At College So Sex? and Talking About MGTOW With Friends

[Foxtrot November GolfParticipant 28]

So, I’m a 19 year old guy, recently got back from army OSUT, who is about to college in January. I’m also a virgin and nature be damned, part of me really wants to find a pretty girl that I can tolerate enough to have sex with, at least once. I mean f~~~, I’ve only kissed a girl once. However, since I took the red pill, the big head is in charge, so I’m kind of leaning towards “hell no, f~~~ that idea, lube + hand = less work and similar result”. The thought process is still rolling, so I’m just wondering if anyone has any input or advice on that before school starts and opportunities arise. .

I’m also wondering what you guys think the best way to share MGTOW knowledge with a friend is. For obvious reasons, I’d like to be really sure before trying anything. I’ve had one friend take the info through some TFM and Sandman videos okay, but his dad was divorced so I think it connected with him more than it would with a lot of others.

Anyways, it’s late as hell and I’m going to bed. Thank you for your time,

FNG

[RoyDalParticipant]

I have nothing against getting laid. In fact, I rather like it. That in mind, I recommend not dating girls at your college. There are too many false rape accusations going around these days. (I’m assuming you are in North America, United Kingdom, or Europe.)

Find your way to a place where prostitution is not illegal and buy yourself some time with a working girl from a clean establishment. Or hire an escort. This seems costly on the face of it, but it costs no more than a string of expensive dates. As an added benefit, there is not going to be any emotional backlash or phony assault charges — and these can be really costly, even to the point of getting you kicked out of college with no chance of getting another.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

I’ve been in a college a few years, but I have chosen to remain a virgin. That said, if you choose to find a girl, I would say college is a bad place to do so. You are paying to study at school, so I would imagine starting a relationship at school would serve as a distraction. On top of that, the rape hysteria on campus creates a bad environment. Every student at my school gets email reports on reported rape allegations that describe the suspect (always male) and instruct female students on how to avoid rape. Every girl on campus reads this and knows, if she decides she doesn’t like you, that she can ruin your life with a rape accusation. Surely some of the guys here can help suggest places to look for lays outside of school.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Brother, only talk about MGTOW with a man that you trust your life with.

If your friend is from that kind, then by all means, show it to him, he will thank you later, but be aware that the red pill causes a huge shock in someone who never saw the reason behind ghosting. But even if he gets shocked, he will realize it, because MGTOW philosophy is f~~~ing logical, like math, and right as an atomic clock.

My advice for you campus is STAY THE F~~~ AWAY from women. The game in there is far more rigged against you than in the work market or in any other place. It is from campus that the main c~~~s come from, so you are really neck deep in the suck. But, your choices are embrace it and die, or ghost your way out, like a f~~~ing sniper, and in the end win in the long run.

Be safe, be quiet and be quick, mate. The man who keeps his head low in the battlefield always wins.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Foxtrot November GolfParticipant 28]

So there were a bunch of replies from other guys like an hour ago before the site had some issues and some of their posts dissapeared. A few guys posted some videos that illustrate with many examples that college females are a no-no. Another guy mentioned that females outside of college might not be as dangerous of an option since there wouldn’t be university authorities to worry about.

And RoyDal, you’re right, there’s always a trip to Nevada ;). The only thing I have against that idea is the travel expenses would probably make it more expensive than finding a girl in town (that’s also NOT in college) and doing the bare minimum for sex, but I have income, savings, and am fortunate enough to have tuition and such covered, so it’s not like a trip to Nevada would be a big set back.

Tiga K, that’s truly terrifying. They literally have you watching the madness as it happens in a sense. Definitely staying away from college women after reading that. Maybe that entire state, too lol.

DarkKenshi, you’re probably right on who to share it with; can’t help everyone. Also thank you for bringing up the red pill rage. That’s something very important to plan for because some of it may be directed toward the one introducing him to this. Any specific input on ghosting? I’ve always just keep to myself and my friends and try to keep it friendly, but strictly business with strangers. Oh, and no dressing like a pretty boy.

Also, I forgot to put this in OP last night, and I’d really appreciate input since the guy involved is a close friend of mine: One of my friends has been dating a girl since freshman year in high school and I know it’s a matter of time until he tries to propose, but I have no idea what I’d try to say. She sets off various alarms whenever I’ve had the chance to interact with her, the way my friend acts towards myself and other friends is clearly influenced by her a lot (won’t hang out or play video games as much, won’t say “retard” because she hates that, quit working out so could get extra hours at work, he even wanted to join the army national guard with me before her), and she’s just mean and annoying in general. Oh and she did theater all of high school, so the drama of a failed marriage and divorce probably makes her moist. They go to different colleges that are in the same city, so I’m kind of hoping female nature will fix the problem before it needs to be addressed (hypergamy or cheating), but it’d obviously be better if he unf~~~ed himself on his own terms. I seriously have no idea what to say to him, or whether or not I even should.

Anyways, I’m interested to see more thoughts, especially about discussing MGTOW with friends and how to effectively ghost, since it’s been brought up. I read somewhere that people, especially women don’t like mustaches; I wonder if a mustache would help lol.

FNG

[WallyParticipant]

Hey FNG, I’ll repost one of the videos here, but it will just re-emphasis what the guys have been saying. I have to agree with DarkKenshi on being careful who you tell about being a MGTOW, I have only told one other man and he once saved my life and is like a father to me. If you tell the wrong person they may tell everyone in order to make themselves look better in the eyes of women.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 26]

repost as well….

[Anonymous 26]

FNG…. reposting again. Earlier I had mentioned that tread lightly while in college as you will be walking through a minefield when it comes to dealing with women on campus. Best to focus on your studies and not mix business with pleasure…. Never s~~~ in the same place where you eat. Also…. never dip your pen in the company ink.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Foxtrot November Golf wrote:

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DarkKenshi, you’re probably right on who to share it with; can’t help everyone. Also thank you for bringing up the red pill rage. That’s something very important to plan for because some of it may be directed toward the one introducing him to this. Any specific input on ghosting? I’ve always just keep to myself and my friends and try to keep it friendly, but strictly business with strangers. Oh, and no dressing like a pretty boy.

My advice for you is almost as the same as our brother Bunker Mode would give you:

Focus on your stuff. Your gig is your future, this is the thing that will grant you a life, so, don’t ruin it by putting some pussy or getting involved with one, even in strictly business manners. If you be polite and answer, they think that you may be a friend, and will try to manipulate you, and when you say no, they will activate bitch mode, and f~~~ you up.

So, I don’t even give one of them the time of the day, and if they ask me anything, I just say “Sorry, I am busy”, then I just get the f~~~ out where I was the best I can away from her. In my office, I just smile and say the “Sorry, I am busy” stuff and get back to my s~~~. Some tried to ask me more, and to “why I am so hostile to them”, to where I replied “Because I am extremely busy, and every time that I am interrupted I take a long time to back to total focus”, and then smile.
That way they always get out, and never come back.

I always keep my head down, do my own s~~~, and focus in milking my money, every month, to do my stuff and keep my projects running. The secret to ghost is to focus on DOING, THINKING and to have a few, but really close friends. A dog, if you feel a little more lonely.

That way, you will not be f~~~ed up, by no one.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

1. Having sex at college? You, my friend, need to be extremely careful. I know you’re young, but sex isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. When you’re done, all you’ll be thinking about is how to get her out of your room. When it’s all said and done, weigh it against the time and effort you put in.

2. Don’t preach it. Don’t try to convert people. Don’t give them Kool-Aid. If it comes up, sure, discuss it with them. MGTOW exists and there is plenty of statistics and data for men to use. Then they can go forth as they see fit. It’s about your own way. Not anyone elses.

Fuck this planet.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

What you might point out to your friend is the hazards of marriage. The “After a few years she decides on divorce”, The consequence of said divorce. The forcible extraction of resources by the gov’t from him for her benefit and him not even getting sex out of it. The vaginamony and child support and the halving of anything he owns. Doesn’t matter if he had anything before the marriage or not. The thing is to point out the hazards, let him know of alternatives and let him make up his own mind. That is all you can do!! good luck

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[mp357Participant 531]

as far as escorts go check out the scene in your local area.it might surprise you. and me personally i rarely ever share mgtow with people in real life. in my experience its too risky and they usually flip out. campus sex can be really risky. like it was said before keep your head low be quiet and stealthy.good luck.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Foxtrot November Golf wrote:

I’m also a virgin

Look at this another way. EVERYBODY is born a “virgin”. The only requirement to not be a virgin is to have sex. So… being a virgin isn’t special – or odd. You don’t “admire” a female for being a virgin either….. because all she had to do is NOT have sex. RIGHT?

So it’s not “special” or “rare”.
She doesn’t get a star in heaven for being one.
And you won’t get a star in heaven for NOT being one.

If the subject comes up in everyday conversation, look at other people like they the are gross. With a confused expression on your face. “Man I don’t talk about that with people”.…. and if they give you any teasing or grief about it, ask them why they haven’t pushed so hard to learn OTHER things about you.

Do you play music. Do you ski. How many brothers and sisters do you have. Where were you born. Arte you a stand up a guy. Do you have values. Are you honest. Do you speak any other languages. Do you have family in other countries. How often do you ago there. What’s your favorite food. What have you accomplished. etc……

I wasn’t a virgin anymore at 18, but when someone pushes for your sexual details before making an effort to learn other fundamental things about you….. put it out to them how f~~~ed up and wierd that is to you. That’s what I would tell myself if I were 19 again.

Even if you were NOT a virgin….. people will tease you about “not continuing to get laid” even AFTER you got laid. So consider striking it from your allowable topics. You discuss f~~~ing with ONLY the people you are f~~~ing.

Foxtrot November Golf wrote:

I’m also wondering what you guys think the best way to share MGTOW knowledge with a friend is.

Wouldn’t recommend. If you had a superpower like seeing through clothes or reading minds… would you tell anyone? No. you keep it to yourself.

How I might do it now…. would be if , say, I was having an annoying blue pill conversation, I might say “MGTOW. Look it up”. Or if it were becoming a red pill conversation I might say “checked out MGTOW”. But it’s very much self discovered. You can’t “teach” it to anyone. It’s not a “sales pitch”. It has to be discovered when they are ready.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AntaresParticipant 208]

Think twice about sharing any red pill stuff with ANYONE on a college campus. It may seem like a well intentioned harmless conversation with a guy who’s curious about it. However if he runs his mouth in front of the wrong femi-natzi gestapo agent, that can come back and wreck your future if you get fingered as one of those “MGTOW guys”. Even if your college seems outwardly “fine”, you only need to earn the ire of the one wack job you didn’t see and very bad things can happen.

The best advice I got before going to basic training in the army was: Keep your head down, blend in and don’t stick out, and don’t volunteer for anything. Once you are known, it’s only going to be more hardship. During my 6th week (of 8) in basic there was a weapon inspection. As the drill sergeant looked at my weapon he gets a suspicious look at me and says “Are you in my platoon?”. That’s when I knew I won. Different world, but the theme is the hostile situation (even if it doesn’t look hostile). In the army at least it’s fair. In college you could lose your future over frivolous stupid s~~~. It’s not worth it. Plenty of women off campus. It ain’t that much better than masturbating. Hell it’s rarely better if you ask me.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham

[narwhalParticipant]

For your friend, I agree that it doesn’t make sense to go all mgtow with him. I think you can slip in a few things here and there about your life and your decisions based on rational thought, and he may consider that maybe he should copy some of your life choices. Let him learn by example maybe. But since he’s already caught, maybe the best you can do is just asking him to slow down before proposing. If it’s meant to be, then she’ll be there a year from now, no rush at your age. Stuff like that.

As for the sex, I agree that sex with college classmates is dangerous. One thing to consider, if it’s your fancy, is older women. I had a friend in college who someone hooked up with an early 30s single mom. Not exactly sure how that came about, but he basically went over to her place once or twice a week for sex, then left. She didn’t want anything more from him besides sex. He was a Christian guy and he really felt guilty about it, but it was relatively side effect free besides that. I honestly don’t know if you can hang out at bars catering to an older crowd to meet women like that or what.

However, as Key said, nothing wrong with where you’re at now. It’s not a problem that needs solving, and no bodies business.

In the past, boys usually went through a rite of passage to become a man. Perhaps it was a successful hunt, quest, or something physical feat. Now, it’s getting laid, for whatever silly reason. If you ask me, you’ve ‘proven your manhood’ by joining the army in a much better way they losing your virginity ever could.

Ok. Then do it.

[experiencedParticipant]

@ Antares, when he looked in my weapon there was a “dymo” label in it that said, “no dust here asshole.”
A fond memory but not at the time.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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