Asian Women and Two-Facedness

[HeartCrossedAngelParticipant 19]

I apologize in advance if this topic appears to be racially inclined. Let me give you some background.

I am an Asian-Canadian myself, Chinese-Canadian to be exact. I was pretty much born and raised here and do not have an identity crisis like more recent Asian immigrants to Canada. In my mind, I am a proud Canadian of Chinese heritage. It’s as simple as that.

I heard that the men in mgtow tend to be more allured towards women of Asian heritage whether it’s Asian-American/Canadian or actual women living in Asia. I’d like to make clear that I am not one of those insecure Asian men who is angry about Asian women dating white guys. I am for relationships that are genuine. The key word is GENUINE. I actually pity many of the white men I see who are dating Asian girls. You can spot these kind of couples from afar. It is very obvious that they have nothing in common but are together because the Asian woman sees white guys as a status symbol. It’s like having an Armani handbag. She can show him off to her friends and show society how “different and progressive” she is. In public, she will play that demure submissive wife stereotype but in reality, she will sink her claws into him. And if the relationship fails, believe me, Asian women are natural born accountants and you can’t win against her when it comes to negotiating financial settlements. She’s got a spreadsheet in her head.

I was raised by an Asian woman. I have dated many Asian women and even had relationships with them. A lot of Asian FOB woman see CBCs such as myself as status symbols, second only to white guys. It was at one point fashionable to date a westernized Asian guy. Anyways, you won’t get a more calculative, manipulative, and strategic female species. When they are cold, they are absolutely frigid.

There is a reason why in developed Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea, there is a “herbivore” movement amongst the males. That’s what Asian women have reduced the men there to. And it will happen to the rest of Asia, particularly China, as it becomes more prosperous. In fact, in some big cities like Shanghai, it’s already happening. Basically, when these countries were economically booming, Asian men were working their asses of to become wealthy and successful and alpha-male and what did it get them in the end? They are now withdrawing and focusing on themselves, very similar to mgtow.

I am 30 now and after over a decade of dating Asian women, I have decided that if I were to ever start dating again, it would be with Caucasian females. I am done with Asian females and when I see an Asian female with a white guy, I feel sorry for the guy as to what he’s getting himself into.

Not saying that caucasian women are much better but there is a larger variation amongst them in terms of personality and outlook in life. Amongst Asian immigrants, there is a very particular type of person that would leave their homeland to strike it out into a foreign country. It’s something I’m not sure Caucasians understand, particularly those of you whose families have been in the Americas for hundreds of years. The type of people that immigrants are tend to be the more devious, calculative, strategic, ambitious and aggressive folk. So imagine what kind of daughters these types of immigrants would bring up. That pretty much sums it up.

Of course at the end of the day, these are generalizations but there is some truth to them and by and large, my entire point is that, women the world over are quite similar. But Asian women have taken it to the extreme and have destroyed their men much more. You only need to go to Japan and South Korea and see how few couples there are and having the lowest birth rates in the world. They went from being amongst the highest birth rates to the lowest birthrate within two generations.

I strongly believe the same is going to happen in Canada and the US and it already is.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Thank you for your interaction – and for joining!

“Racism” works much like “sexism”. Those who love to sling those words (and accusations) around tend to do it when they are enjoying NO BENEFITS. Treating a woman “like a lady” is HIGHLY recommended and encouraged by women…. but treat her “equally” (with no unearned privileges or extended courtesies JUST because she is female) and now you are a “sexist” or “misogynist”. As long as she receives benefits, worship and adoration because she is born with a vagina, “sexism” is perfectly acceptable. And encouraged!

As another example, you can’t even TYPE the word “negro” on Yahoo.
It looks like “*****” because it’s considered “racist”.
But you CAN donate money to “The United Negro College Fund”.

Fascinating, isn’t it.

So talking about Asians or blacks or gays or women as a group, is not remotely “racist” or “sexist”. In order for your comment to qualify as “racism” you would have to wish HARM to them, or deliberately seek with intention to destroy. Pity the rest of the world doesn’t f~~~ing understand these basics. One wonders if they ever will.

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Yes. My first girlfriend was Asian. The BEST girlfriend I had as Asian. The WORST girlfriend I had was Asian. And the most recent girlfriend I had was Asian. (Any other in-betweeners I didn’t get to know as intimately). They are generally no different than any other group of females. But they CAN be as cold as you talk about. They have the ability to go from warm to frigid at the drop of a hat. Like crying on command. It’s quite something to witness. I don’t even know how it’s possible. And I no longer care.

But there is one thing Asian girls AND white chicks have in common.
Their WORST qualities are what they are REALLY like.

.. the GOOD stuff is an ACT.

It takes a while to see them. Just be sure you you don’t wait until the divorce. And be careful out there.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I’m Asian myself and I am thinking moving back to Asia. Canada and USA seems more bat crazy than Asia. Less likely to accused of false rape or domestic abuse. At least the judges in South Korea have some ethics unlike the judges in USA and Canada. In North America feminists making death threats, trying to silence men is just insane. I really want to move back to Korea. Not for women but at least people have no traditional values and ethics due to Confucianism. I don’t know the culture of China which is pretty complex. But it seems China is pretty much atheist so it’s probably more like North America. Whereas South Korea and Japan is different.

I fear someday I will end up in prison of false accusation from a lying c~~~ who I have completely ignore. I have experienced where white women turning women and white knights against me when all I wanted to do is no longer communicate with her. In end the I prefer not to interact with women.

No woman is worth the effort for marriage. Very few would be the effort for a relationship. I just don’t think about women that much. It causes me stress to think about them. 😛

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[HeartCrossedAngelParticipant 19]

@CrazyCanuck.

Interesting thoughts. I agree. Feminism in North America is very strong.

However, I think something else is taking hold in East Asia. I’m not sure what it is or how to call it. But it goes back to the herbivore men in Japan. It’s been labelled that in Japan by intellectuals but it’s happening in South Korea and parts of China as well. I think it has to do with the over-commercialization of society in East Asia and the extreme importance put on social status and face. East Asian culture or Confucian-oriented culture somehow breeds this mentality that won’t accept anything except the best.

China maybe atheist but it’s strongly Confucian which means that the women still somewhat have traditional values and ethics but that doesn’t make them any better than women all over the world. I disagree it’s like North America. I actually think the average white women is better than the average Chinese woman in China. When I say “better”, I mean better values, treatment of men. Not that it’s saying much.

I no longer interact with Asian women unless it’s absolutely necessary. I am actually going to visit China next year because I admire the country’s historical achievements and civilization but I’m going to ignore the women when I’m there. I am completely done with them.

As for white women, I still am willing to interact with them not for any relationship but mainly because I feel there are less smokes and mirrors when dealing with them. More upfront, honest, open, and less judgmental.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

Wow,  i just recently added Japanese women to my list of “races” of which i might find attractive – i’m half Chinese, and since i was 11, i crossed off Chinese women… or more easily Asian women, cause most are ugly \w personality issues.  Then recently, i started getting into Japanese culture, as there are A LOT of things i admire ( their anti-fat laws for one ).

Haven’t really looked into much about Japanese women, or even Asian women, but this post has been a real eye opener as well as with combined with this article i just came across: http://www.returnofkings.com/38058/the-ugly-reality-of-dating-japanese-women

As per my conclusion, based on these two sources:
Never let your guard down regardless of their attractiveness, personality, ethnicity, or culture.

TY OP, for the real eye opener, don’t think i would have dived right into searching about Japanese relationships without it; might of even saved me a potential mistake in the future 😛

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I am VERY pro-Japan. Have been 4 times. I’ve been saying for years I would move there with no hesitation. I like everything about it. But I have heard the culture is taking a dive lately. Otherwise I think it’s fantastic. Yokohama and Osaka were my favorite.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

I really thought feminism was dead and gone in the 60s until lately when it’s saturated in everyday conversations now.

[HeartCrossedAngelParticipant 19]

Asian girls were never taught at a young age to be outwardly polite and cheerful. Now that I think about it, I can’t believe I was attracted to them for so long. Most of them have major personality issues. They’ve got the worst combination: quiet and snobby. Now, an optimistic person would just think, “oh she’s just shy. how cute.” No way. If a shy, cute asian girl really wants something, she will be so assertive that it would shock most white girls.

They are quiet, calculating and strategic. They know exactly what they want and most of the time, it’s a white guy. You pretty much know where you stand with an Asian girl upon first sight. If she likes you, she will make it very obvious. If she doesn’t, don’t even bother. And yah, as for the white guys who end up dating a cute asian girl, I’m not remotely jealous anymore. It may be a sweet deal at first, especially since most of these white guys couldn’t get the same quality with a girl of their own race, but that’s just the beginning. Try being in a relationship with an Asian girl. There’s a reason why she’s with you. She’s using you like a fetish and believe me, after a couple of years of this, it will tire really fast.

Usually after I’ve been overseas and I come home to Canada, at the airport border control, I’m usually greeted nicely by Canadian border security guards. It’s one of the first things I look forward to when I come home. The last time I was overseas, the security guard was this asian girl. She had a sour expression and asked me rude questions and didn’t even smile once and didn’t think me ONCE. The white border security guards beside her were all smiling and being polite and welcoming the travellers home. No, not this bitch.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

@heartcrossedangel  I suggest you watch this video by Stardusk he clearly explains why women don’t want to get married in South East Asia.  Sure there are some men don’t want to get married however  there are by far more women don’t want to get married.

 

 

I would go back to South, Korea in a heart beat if I had the opportunity.  I have no interest in dating women however I can still be falsely accused or rape or violence here in Canada.  I would have a less of a risk in South, Korea.  I seem to only attract much older ladies or much younger neither are ideal for dating material anyways.  The younger ones are not mature enough and older ones usually are very controlling.  It would have to be a special woman for me to have any kind of interest in her.  At the age of 45 I’m pickier than ever. 😛

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[HeartCrossedAngelParticipant 19]

@CrazyCanuck

I think what the guy says is mostly true. However, I disagree that he leaves mainland China out of it.

It’s a cold war propaganda by the west that says the cultural revolution in China changed traditional Chinese culture. You don’t wipe out 3000 years of confucius culture in just 10 years which is how long the cultural revolution lasted. Confucianism is alive and well in China and these same effects described are happening in the urban prosperous areas as well.

I agree that South Korea and Japan tend to take things more to the extreme. Perhaps because things like confucianism were imported and not indigenous to the culture and so they interpreted it and applied it to a more extreme level. Whereas Chinese confucianism is more at a very grassroots level, it’s almost embedded into the Chinese DNA. It can’t ever really be destroyed. I think the situation is probably better in China for men but not by much.

I also disagree Japanese and South Korean women prefer to be single. Western caucasian men have a lot of success in those countries. Asians are naturally attracted to the tall, round eyed, sharp-featured angular look. So an average looking white guy who has those features will be a big hit in Asia. Then all that stuff about not wanting a relationship goes out the door. Of course there are good looking Japanese and South Korean men who have those features too and they generally do very well in the dating world.

It’s the same with how Asian men are toward white girls. If you take a skinny white girl and a skinny asian girl, the skinny white girl is more attractive. Asian guys love that barbie doll look. The blonde hair, the blue/green eyes, white skin, etc. I’ve seen a lot of Asian men who can get hot white girls but generally, they are quite successful in dating girls of ALL races including Asian.

For average asian guys, it really is like rolling a boulder up a hill. They have to be financially successful, be in the right social groups and know the right people, live in the right area. A whole bunch of factors have to come together. And on top of that, they have to try really hard and face a lot of rejection. I’m one of these kinda guys except I’ve lost the willpower and the capacity to take anymore rejection.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

As far as a the Two-Facedness goes, I feel to certain extent that is true. I grew up in a Predominant Asian populated area of town. Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Etc.. After awhile you can distinguish from a Japanese, and a Korean pretty quick. I dated  Asian girls growing up, I grew up with the culture, ate the food, and could speak every little bit of lingo they spoke, so it was easy to date Asian girls where I’m from.

 

What I did notice later on was, girls who were dating a non-Asian in teenage years and early 20s was not really a status thing but a Rebellious “f~~~ you” to their parents. in high school this Japanese girl I knew dated a lot of white and black guys and was known as a flirt in school, she later had her sights on me, and we dated for a short time, but i soon learned she pretty much only wanted my dick, but other then that? nothing more.

 

I once approached her in class to ask about something and she yelled in the class “Ewww why the f~~~ are you talking to me?”, I was surprised so i thought, “hmmm, maybe this bitch is on the rag, whatever”. during school she would pretend i was invisible, but after school was done she’d call me a million times, and come over to my place and act like a lap puppy.

I saw past that bulls~~~ and told her to “See ya”. Another girl I dated was originally from Macau, and was half Portuguese/Chinese, gorgeous goddamn girl that had the body of a f~~~ing goddess. Great sex, plus she could cook, and i mean COOK!. The only down side?, her parents hated me, and for what reason?, “because he’s not rich, and doesn’t come from a wealthy family”. What’s interesting was that, when we were around her parents for either dinner or lunch?, she would be as cold as Canadian winter to Me.

 

You would think I was some dude she picked up off the street, as soon as we went beyond her folks front door. I would try and hold her hand, try and kiss her, nothing, just a stern dead fish looking woman. But as soon as we’d get back in the car driving back home?, she’s pull my pants down start giving me road head, and crawling all over me like a goddamn lemur.

 

This happened more then once while having dinner at her parents house, to finally one night I said “no more”.  no less then a week later, she was dating another guy.

 

So yeah, based on personal experience i would say there is a two face to Asian girls, but show me a girl who isn’t two faced?, I’ve dated all kinds of ethnicity  and seen some shallower examples then ones I’ve pointed out.  not all Asian girls i dated acted that way, there were some good girls who just enjoyed the company and enjoyed being around someone other then dating an Asian guy. most the girls i dated who were Asian I’m still friends with to this day.

if anything the only time i ever saw an Asian guy with a white girl was either in Vancouver  or San Fransisco. I’ve always seen white guys with Asian girls, but never the opposite.  That should be a good topic, where are the Asian men with the white women?….hmmm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I could have been with many white women.  I didn’t have any problems getting women interested once I had a lot of confidence.  I didn’t have the money, the right friends, etc.

 

Here is a poll, although not scientific.  It gives you some idea.  Only about 31% of South Korean was willing to date a foreigner, That is still a minority these days.

 

 

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2012/10/18/2012101800458.html

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[RayBandakuParticipant 889]

My Ex wife for 12 year is South Asian Indian(American Born).  She is not different then what you described, she can turn in to an evil monster if she does not get what she want’s.  I was a hell of a marriage.  My friend was also a South Asian, she is even colder then my Ex wife.  Just last week I had to cut my friendship with her because she was too controlling and needy.  When I deleted her from facebook, instagram etc she when crazy, because I am always a nice guy.  She could not handle that I rejected her, she is a model so she thinks world revolves around her.  What happened next was insane.  She called my ex girl friend who she only spoke once a 9 months ago and told her about what I shared.  My ex girl friend texted me and was very upset that I shared some personal matter with my so called friend, I regret sharing it in confidence.  I will never ever trust a female friend ever again.  I was shocked that my so called best friend would call my ex and tell her things that would hurt my ex and me.  I was so heart broken and shocked by what she did just because I wanted end my friendship with her.  I though this stuff only happens in movie.  On top of that my friend called Metro PCS and cancelled my phone service because she new my password, I don’t know how.  I had call metro to restore it.  She also left nasty hurt full message on my phone, facebook and instagram.  I was friends with her for a year and half putting up with her controlling needy nature.  I thought she was a not that bad but I was shocked how evil she turned out.  She went from love to hate in moments notice when I deleted her from facebook and instagram.  I will never ever trust woman again, except my mother.  I am never going to have female close friends, I am staying away completely.  Now that I have amazing MGTOW friends here on this site, I will never need female friend period.

[GSX-R1000Participant 4]

My advice on westernized asian woman, they will take you to the cleaners just as likely as regular westernized women.

[NandoParticipant 18]

Asian chicks here are a VERY rare sighting, 90% of my country’s population of European descent, and we have zero immigration, on the contrary we are the ones jumping ship to the North or the “Old Country”, the constant bane of a 3rd world economy, the cake is too small for everyone.

I found this video thanks to Stardusk a while back, it’s been going around for a in the MGTOW manosphere. It was published by a “German Mgtow” user

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2–TJYuxc]

Seems it’s focused on Chinese women mostly, but I think it can be applied to any (Asian) woman?

Gotta love them Japanese, they are enlightened, pioneering people, almost always ahead of the times, the Herbivore way of living is wrecking havoc over there, men working less, not getting married, paying less taxes, NOT CONSUMING!

Since dudes are not competing for attention, no one is buying them BMWs or Mercedes over there anymore! Luxury “Peac~~~ing – I have money – I’m an awesome catch” economy is taking a massive hit over there.

Women paying for “manwhores” to satisfy their attention, ego and validation needs (women porn), Women REQUIRE social validation, they are biological wired with the need of being wanted, the dread of any woman is stop receiving attention, this transforms them into a non-entity, which is the same as being dead.

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