As nature intended.

[AlokParticipant 16]

Hi men choosing their own path!
I have been wanting to get my life story, from a perspective critical of women and how they have affected my life, out for a while. So here goes.
I do realize i am not a good writer, I almost never write chunks of texts anymore and it was not my strength when i had to.
Also WARNING that a lot of women talk is about to follow but I want to get out what made me choose this lifestyle. TLDR follows at the end.

My violent nature really has been central for me to understand myself.
From an early age I’ve been sort of a violent boy, never a bully but rather someone who used violence as a way to stand up for myself. The typical response from adults have of course been to shame me for this, which I think is right but at the same time forced me to repress a very natural behaviour.
Somehow i still maintained my friends despite responding with violence when they were being assholes.

The problems however began when I one day hit a girl at the age of 10. She had stolen a football from me or some stupid thing like that but i was just not in a good mood that day and punched her in the face.
Of course i felt an extreme guilt from this, hitting a woman was a capital offense in my mind. Next i know the teacher was yelling at me, which i was already used to and didn’t really pay any mind.
I don’t know how it happened but my parents were not contacted.
As i said i’ve felt extremely guilty about this incident and it made me very careful around women.

I had a good friend, Bertil, at about that time who wasn’t really what anyone would call a good person.
When i got over to his house one of the things he liked to do was write to random girls on one of these teen communities at the time and tell them how ugly they were. They would get very emotional and sad and this seemed to be something he enjoyed. I didn’t find it that interesting but I got to play on his ps2 so whatever.

Next incident was when i was a bit older. About 12-13 i think. I started to notice how girls were paying attention to me. I didn’t understand at the time this wasn’t hate for hitting a girl but actually interest, although they were painfully obvious.
One of these girls was the teasing sort, she was half part of my gang of 5 for a while.
Anyway one day i found a picture somebody from an earlier class had drawn, of a beaver saying that someone with that girl’s name was unbelieveably ugly. Bertil convinced me to give it to her. It seems very weird now afterwards how i didn’t compute the effect this would have.
When we got in the next day i was stopped by the teacher and pulled into a different room.
Got some s~~~ about the girl crying and not coming to school. I told him to say i was sorry but that i didn’t draw the picture. This set him in a rage trying to get me to admit i did it. I never did so after about half an hour he took me into the classroom. The class had had to wait for us.
Now he tried to shame me in front of everyone and still going on about me having to admit to drawing the picture. I didn’t so we all had to sit in the classroom even during lunch time. My classmates pleaded for me to just say I did it but as i did it he kept us for 2 hours after class time.
This I think furthered my carefulness around women, being very careful not to offend women at all past this point.

Next part of my life I excelled at most subjects, being the strongest and fastest and among the most intelligent around the school until gymnasium(swedish high-school). Not actually making a real effort with women and didn’t really stand up for myself at all.
At this time i started to challenge family members and wrestling them(something nobody liked).
By the time i was told this i almost stopped interacting with people overall, still maintaining the one friend i’d had since childhood. This because we went on the same bus.

In Gymnasium I started to get some of my energy back, but at the same time i got more and more introverted.
I did try to impress on girls a bit and went for the “Good girls”. But I didn’t really succeed at all because of my introversion and just staying out of trouble. Also I think not cutting my hair and being a gamer didn’t help.

So when i went out of school i sat at home playing computer games for half a year on unemployment allowance from the government.
The next half year i was working at my dads company as an intern for unemployment allowance.
Then i decided to pull myself together and get laid!

So i looked at what i was inherently good at in gymnasium and figured out it was math i did the least amount of work in but still had the top grades in. So i went to college and studied math, joining the same college party group my friend was in.
I did well but generally f~~~ed up drinking too much and shunning myself out of the “party group”.
Next year i did chemistry and started working out in a gym well before that.
Things went well the first week or so but I quickly started to lose interest in studying and went all in for working out and making myself stronger, went on to par the regional record for deadlift unofficially.

I knew then that what would make me the happiest and the best man would be to quit women and just focus on myself for this part of my life, and maybe get a woman later.
I couldn’t just do that though, my entire worldview was shaped around women and pussy was what i thought i needed.

But i did something mostly for myself. I went to New Zealand for a year after a week trip there just before. Found a flight and just took off. I made this decision mostly independent of women but at the same time i knew my chances of meeting girls were better in a backpacker setting.

Eventually i met a girl who i asked out on a date, she said yes of course. This was in a working setting so we were both working and decided on a day off. She ended up f~~~ing somebody else who lived in her room.
I decided dates was a horrible way to get laid and generally started to disrespect women in my mind than i had before.

After completing the work season i went to work in a hostel. Soon got laid with a 25 year old fat chick, I liked her because I thought “wow she seems like an actually nice woman”, also despite the fat she was actually really good looking.
We ended up being together for 4 months in New Zealand while I was working, She was doing nothing all day but I had decided I wasn’t gonna spend much more than necessary on her.
Eventually time came for her to go home and we said goodbye. For some stupid reason i suggested we stay in a long distance relationship which she agreed to. Went to visit her, it was actually a good visit, i didn’t pay much because she was mooching off of her parents and i lived for free.
I started to notice how we didn’t have sex as much as I’d like to and I didn’t like her anymore so i decided, while still in her country to dump her. I didn’t though. When i got home i was working paid for my dad again and was pretty happy with it.

Soon after i got home she cheated on me and dumped me. This wasn’t a big deal to me at all, I’d already started to realize this girl was just going to destroy me slowly(Her sister was living off of her husband and i could see his distress.).

I started to see how much I had spent on my journey to get laid. (about 20000 usd counting the parts i worked.

Nevertheless I felt i had to go away again and “work” in australia because working for my dad was not giving me anything(from the perspective of getting a woman). Thankfully i was intervened and decided not to when i found MGTOW about a month ago.

I found a video from Turd flinging monkey(don’t know which one). I realized his views reflected my own(that of self preservation etc.) but only the viewpoint was different(that of women being of importance to me).

I am not trying to make myself into a victim but share and explain to myself what made me into who i am today.

TLDR: I spent insane amounts of money to get laid, only to realize women are not worth the effort. I have also realized that women are the general theme through my depressions and problems. I bear them no ill will for this but at this moment I can’t see a womans place in my life.

To explain the name the elephant is an animal i really admire. They are big, forceful and intelligent, and fit my self-image quite well.
By going as nature intended I think I’m referring to the practice where elephant males go out on their own, away from the herd to live better than the collective because of them not needing the herd to survive.

If anyone should read through the entire thing I am very grateful you took the time. I do realize it’s a very long text. There is a lot more I’d like to get out but I will have to let it out someplace else because this text is already big enough.

Also thanks to everyone else just coming to say hello.
I’m a 23 year old Swedish man now looking to become something greater than a married man.
Thanks for giving me a glance. And hello. 🙂

[GonzoZiiByrnnarParticipant 195]

I read it. You seem really honest. I was a he-man woman hater @ 23. But you seem smarter than I was, more goal oriented. I was just bitter so I drank a lot. I had/have the violent streak. Admittedly I liked to punch things, get in fights and make fun of people (usually girls). Just gotta channel it, which you seem to be doing quite well.

Rule Of T.A.W.E.D. Trust a woman = Death

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Welcome to mgtow.com. I just read the whole thing. Do you still strength train. I’m a fan of deadlidts myself.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Babartheman, thanks for your introduction! Honest, honest, honest. I too searched for the pussy to be the source of my joy. I wish I was as intelligent as you are at your age. I backpacked Europe when I was in my early twenties with the same notions in mind. Please keep posting. Your experience makes us all stronger! Peace Bros and welcome to MGTOW!

[AlokParticipant 16]

Thanks for the support guys.
Yes i just started strength training again, I’m not doing too bad for having discarded it for 1.5 years. Heart and lung training will get me back on track mainly.

And the violent response to people giving me bulls~~~ is always going to be there I think as long as provocations get out of hand. I think rather than supress it, it’s better to work on reevaluing threats to my person which takes way longer.

[Anonymous 3]

Hello fellow MGTOW friend,
Well, a bitch-slapping some assholes in childhood is okay, I did it too. In adulthood we use different tools for giving some strong feedback, that we don’t like what he/she is doing. Violence is a normal part of a fed-up human. Learn to handle it and make anger the motivation to be better than those assholes, and achieve your goals.

I learned about women’s nature the hard way, too. I can feel what you say.

It’s great you found this philosophy that young age. So I suggest you to get a fleshlight and find some good porn site to keep your instincts in control. Also suggest to get something that you can cuddle with, like a pet, if possible. (but cute smile of porn stars will also work, and places everyday bitches in different perspective, you wont be vulnerable for them)

[TuneoutParticipant]

Welcome and keep up the training,it will clear your mind and focus your thoughts. I find it lessens my anger too and relaxes me.
Also true,paying for women gets old real fast,seeing them on the internet is free and enough for me now.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

welcome sir!

i’m glad you found the path to freedom
enjoy the forums and the website

Alok wrote:

man now looking to become something greater than a married man.

well said!
i’ve never heard of this phrase before.

cheers–

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Mr_OptionsParticipant 298]

Welcome young MGTOW. You are on your way to bigger and better things.

A man without a woman is like a fish without a hook.

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome !
remember the police are on the women’s side ..
best to steer clear of any chance of getting arrested.
keep posting up !!!

[PenumbraParticipant 41]

This was one of the better intros i have read.
I’m happy to see more MGTOWs emerge from the Nordics. Feminism is strong in Sweden, as well as here across the pond.

Welcome to the new way – A way of your own design

A backpack is light compared to the burden of impressing the ladies!
Greetings from Finland!

Every man dies. Not every man lives.

[SubtilitasParticipant 101]

You are only 23 and have spent 20.000 USD. Man, I’m your age and feel like a poor f~~~ compared to you now, what jobs did you work in? 😀

Anyway, welcome and interesting story!

[AlokParticipant 16]

I think you might have misunderstood me. 20k is for my pointless escapades looking for muff, i count 2 out of my 5 working periods into this, and also going without income first year of college and large parts of new zealand. Would guess it comes up to way over this for 3 years.

Im a car mechanic and i have been working as it before. Decent wage for a pretty easy job. Other than that i’ve been doing backpacker jobs. Wine pruning was by far the best but unfortunately seasonal.

Anyway now the goal is money. Giving stocks a proper try it seems the risk is very overrated unless you’re stupid.

Thanks Finland! Yes a big part from choosing to avoid relationships with women is that Swedish women are just not acceptable at this point. But recently also figuring out that they are not a worthwhile investment.
I will want a kid some day, but hopefully it won’t come to wasting any time sucking up to women.

[AttonParticipant]

Text to speech is one hell of a tool, I was able to get the entire thing. Your story is like a great many on this site just keep focused and life should be good for you. Oh and be-careful in Sweden its the rape capital of Europe.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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