Arrogant, Self Entitled Crazy Ex Tries to Get Back Together With me at 50

[Anonymous 1]

I feel like you should teach your daughter to not be influenced by femisism and all that bulls~~~. Who knows, she’ll become an unicorn.

Welcome, brother.

[mgtowtomParticipant 44]

Thanks for the welcomes.

Daughter graduates in May with her Phd and starts her surgery residency soon after that.

Don’t believe the lie that men are not important when it comes to raising kids. We are MORE important. My ex hardly took care of our baby at all, I did everything. It just kicks in naturally and you know what to do, it’s not complicated. Don’t ever believe that taking care of babies and raising kids is solely for women to do or that they are better at it. Bulls~~~. Men are better at it. Just look at all the true stories of women abusing and neglecting their babies and children.

Had two more old bags trying to flirt with me this week. One of them got my phone number because I’m the treasurer for a club we both belong to. She keeps trying to call and text even though I ignore her. She’s 45 years old. Geeze! Don’t they look in the mirror?

I think all women should get an official You Hit the Wall telegram that they must confirm, sign, and return it to the MGTOW depository.

[Anonymous 3]

Welcome Mgtowtom! Nice intro.

mgtowtom wrote:

Don’t ever believe that taking care of babies and raising kids is solely for women to do or that they are better at it. Bulls~~~. Men are better at it

I agree and second your motion.

mgtowtom wrote:

My ex hardly took care of our baby at all, I did everything.

Dont complain. That was your (and your daughter’s) luck.

I should know. I also have a daughter studying to be a doctor, but she is suicidal and I doubt she will ever finish. Apparently “mother knows best”, enough said…

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

A belated warm welcome, mgtowtom. Your story makes me so angry at that woman, but massive respect for you and all that you’ve accomplished. You can sleep sound at night knowing you’ve raised a good kid.

mgtowtom wrote:

I only go after the 20 something year olds and even then I just bang ’em and dump ’em. I can’t imagine why any man would look twice at the old bags over age 35 for any reason.

Nice one. I’m only in my mid-30s, but when I went red pill a few years ago I also suddenly realised how easy it was to bang 20 year old chicks. You’re right, loads of them have daddy complexes, want to be mistreated, have rape fantasies etc. etc. Have your fun, but also bear in mind the majority are bats~~~ f~~~ing crazy. If you keep going, it’s only a matter of time before one of them calls rape, and it’ll be her word against yours. Who’s the system gonna believe? The party will be over then, mate. So my respectful tip would be to dial down the f~~~fest. You can always film a few of them for future rainy days.

Again, welcome brother.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[Y_Participant 4591]

mgtowtom wrote:

Sorry for the long post. I’m sure you’ve heard this a million times from us old guys. I WISH I knew about MGTOW when I was 20. It would have saved me from 25 years of misery.

Old? Son – I am 20 years your senior and I feel like 16.
You can too – just stick around and watch us put a giant enema up the feminists’ collective arse.

You may also note I am not quite sane. That’s ok – it will happen to you when you get older.

Please don’t cry.

[MonkParticipant 16978]

mgtowtom wrote:

She has since found some new boyfriend and is moving in with him on some sort of ranch that he owns. What an idiot.

Next divorce rape coming up.

If you stay in reasonable good shape and looks you’ll be banging 25 year olds when you’re well into your 50’s. It’s absolutely true.

Ego. It’s your assets they’re looking at, not you.

I only focus on the young ones who want to bang an old man with no strings attached and I have a great time with them. (I have a vasectomy by the way). […] I have plenty of disposable money. I have a modest house, paid off, and passive income at this point in my life. No woman to take it from me anymore.

A vasectomy will be no defence against a rape charge, then it’s goodbye assets.

Statistically, if you keep banging these young whores, IT’S GOING TO HAPPEN.

[MGTOW2LATEParticipant 88]

You are an encouragement!
The skank trying to flirt with you pure comedy. I understand trying to be civil for you daughter’s sake but …?

Yes the courts will screw over guys. I once represented an old dude who lost capacity but had arranged for his nephew to care for him. His gold-digging niece had a woman attorney, we had a woman judge and investigator. All the women agreed that the nephew what doing what the old dude wanted, but – men don’t know what how to be caretakers and men don’t know what is best for them. That was argued in open court and the woman judge agreed. Bitches!

I am a year younger than you and am also hit by these old skanks trying to flirt. Other old women are encouraging me to “get back out there.” They have no idea how truly disgusting I find them. I am looking at them thinking “Do you really think I am interested in your saggy t~~~, flabby butt and overused holes?” You give me hope. I don’t know about the risk/reward or younger women but it is great to know the option is available. But for now all my lust is directed towards getting an Indian Chieftain. I would rather spend money on a great bike I can ride than a bitch I can’t.
I am getting together for beer with a buddy today – I will lift one in your honor.

"Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, I would spare you that." 1 Cor 7:28

[Mr LogicParticipant 625]

Great post. This makes me feel very confident that it’s not over for me at age 43. 7 years of focusing on myself should lift me above my current situation. Sex with mid 20 chicks and zero attachments is inevitable. Praise God.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

MGTOW2LATE wrote:

But for now all my lust is directed towards getting an Indian Chieftain. I would rather spend money on a great bike I can ride than a bitch I can’t.

This is what I’m talking about.

I could give you a hundred reasons straight up for why a bike is better than a woman:

You can ride your bike whenever you like.

A bike doesn’t mind if you go ride another bike.

A bike never has a headache.

You can turn a bike off and it shuts the f~~~ up.

If you take care of a bike then it looks great for years.

You won’t get a disease from riding your bike.

A bike doesn’t know what a credit card is.

A bike doesn’t bitch about you with other bikes behind your back.

I could continue but you get the idea…

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[Y_Participant 4591]

Mr Logic wrote:

Great post. This makes me feel very confident that it’s not over for me at age 43. 7 years of focusing on myself should lift me above my current situation. Sex with mid 20 chicks and zero attachments is inevitable. Praise God.

43? Son you ain’t seen nothin. You get BETTER with age. Trust me.

Another 30 years of FUN at least – doing what you want to do – no hassles – no one telling you what you should do – not feeling guilty as s~~~ because you said her s~~~ stank.

While the skanks are running after stupidos you are living life to the fullest.

How can that be bad?

PS : wait for the sex dolls – coming to a store near you.

Travel the world on a shoestring – its fun!!

Go boating

Go wine tasting

Or do this

F~~~ what are you waiting for?????

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Good thread here. Glad you’re enjoying your freedom.

While I think you’re entitled to your freedom, especially after the kind of torture and child support crap you endured for 20 years; I would encourage you to stop banging 25 year olds.

I know, it’s your life, go ahead, have fun. I’m half your age but I still think its a bad idea and I don’t do it.

Reason 1: You’re not safe from their bulls~~~, emotional manipulation or risks even with a vasectomy. They can still make your life hell, on par with what you’ve already dealt with. Is it really worth it?

Reason 2: Pump n’ Dump is effectively PUA behavior. Depending on who you’re talking to around here, you’ll get pushback for that crap. No one is saying you need to swear an oath to not have sex. By all means, go get some ass.

The reason I harp on about it, is because this is the exact behavior that on whole, keeps male SMP at an all time low, and artificially increases women’s sense of worth while actually making them far worse off. The statistics show it too, that once that 25 year old girl has banged 10 guys, she’ll never be a faithful wife and will likely get a divorce right off the bat if ever married.

There is a bigger picture.

Anyway, I sympathize with your story. Imagine, if your ex had never been so unfaithful and divorced you. You’d still be married to her! A loyal marriage well into your sixties. In a way, her treachery all those years ago granted you this life you enjoy so much now. Yeah, you paid a lot of money and annoyance for it, but you were given something better (not just because you banged a bunch of women) but you now have freedom and time to pursue things that you alone care about, unburdened by marriage. But you use that freedom & time to further spoil the dating pool, the same pool that trained your ex-wife to be a useless whore. In this way, the misery cast on men is recycled onto other men.

When you get tired of the same old pump n dump routine, Id say find something better to do (There are infinitely more fulfilling things to do). I say this with the utmost respect of course. Again, maybe I’m young and naïve, uselessly altruistic at 32 years old to be saying this. I just stay away from them all.

Anyway, each man goes his own way.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Monk wrote:

A vasectomy will be no defence against a rape charge, then it’s goodbye assets.
Statistically, if you keep banging these young whores, IT’S GOING TO HAPPEN.

Exactly what I was thinking. They must think we’re such buzz kills Monk. That we disapprove of all the sex they have.

LOL. I not only think it’s risky and dull, but it’s flat out unethical. I say go ahead and get your jollies off a few times. But some of them keep going. They make lives out of banging 100’s of young women, ruining the chances of those women ever being useful.

And I can already hear the defensive shrugs, “If I didn’t do it, another man would. They want the c~~~ and they’re gonna get it either way.” This is the morally ambiguous cloud that really brought us to the bottom. Traditionalism was bad enough but then the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s happened — all with this going on.

For me, Going Your Own Way always meant one thing for sure before it manifests and forks differently for a thousand different men. Primarily it meant that we went AWAY from WOMEN and all their bulls~~~.

Banging an endless line of 25 year olds is PUA bulls~~~, not mgtow.
JUST MY OPINION, NO ANGER MEANT

[mgtowtomParticipant 44]

So, I’m not supposed to bang 20 year olds because it might taint the available pool of available women for blue pill guys to marry? Are you kidding? No thanks, my friend, I’ll keep pumping and dumping them.

I know enough to take precautions.

I’m not spending all my time playing PUA, I don’t chase the chicks at all. I don’t want to give too much away but I work in the performing arts field and the chicks come to me, I don’t have to go around chasing them. That would be a waste of my time, I have enough coming to me. I’m not going to turn them down and I’m going to use my knowledge of female nature to bang them. When I’m on tour, I bang a new one every night.

And it does matter when you’re older if you stay in shape. I realize the women see me for my resources, obviously. Put if you’re a fat slob with a pot belly, your choice of 20 year olds gets smaller.

On a personal note, I also had abusive parents and a bad childhood. I’ve been through a lot of abuse and then on top of that, I endured getting screwed over by over a dozen women by the time I was 40. It’s so liberating to be in my 50’s and red pill and doing what I want to do and banging the chicks on the side. I have 40 years of life left in me at least and I’m in total control and finally fulfilling what I should have been doing all along had I not been abused and then brainwashed into being a financial and resource slave to women and the government. F~~~ them both. From now on, I’m being selfish and I suggest you other guys do the same.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Super interesting thread. Forgive me for replying at some length, but the dispute here is something which I’ve been thinking about a lot recently, and which I think goes to a kind of tension in MGTOW, as well as a tension I find in myself.

I have a lot of sympathy for mgtowtom. F~~~ it, you’ve been through enough. Why shouldn’t you make the most of where you are now? But I also understand GravelPit’s point: perhaps pumping and dumping does just continue a vicious cycle.

I want to think more about these two points of view, because I do think they fit in with two distinctive MGTOW perspectives, and I’m going to borrow some terminology from Dungeons and Dragons and distinguish between two types of MGTOW: “lawful MGTOW” and “chaotic MGTOW”.

in D&D, “lawful” characters are ones who believe that “everything should follow an order, and that obeying rules is the natural way of life”, whereas chaotic characters believe “that life is random, and that chance and luck rule the world”.

I would say GravelPit expresses what I see as more the “lawful MGTOW” worldview, which I’ve seen expressed in many different ways in these forums and which I’d broadly say is that:

• Although going our own way, we still have wider social responsibilities;
• Certain traditional manly characteristics like “taking responsibility”, “doing the right thing” etc. are good qualities and to be preserved;
• Celibacy is preferable to casual sexual relations for practical reasons (risk of STDs, risk of rape/assault accusations etc.) but also perhaps moral reasons (it perpetuates the vicious cycle of women being whores).

Conversely, I think a lot of people on here might subscribe more to a “chaotic MGTOW” worldview, including mgtowtom, which is broadly that:

• Society is f~~~ed. We’re on our own and should make the best of what we have, possibly by prepping;
• Many traditional manly characteristics like “taking responsibility” are just forms of white knighting. It’s not our job to be repairmen and fix society; that kind of thinking is what got men into trouble in the first place;
• There’s nothing wrong with pumping and dumping per se, if that’s what you want. It’s a calculated risk and some men are happy to take that risk, just like they’re happy to invest in the stock market or ride motorbike, but they’re free to take that risk and they’ll take certain precautions.

I’m not saying these are mutually exclusive viewpoints, and we probably all have a bit of both in us; personally, I tend very strongly towards ghosting society, prepping, and rejecting the idea of “taking responsibility”, which is more “chaotic MGTOW”, but I’m not interested in pumping and dumping.

From a “chaotic MGTOW” point of view, “lawful MGTOW” is potentially tradcon and moralising. From a “lawful MGTOW” point of view, “chaotic MGTOW” can be irresponsible and PUA-like.

I think both perspectives are perfectly valid forms of MGTOW and I have sympathy with both GravelPit and mgtowtom here. I don’t think any of us are going to fix the situation by abstaining from sex, but then again we probably aren’t helping either by sleeping around.

mgtowtom, I’d say if you’re aware of the risks and take precautions then that’s of course your prerogative, brother. For me, even if I had a vasectomy and used a condom, the risk of a false rape accusation is enough to put me off sex, never mind the risk of STDs, but I’m 36 and horny as f~~~ so believe me I think about it a lot. But my own way is not your own way! We all have to decide for ourselves.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

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