Aren't they bad for us?

[VeniversumParticipant 492]

Aren’t games somewhat detrimental to the development of people now? People spending hours and hours developing their “characters” instead of developing themselves? I fell into this trap with World of Warcraft and Dungeons & Dragons online. Shouldn’t we encourage people to avoid video games and instead of developing their imaginary avatars, to instead develop themselves? I don’t have a child, but if I had a son, that’s definitely what I would want for him.

[HitmanParticipant]

yeah they’re BAD ..you want GOOD ? …alot of s~~~ is bad for you ..choose the devil you know or the one you don’t ..hugging trees is good for you …wanna make love to an oak tree to feel good ? ….just F~~~IN with you man ! ….truth is ..those games are a double edged sword …good for tech skills ,.. bad for inter-personal skills …balance ..

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I think WoW is on the far end of the spectrum. Remember kids, everything in moderation. If it’s what you wanna do, go for it.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

In a sense, I see video games as a good escape from the real world that I can’t stand so much. I’m not obsessively into games to the point that they run my life (THAT I can agree might be a little damaging to someone instead of improving themselves), but they ARE a good pastime that keep me away from the negative, anti-male society that exists today.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Veniversum wrote:

Aren’t games somewhat detrimental to the development of people now? People spending hours and hours developing their “characters” instead of developing themselves? I fell into this trap with World of Warcraft and Dungeons & Dragons online. Shouldn’t we encourage people to avoid video games and instead of developing their imaginary avatars, to instead develop themselves? I don’t have a child, but if I had a son, that’s definitely what I would want for him.

Actually, I disagree. MMO do have some redeeming qualities. Raiding teaching teamwork and social structure. And a healthy MMO auction house can teach a person about basic economics. Gather professions teaches a person about managing and gather resource, while also learning how to use a map.

For the record I have played several MMOs, raided a number of them, and my favor MMO/expansion pack is WoW Burning Crusade. Outland just rocked. When i played Hellfire Pinisula zone for the first time, I felt like I was on another planet, like the red surface of Mars.

And my favorite raid is the haunted house style Karazhan of the Burning Crusade expansion pack.

Just try to avoid purchase anything from the in game store with real money. That is how they get you. Subscriptions are right. Given that is a good bang for the buck, but not in game items.

[Anonymous 24]

I have been playing games for years… I would say playing anything that you can socialize with the people that you are actually playing with are not that bad. Now sitting locked up in a bunker with your console games all day long with no social circle can be bad for sure…

I am older, grew up with D&D in the late 70’s/early 80’s. I was introduced to World of Warcraft years ago by a younger friend of mine and I played it for a few years. Good times… This kid actually met and married a Canadian girl via Warcraft.. So much for video games being labeled as an anti-social activity…

[Anonymous 3]

Society always complains about all male activities, insisting they are “bad” and must be insulted.

Meanwhile women are on facebook, twitter, online shopping, follow American Idol, take selfies, use instragram etc. and somehow, all of that is mature and very good for people.

I think that’s probably my biggest problem with society and women. Every single male activity is mocked and attacked and we’re all supposed to follow the female imperative. Games, especially modern games, are an outlet for males and generally had given a lot of freedom.

But females have invaded gaming and most of it is filled with SJW and liberal rhetoric, so even that isn’t so fun anymore. But now they don’t actually insult it, at least when they’re playing.

Do what you want to do, do it in moderation, and especially if it doesn’t impact anybody else, it’s really nobody’s business!

[VeniversumParticipant 492]

Well, obviously gaming only impacts the player. I just regret having spent so much time playing those games when I could have been developing skills that would have led me to prosperity by now, which would have enabled me to be generous to people I care about now. I’m not saying video games should be abolished, I’m just saying I think it’s chocolate covered poison.. an unnecessary expenditure of the most important currency that we have a limited available supply of: Time. Perhaps if there were games that actually helped us develop real life skills, it would be different. I think some games like that are being developed. One that I have seen recently is the game Z=type, which is a cool space shooter game where you hone your typing skills. So far, I’m up to 65wpm at 95%, but I started at like 45wpm or so. I’m currently developing a video game, but it’s not one that will develop the player, because I’m only in learning stages and I’m not sure how to do that yet. I think games like that would be very valuable in the future. After all, we do have a limited supply of time. Again, for a person that I love, I would definitely rather they either didn’t play, or played games that actually developed them. At least with sports you can say they are developing physical fitness. People who enjoy gaming are likely to justify it by whatever means necessary, but I think we have to take a hard, objective look at ourselves. All of the accomplishments I achieved in the video games I played have done nothing for me. As a matter of fact, neither has the supposed social network of it. Perhaps some people have had more fortune in that department. If I could take it all back, I would. I would have spent my time doing something more productive and fulfilling that could have led to prosperity.

[VeniversumParticipant 492]

http://phoboslab.org/ztype/

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

My opinion is that video games are a waste of time. However everyone has a vice and in moderation who cares. Personally I sold my video game system when I sold my TV, about 6 months ago. At this point I’m focused on working so I needed to kill distractions. Later as I enter my 30’s and have more free time I will probably get back into it. I figure once virtual reality gaming starts…

When I was in my teens and early 20’s I would read a lot of fiction novels and play a lot of video games. I realized this was unproductive and basically an escape from reality. After some heavy experimenting with LSD and golden teacher mushrooms, I realized that life is essentially just a dream. If we do not like our current reality, we can dream up a new one and through hard work and positive energy, we can make it a reality.

From there on I started meditating regularly and I found it helps immensely. Master your own mind and forget about everyone else. The Kingdom of Heaven is within. I focus on my own thoughts and I actively attempt to observe the observer, if that makes any sense. Our thoughts create our reality. Master your thoughts and the world will become your video game.

It’s never to late to start. Improve your real life avatar. Teach yourself how to program so you can cast real life spells. F~~~ some skanks so you can improve your persuasion skill points. And above all else, take the time to think things through properly. It will save you from wasting any more time. Think first, Prioritize, and then get to work. You will find your way.

Not my property... Not my problem

[CatsPawParticipant 423]

Gaming is as bad as everything else:

Music can be bad, movies can be bad and real life can be bad.

Gaming allows for different views on many things, and that can be helpful.
Personally I learned a lot from gaming, but I learned more from books (however, my love of books came at late age, while gaming was there sooner teaching me 2 languages and the concept of logic, cause and effect, value of hard work and tolerance.

However, as far as I understand this is not due to the games but my approach to them.

I would have never learned English if I did not care for the story in the games I played.
I would have not learned tolerance if I didn’t care if other players liked me or not.
I would have not learned the value of hard work if I did not want to beat my friends in starcraft by being the better player.

So…. are games good or bad? Same as everything else, depends what you do with it.
I for CERTAIN think that games are better than social groups nowdays (unless you hag out with the library club), because what teenagers do now out there is far worse than gaming.

People say that video games influence you, but thats BS. That is why people like different games, because they already know what they want. People have MUCH more social pressure to influence someone than games.
A game will not stop to play because you dont like it.

I will give you a clear example:
First time I played fallout 3 I was disgusted by the explicit violence (you see the damn organs in critical hits, things like arteries and muscles..).
Now, If I play the game that image no longer bothers me that much, but its still something I dont like. I have not become a lover of nasty images.

On the flip side, I always liked good realistic romance drama so I loved in Dragon Age Origins that you could flirt with multiple people and get some characters p~~~ed off at you (I never thought the dev team introduced something like that, so I really laughed hard when I got caught), yet I would never do that in real Life because I saw (at that time) relations~~~s as something too personal to share with more than one person.

Games dont change your behavior, it only shows you other possibilities. And so does everything else as mentioned before.

[narwhalParticipant]

I find I prefer the games more oriented towards kids. For example, I’d rather play plants vs zombies then play call of duty. I do think there can be too much for sure, but it is an escape, can help develop problem solving skills, strategy, team work, hand eye coordination, etc. It can also be good family time. I’ll often play with my kids. We’ll play skylanders, lego games, rock band, etc. It’s good times with my daughter singing, my son on guitar, and I’m on drums. My son actually dramatically improved in playing the saxophone in the school band after we got rock band, band instructor even said that it was a big help. I don’t like minecraft myself, but my kids do. If legos are good for kids, how is minecraft not good?

I also think it should be compared to other pastimes. Is it better or worse then watching tv, reading a book? In no way would I say that video games can replacing throwing a ball outside, going for a bike ride, etc. It’s about moderation.

Ok. Then do it.

[MaxParticipant 887]

Veniversum wrote:

Aren’t games somewhat detrimental to the development of people now? People spending hours and hours developing their “characters” instead of developing themselves? I fell into this trap with World of Warcraft and Dungeons & Dragons online. Shouldn’t we encourage people to avoid video games and instead of developing their imaginary avatars, to instead develop themselves? I don’t have a child, but if I had a son, that’s definitely what I would want for him.

Anything is bad if not used in moderation! As long people play their games as hobby it’s harmless. Also is scientifically proven that strategies games increase the efficiency of the brain and FPS games improve vision by increasing the brain’s ability to pay attention to several events at the same time.

I became a MGTOW because this was the only logical solution for a man survive in a world replete of gynocentrism and biased against men!

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