up the ass 2 days before the wedding. That’s the reality, boys. Have no illusions. Those scenes of a male stripper with whipped cream off his dick as a row of chicks lick it off (one after the other) is not lying to you. In the strip club downstairs, it was practically quiet and you could hear just the music when you walk it. I wore earplugs to block out the screaming. SCREAMING. Like they never saw a dick before.

Consider what she WANTS….. and what you actually GET.

That’s what love is. Your overwhelming desire to GIVE.
To her… it’s an overwhelming desire to GET.
And when women aren’t “getting”.. they are miserable.

A “relationship” according to her outline is whatever SHE wants. It’s all about HER.

Until she invests more in you, it’s clear who experiences the bigger sense of loss.
Especially when you’re expected to pay for HER mistakes.

When you cheat, you’re the asshole bastard who should pay.
When she cheats, you’re the asshole bastard who should pay – because you didn’t “take care of her needs”.

With that dynamic, you’re not alone in your line of thought here.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I was just talking to a buddy about this the other night… I proposed the following:

The hallmark of a Good Man is that he gives a f~~~. He designs, builds, repairs, cares for, restores, curates, preserves and defends something or someone that means something to him. Doing so makes him feel useful and contributes to the material wealth, stability and security of society (even if he is ghost MGTOW, he at least gives a f~~~ for himself).

The hallmark of a Good Woman is loyalty. She stands by herself and her ideals, the man she has selected to be with, her children, friends, community, faith and family. Doing so makes her feel connected and contributes to the social order, stability and meaningfulness of society.

Women are no longer loyal. Hypergamy, entitlement, drama, fashion, social media… they are all expressions of women who are not loyal to ideals, values, men or people… they are only loyal to having a good time without cost or consequence to themselves. This is why men today are, increasingly, running out of f~~~s to give.

[SMADParticipant 651]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

how many girls or strippers have asked you what your “sign” is in an attempt to guage you?

Haha, I tell them (honestly) that I am a Scorpio…

That’s enough to push away MOST women as they see Scorpio as “too much hard work” hahahha 🙂

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[Anonymous 12]

I was once in a long distance relationship with a woman. I loved her passionately and although of course I missed the physical closeness the emotional intimacy more than made up for it as far as I was concerned. I was willing to deal with the distance until we were able to be together physically and I had a plan to make that happen I just needed 6 more months.

I was rather surprised at how important sex was to her having been brought up to believe that it was us men who were horny controlled by our c~~~s stupid dogs. She would be quite obsessive about the sex or lack thereof and I would just think sure it’s tough but what about everything else.

Anyway after 2 years together with occasional times together and she knowing that in 6 months it would all change she decides that she just can’t do without regular sex for any longer and tells me that she thinks we “should see other people” which I translated as meaning she was already seeing someone else.

My other observation is a lot of women now days are big on the Leftie politics and experimentation so many have been sucked into the concept of open relationships and “Polygamy” etc. They get to play the field and don’t care if their partner also plays. Just as many men think it is all a great idea too.

 

[experiencedParticipant]

Hint: If they are playing the field in any way shape form or title, a relationship doesn’t exist.

 

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[narwhalParticipant]

For me, I was either fully committed or I wasn’t committed at all.  I never did the date several women at a time thing, but did date some who did.  That’s not to say I’d be smother, but if there was someone I wanted to pursue, I took the rest of the irons out of the fire.

But in general, I think KM has it right.  Men generally invest more, and are therefore more committed, accountable, etc.  They generally have to risk rejection, pay for meals and events, etc.  Women just have to show up.  So if it doesn’t work out, they’ve lost nothing.    The exception seems to be when the guy’s a real asshole, then they try much harder to keep him for some stupid reason.  That same guy invested very little in her, so he’s got no problem moving on .

Even when it comes to ending a marriage, the woman will typically be the first to bail…she’s much less invested.  She keeps the cash, gets a free regular babysitter, the sympathy of all her friends, and gets to date again.  Of course, it doesn’t work out as nicely as she planned, but that’s the consequences don’t look that bad for a woman.

Ok. Then do it.

[TheGouliatParticipant 20]

Mythbusters had an episode on “Gender wars”. They called women in a Room( like 30 or so) and showed em pictures of men with infos, where they live, what they do as a job.

 

They have gone to full s~~~ like in the badest strip club you have seen. And there are no naked pictures or something like that. there it is ON TAPE and ON TV how women behave. If men would behave like this we would be called sexist s~~~lords. Even Cary admitted that this expierence was strange for her to see like wimen behave.

[GrumpyParticipant]

KM hit it with one word. Remarkably I see that word a lot throughout the forums and topics here. Yet all men fail to see it, despite that word being right there in front of us. I am guilty of missing the the word, and its meaning as well.

That word is “illusion”. Once identified it has no power over you.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

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