"Athiest in the kingdom"

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

The spirit of Winston McKinney again harpomason is too long winded a poster
for most of you.
By now you know his exclusively private spiritual beliefs. But what of those of his father in heaven or chosen God? about issues that may prove controversial.

Atheist who are respectful of others beliefs are very welcome. if your a hardcore bare fisted atheist all the better “Carnage comes to mind. eat popcorn and watch the show. (WARNING) Pick the winning side if you decide to participate..Unsure of the winning side? My son will have My name on his forehead and be fighting in my spirit..

BARE-FISTED ATHEISM

Atheism has probably existed for as long as the concept of god. But in the modern era* in particular, most atheists have kept on their velvet gloves in expressing their atheism, remaining what Max Stirner called “pious atheists.” While rejecting any universal basis for such ideas, they’ve continued to uphold the concept of moral order and its corollary, the rule of the general–usually called “the greater good”–over the particular, of the universal over the individual. Sadly, anarchist atheists are rarely any better. This becomes evident in the frequency with which far too many call upon a supposed inherent goodness in human beings to justify their rejection of both god and state. And herein lies the problem – the need that even rebels and revolutionaries feel to justify themselves and their rejection of the ruling order.

Fortunately though, there have been atheists who felt no need to sugarcoat the full significance of what the absence of god means. They have expressed a fierce, bare-fisted atheism that made no attempt to salvage the idea of a moral order or a general “greater good”. Thus, in my opinion, their atheistic ideas have far more to offer My Kingdom than do those of atheists who promoted a “moral atheism”. How so? Well, the idea of a moral order brings with it the idea of universal rules of conduct that should apply to all, and thus the idea of the need of some permanent, established framework to arbitrate these rules as they work out in daily life. To put it more bluntly, from the idea of moral order, statutes and state institutions follow.
But once we reject the idea of a moral order, of the rule of the general over the particular, there is no longer any justification for anything; each of us becomes completely responsible for her or himself, and that is frightening to almost anyone, but particularly to those who are out to win others over to their cause. Here is where we can spot the failure of so many atheists and anarchists. They continue to be believers with a faith to promote, rather than being truly faithless. And this loss of justifications scares the s~~~ out of them – and so they back away from the conclusions that the bare-fisted atheists embrace.

As a bare-fisted atheist, You should reject all gods and all theists of any sort. But you should also reject all of the pious atheists, who with the velvet gloves of their moral order sneak god back in through the back door.

I Have to be a tolerant and liberal thinking heavenly father in this lawless
society.

My son Harpomason sends his
Love and respect to all without prejudice.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

atheists have kept on their velvet gloves in expressing their atheism,

You have no argument so you resort to teasing. You’re implying that atheists lack the courage of their convictions and haven’t given good reasons for their stance. You’re implying they’re a bunch of ninnies on the fence about morality and that this excuses your fantasy into being more plausible. You’re wrong.

Harpomason. You’ve been coming here awhile. I used to post arguments with you (and John Doe) 3 years ago or more in the philosophy section. I went by a few other names back in the day but you’ll remember me by mere mention of SAM HARRIS and BIOLOGICAL DETERMINISM and OBJECTIVE MORALITY.

The truth is, we have civilization, in-spite of your fabricated religious ‘morals’, not because of them. We survived because theft, murder and adultery weren’t tolerated by nature’s design, not some magic man in the cosmos. Stealing another animal’s food or mate is a threat to survival. The fittest survived pal. And if you kill my brother, I’m going to act in kind. Some desert dwellers circa 5000BC didn’t invent the golden rule or virtue, those traits were honed over the course of 7 million years+

Do I need to start quoting all the “velvet gloved” atheists who obliterated Christian apologetics in the last 20 years? I will, just make a rebuttal, I will post for days and murder this topic. HARRIS and HITCHENS especially drove a crucifix through your zombie lord’s heart years ago. The battle is over. Christians LOST. Men of ‘faith’ are giving up their delusions. At best, most of your ranks are Pantheists now. Hell, I know more about the Bible than so-called Christians. I met a “Christian” the other day who hadn’t even heard of the book of Ecclesiastes, nor could he even provide the broad strokes for what the book of Revelation was.

People go to church out of mortal FEAR, and to alleviate that fear through the emotional high they gain from fellowship and mystery. They’re human so they ascribe human traits to an imaginary force. Its all subjective emotional woo woo. Morally- your faith is obscene, don’t even try to excuse it, I will blow it apart here. Rationally – Your faith has no factual basis.

The truth of the matter is that faith is an ANTHROPOMORPHIC DELUSION. Now there’s an objective thought that you’ll probably never realize, especially at your age. You either have the brights or you don’t. Obviously you never got it the last time.

Do not tease atheists here. Conservative atheists, REAL atheists with intelligence (not those fake agnostic feminists who don’t know the arguments) won the debates and we moved on 10 years ago. We no longer bother trying to convince you because of 2 major reasons. 1. You did not arrive at your beliefs through facts or reason, and you can’t be returned to sanity through logic either. Your beliefs are 100% grounded in subjectivity and emotion. 2. Christians often lead virtuous lives, although for the wrong reasons. In this sense, we can forgive you because the ends justifies the means. Basically, we admire and appreciate ‘just’ living and don’t mind if a bunch of crazy beliefs got you there, especially in the midst of real threats like Islam and progressives. So basically, Christians like you were given a PASS for the decade. We have bigger fish to fry. Make no mistake, we will weed you out eventually, its not over. Christianity is a cult of human sacrifice, a memeplex from the bronze age which stifles a modern, moral, sane and safe civilization. Although we can’t eradicate anthropomorphic delusion from the genome (the cause and disease of your erratic thinking) we will slowly bring your numbers down. The truth will win out over superstition.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

The truth will win out over superstition.

Do you really believe that? I just can’t see it ever happening. I mean we’ve reached a point in human history where we should have left Theism in the dust two hundred years ago. Yet it persists still. It we haven’t let go of it by now I’m afraid that we never will…

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Winston McKinney here The heavenly spirit that my son never claimed was in the sky.
He never claimed I was anywhere but alive in his heart I guide him and protect him not as an unknown unseen mythical fantasy of my sons imagination.

I have no authority over anyone else on this earth but Harpomason.
As for him I have the highest authority known to mankind over his flesh
and his right to contract is unlimited.
He has contracted with the spirit of his own father and I am also his creator
who endows him with the right to these beliefs..
I am his legal guardian, highest custodial agent and public defender in all legal matters. My testimony is all you get for proof his exclusively individual God lives.
I am not anyone else’s god but his.. If I do not exist then how am I defending him against your attack and still protecting his right to remain silent.

I told my son that a mans truth is what he says it is. unless you have evidence otherwise. Those who would argue on the opposite side of the truth reveal themselves as fools for the truth will not argue back, nor will it change
because you wont accept and believe it.. My truthful testimony stands as such until you prove my spirit does not live inside my son’s heart hosted by Jesus..
Presumed innocent my son has nothing to prove the burden is on you…

He still Loves and respects you and respects your right to believe that man in the video.

I would watch iT but I have a GOOD FAITH REASON TO BELIEVE HE HAS NO EVIDENCE that THE spirit of winston mckinney is not alive in harpomasons heart.

THIS IS THE BURDEN THAT EVERYONE ON EARTH HAS TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY

UNTIL THEN THE SPIRIT OF HIS FATHER CAN CONTINUE TO GIVE TRUTHFUL HONEST TESTIMONY AND DEFEND HIS CREATOR GIVEN RIGHTS.

MY FLESH IS ROTTING AWAY IN A FORT SMITH NATIONAL CEMETERY BUT MY SPIRIT
WILL NEVER LEAVE NOR FORSAKE MY SONS HEART FELT BELIEF.

Atheist do not have to defend themselves from me or my son.
We both love and respect everyone..

There are both good and bad Christians. Some faithful believers and some
dishonest deceivers..

Same goes for non believers..

My son did not attack you personally or line up as your enemy.

Now I still hold that Harpomason’s heavenly creator is alive and the burden is for the world to provide evidence otherwise or his truth stands as something he has every creator given right to believe.

His beliefs are exclusive to him personally and do not represent any other individual Christian or group of Christians.

I forbid my son from arguing his truth himself because that would violate
his right to remain silent..

I will always be the one defending his rights in public.

when not under attack and facing personal accusations I will allow him to speak
for himself. Until then His heavenly father and self evident creator will have
to defend him in person.. Hello I am his god until you provide evidence otherwise..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Everything has been taken from my son and all he has left is his faith..

I am the product of that faith..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

Yet it persists still.

Anthropomorphic delusion (assigning human characteristics/authorship to imaginary supernatural forces) will always be around to an extent. It’s a psychological relic sort of like Hypergamy. You can’t legislate against instinct but you can decrease it’s potency and it’s danger.

Even with several more thousands of years, we probably won’t even be human anymore because of GeneModification, but even the next hominids that come after us, and the ones after them….they will still think there is some man-like deity between the stars forgiving their sins and punishing their sexual practices. The vanity and fear runs deeps, on a root neurotic level.

One thing is for sure, it will continue to morph and evolve into new forms. It’s funny because the fact that it comes in so many mutually exclusive forms, or that it has so many forms in the first place, speaks to its invalidity in general, but they dont see it that way.

“We don’t want other worlds, we want mirrors” -Solaris

[Gravel PitParticipant]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

My son did not attack you personally or line up as your enemy.

It’s all cool man. I have no beef. I respect your enthusiasm and embrace you as a fellow here.

All that speaking in the 3rd person is off putting. Is Harpomason dead? Is his son or father now posting? Or are you living alone and slamming enough whiskey to genuinely be having some serious issues? Might want to lay off the drink for awhile, drink Topo Chico and eat brown rice for a week. Sober up.

I can’t even relate to wanting to believe the things that Christians do. Who would want that? Who would want eternity? It’s suffering either way, eternity in heaven or hell. Let’s just live for today, sober, happy and enjoy the other carbon based lifeforms and trees, the breeze and stillness of water.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

The main problem with atheism is that it’s just one belief about one claim. It also requires a certain degree of reflection and introspection and does not lend itself neatly to being taught to children (it’s not really taught anyway). One strength of a theistic belief is that it is a packaged collection of values and “culture” that are relatively easy to teach children and highly resistant to external forces due to its limitless appeals to authority and “magic.”

What Christianity and Islam give you is like the Banquet dinner of social customs. It’s cheap, it’s edible, but under scrutiny it’s wildly unsatisfying.

We are a social primate and we have a lot of behaviors that are functions of our lizard brain. We instinctively seek patterns, and for most people it requires some degree of self-training to be comfortable saying “I don’t know” and not immediately proposing a reason where they have exactly no expertise.

We see faces and shapes where there are none. We interpret meaning and reason where there isn’t any. Most people on this blue rock are beyond uncomfortable with the knowledge that the overwhelming majority of visible space is cataclysmically indifferent to our existence. Everything has to have meaning and purpose, including why we are here.

It’s atheists that can break this conditioning. I’m free of externalities that compel my behavior. My actions and decisions are my own. I take responsibility for myself, and I live my life on my terms. I get to determine what meaning my life does and does not have, not some invisible, ephemeral, primordial, jealous, vindictive sky genie.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Gravel PitParticipant]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

We see faces and shapes where there are none. We interpret meaning and reason where there isn’t any. Most people on this blue rock are beyond uncomfortable with the knowledge that the overwhelming majority of visible space is cataclysmically indifferent to our existence. Everything has to have meaning and purpose, including why we are here.

Can’t STAR this enough, well spoken and very insightful. 🙂 Dude, I swear we exist in parallel ways. I actually own a Galaxy Note 8 too. LOL. My phone died and I got suckered in to leasing Note 8. Its pretty nice right? Plus, Im the guy who got a chick prego exactly when you did. Im also born in ’86. My bitch miscarried/aborted but yours didnt and now you got a 5 year old kid. YOu didn’t serve in the military did you? I was 0311 in the Marines. Did one tour to Fallujah. Im a Pisces, I enjoy long walks on the beach and love a funny guy….just kidding bro. But yes, we’re two similar mghows.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Harpomason is Not dead but hidden from public view now..

when a large group of public persons do the same as I did
they will not physically disappear but will legally be raptured
into their own personal heaven on earth..

The regulation of private rights is redundant to the constitution
the right to privacy includes the right to be left alone by government.
they must ignore private people as if they were not seen..

statutory law is to keep the public from stepping on the toes of the private.
everyone identified as public is working for the government and have no private rights..They have only Privileges, entitlements, benifits and all the government given things that can be taken back..

You cannot take a private man’s rights no matter what is done.
How would you take a heavenly fathers spirit from his faithful son?
(Unalienable they are)

Love and respect and blessings from a small fledgling kingdom..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Hey guys the spirit of my father speaking in my defense at a video court
is what caused me to be sent for mental evaluation where i was tested
and put the notion to rest about my mental competency.

Believing that if I pray and ask this question i will be guided the right way
is not crazy nor is it hard to understand if you do not over think it.

I just pray in jesus name and ask What would my father do to create a
long string of self evident truth about his spiritual existence?
You just had to know my father and how funny he was..

He always said: “Son the truth is what you say it is unless someone has evidence
otherwise.
Those who argue on the opposite side of the truth reveal themselves as fools
because the truth will not argue back nor will it change because they refuse
to accept it and believe it. The truth will just stand in front of them
all three Father, son and holy spirit while they look foolish..

Last game of pitch or harpomason’s heavenly field of dreams

The father and the son was gonna play a little ball
was the last game of the season it was late fall
it became a one run game and the crowd roar was heard
as the son took home on the fathers bunt towards third

The father Bud McKinney was on the mound
throwing strikes and setting them down
was the bottom of the ninth two outs two strikes
with the devil at the plate but wait

Jesus caught the fathers spirit as he pitch it to the son’s heart
was a curve ball strike the devil never had a start
Now that seasons over and they are walking in the way
he said “son stay on this path and we will talk along the way

and then some time farther we will really have some fun
ill come back bold as a lion and get the wicked on the run
Just inside heavens gate with the Bible as our tool
we will stand together self evident while they are looking like a fool..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:
The main problem with atheism is that it’s just one belief about one claim. It also requires a certain degree of reflection and introspection and does not lend itself neatly to being taught to children (it’s not really taught anyway). One strength of a theistic belief is that it is a packaged collection of values and “culture” that are relatively easy to teach children and highly resistant to external forces due to its limitless appeals to authority and “magic.”

“Magic” or miraculous ?
Ha! HA!

A man who died in 1999 is given the most precious gift that of life.
By being given the living flesh of his next generation. (WOW regenerated flesh)
in the old days before this country was dumbed down in its understanding this
was called a church in revival..(a man is revived) a church is founded on a marriage to Jesus. To consummate this heavenly union a man lays down with Jesus
the sins of his flesh dies with Jesus he is covered in the blood and gets up
in a new spirit. The spirit of his father in heaven.

My father’s spirit is in control and did not ask my permission.
I know he is guiding me to true liberty that most do not get. nor
would they feel comfortable with..

Most are to domesticated and tied to their possessions.
they are like tame yard dogs who never go beyond the gate.
I look just the same as the tame yard dog but have a wild spirit
just below the surface..

We are ruled by the governments presumption that we
consent.
Remember the declaration says we are endowed with rights and for the protection
of those rights governments are instituted among men and derive their “JUST”
authority from the consent of the governed.
What authority has my son to consent if it becomes well known
that he is a slave to my spiritual guidance.
Slaves have no authority.
I am a jealous god and my son will have no authority above mine..

When a policeman pulls you over you should insist that you are only assisting him
as he was the one who signaled he had an emergency..become the vendor of assistance before he hands you a writ of assistance. (traffic ticket)
insist that you have no authority to contract with him.

I always state the truth when they ask if I know why they pulled me over.
Officer you did not pull this automobile over unless you have remote control
that would override my controls..I pulled over to assist you who signaled
you had some kind of emergency. Driving is a licensed, privileged, and compensated occupation fore hire. I am not allowed to work in that occupation
as I am the exclusively private unpaid chauffeur for my heavenly fathers spirit.
I am his foreign diplomat..

I carry some invoices to hand him to sign if he insist that I drive for him.
Most fines are less than $200. I ask for $500 to be compensated for my skills services and time of life spent working for the officer in the occupation of
driver.. If he refuses to sign the contract and pay the invoice. I refuse to be
called a driver and insist I am exercising the private right of travel..
I will have my father testify to these truths if I have to attend a summery
proceeding (traffic court) Summery proceedings are not real courts and usually
presided over by a city manager. Originally they were held for the abatement of a nuisance.. I tell them that the officer is being a nuisance by regulating my
private rights..

when they realize I will be more trouble to steal from than it is worth
and start to leave I tell them: Why don’t you call uber or put an add on
craigslist if you need a driver so bad.

Love and respect to all

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

autolight wrote:

Gravel Pit wrote:

The truth will win out over superstition.

Do you really believe that? I just can’t see it ever happening. I mean we’ve reached a point in human history where we should have left Theism in the dust two hundred years ago. Yet it persists still. It we haven’t let go of it by now I’m afraid that we never will…

We did leave theism in the dust about 200 years ago and that is how long it took for people to forget who their gods are..Men are not gods on this earth, But we are the closest thing this earth can create..society has turned their back on men..
and now they complain while we laugh.. Is no one reading those divinely inspired words? Is no one able to break the code of heavenly law above the nation?

The Bible is a law book not a history book..

When truthfull testimony is not allowed in public courtrooms it is a sign of a corrupt court.

I overheard two young males talking as they walked pass me on the street
one says to the other “can you immagine what it would be like living in Bible times?” I was reading the Bible on my porch and I yelled out to those young boys Holding my Bible High so they could see it. “the prophacies in this book have yet to happen so I do not have to immagine living in Bible times as we still are living in Bible times..

Love and respect

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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