Are you ready to man up? (article)

[The Skank SpankerParticipant 1372]

This semi-PUA / MGTOW guy has a nice view on how to “man-up” (http://www.rooshv.com/im-ready-to-man-up). I know many MGTOW despise PUA’s, but there is much truth in this story.

The article:

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately. I’m still here in Poland, pretending to be Peter Pan, having purely sexual relationships in a life void of responsibility where no one counts on me and no one expects anything of me. There is no reason to wake up before noon. I spend my days writing, reading, drinking, and chasing pussy. I have so much free time that I decided to learn Polish, one of the hardest languages in the world, just for the hell of it. I feel that there should be something more to life, even if it means taking on what may initially seem like a burden.

I’m convinced that the solution is to grow up and do what society expects of me, to be a man as defined by my middle-class peers.

I will man up and fly to Washington DC. I will fix my resume, make up some amazing bulls~~~ for the four-year gap in professional employment, and become a microbiologist again. Hopefully I won’t have a mean boss, and hopefully the HR gals like me enough so I don’t get the axe in the first round of corporate restructuring.

Once stably employed, I will man up by looking for a modest condominium in the suburbs, taking on a mortgage that is not too crushing. The mortgage will give me a respectability that my self-published f~~~ guides never could. Hopefully the value of my condo doesn’t decline, the condo association nazis don’t complain about my music, and no major repairs will be needed that force me to eat ramen for an extended period of time.

To get around in the suburbs, I will man up by purchasing an environmentally friendly automobile, preferably a Toyota Prius. I will finance it. I will have to budget carefully since gas, insurance, and maintenance adds up. Hopefully I don’t get into a catastrophic accident.

I will man up and enroll in a part-time graduate program by borrowing the tuition (I can get my dad to co-sign the loan since he likes it when I go to school). If I really move my ass, I can have a fresh degree in four years, which will really impress my boss and set me up for a 4.5% annual raise instead of the usual 3%. My debt load should now keep me quite busy and anxious for the next 30 years.

I will man up and find a wife on eHarmony. She’ll be my age, a handsome woman tired of being pumped and dumped, with a masculine sensibility that South American and Eastern European women don’t have. She will drastically shorten her hair six months after the wedding, and in spite of my disapproval, she will gain one pound a month until finally exploding like a whale for our first of two kids. She’ll never make the effort to lose the pregnancy weight, no matter how many subtle gym membership gifts I get her for Valentines Day, Mothers Day, her birthday, and Christmas. She will lose interest in having sex with me. The most humiliating moment of my life will be when she tells me to pump her hand while she reads a woman’s magazine. I will feel unattractive and unloved.

Once the kids are in middle school, my wife will initiate divorce proceedings because “the feeling” is no longer there. The feeling was no longer there for me either, but I was willing to make it work for our children. Nonetheless, I will man up and let her take the property, the cars, and the kids. I will pay her steep child support payments that leave me on the edge of poverty. My kids will be brainwashed against me, and hate me for the rest of their lives. I’ll hate them too, but if I stop paying child support I will be sent to prison. With little fatherly influence in their lives, my son will become a little bitch and my daughter a slut who loses her virginity at the age of 14.

I will not give up on life. I will work even harder and make wise investments until my kids are 18 and the burden of child support payments are lifted. Once eligible for social security at the age of 67, I will take my modest nest egg to a modern country with a cheap standard of living, maybe Poland. Once there, no one will count on me and no one will expect anything of me. There will no reason to wake up before noon. I’ll spend my days writing, reading, drinking, and purchasing pussy. I will have so much free time that I’ll decide to learn Polish, one of the hardest languages in the world, just for the hell of it. Yes, I’m ready to man up.

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Some other decent articles worth a read:

http://www.rooshv.com/the-true-nature-of-women
http://www.rooshv.com/the-end-game-of-feminism
http://www.rooshv.com/the-number-one-corrupter-of-women
http://www.rooshv.com/traditional-gender-roles-create-feminine-women
http://www.rooshv.com/the-decline-of-american-women
http://www.rooshv.com/western-culture-poisons-women
http://www.rooshv.com/42-things-wrong-with-american-women
http://www.rooshv.com/do-not-have-sex-with-feminists
http://www.rooshv.com/15-reasons-why-toronto-is-the-worst-city-in-north-america-for-men

[RoyDalParticipant]

He has good points, and not so good points, in his article. I like it where I am over Poland, but whatever suits him is OK w/ me.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[OldBillParticipant]

Nice bit of sarcasm from Roosh.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

If Shah Daryush the imperious twit says “1+1=2”, then I would not disagree. If he spoke the truth in that instance, then I will not say otherwise.

Given the vast majority of his other work and his hostile stance toward MGTOW, I would encourage anyone reading his work to exercise due caution.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Reading that article was like some inception s~~~. Love the ending.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

Ah so the fellow is back pedalling a bit, isn’t he?

After numerous attempts of co-opting and shaming MGTOW, and doing some half plantation oddities, I will give him only the same attention I give a semi rapid feminist, who once a blue moon sees reason, indifference.

Next article will probably be some half ass vague bulls~~~ attempt at shaming men, who don’t care about his pussy begging religion, as always.

[VeniversumParticipant 492]

To go through all that, to give up everything and then realize the journey was all for nothing because you were already where you wanted to be to begin with. Wisdom. I think I will pass on “manning up”.

[WolfParticipant 890]

There is truth to his story. I like how it comes around full circle and he ends up where he started. Moral of the story: don’t bother with manning up.

[OldBillParticipant]

Burgundy wrote:

Ah so the fellow is back pedalling a bit, isn’t he?

Not quite.

Let me begin by saying I’m not a fan of most of Roosh’s work or most of the work of any of the other PUA types. I greatly admire Roosh for his courage however. While he was naive enough to walk into the Dr. OZ ambush, he handled himself well. His actions in Montreal and Toronto, where he faced a very real possibility of both physical attack and legal harassment, are admirable in my opinion.

I don’t know the entire history between Roosh and those in the MGTOW movement, nor do I want to, nor do I care. I do know, as I explained in the Kia commercial thread, that, if you’re selling something, you must constantly talk about and protect your brand. Roosh sells PUA materials. It’s how he feeds himself. He’s going to react both proactively and forcefully when comments are made about his brand and I will not condemn him for doing that.

All that being said, my problem with the PUA movement is two fold. First, they have what I see as a misdirected rationale for self improvement. They primarily pursue self improvement as a way to f~~~ more and better women. Self improvement can admittedly help you do just that, but pussy shouldn’t be your goal. You are your own goal. If more pussy is a side effect of your self improvement journey, more power to you. However, if you’re making decisions regarding self improvement based solely on whether or not you’ll get more pussy, you’ve lost sight of your real goal: Yourself.

Second, many PUAs mistake celibate MGTOWs for the entire MGTOW movement and react accordingly. In this Fallacy of Composition, they’re just as mistaken as feminists, manginas, or, for that matter, the rest of society. Celibacy is just one part of the MGTOW spectrum and not even a large part. Celibacy doesn’t equate a being MGHOW, there are plenty of blue pill incels out there who aren’t anyway near being a MGTOW.

In my thinking, the only actual difference between PUA and MGTOW movements is a difference in the rationale for self improvement. PUAs – mostly – engage in self improvement to get more pussy while MGTOWs – mostly – engage in self improvement for it’s own sake and – most important of all – there are PUAs and MGTOWs who engage in self improvement for both reasons.

We’re arguing over a matter of emphasis, so what’s next? Arguing over which end of an egg to open first? PUAs and MGTOWs have so much in common that it’s sad to watch them snipe at each other over relative trifles. That’s something women do. which is why that’s something we shouldn’t do.

Next article will probably be some half ass vague bulls~~~ attempt at shaming men, who don’t care about his pussy begging religion, as always.

You’ll notice that, as he’s grown older, Roosh has dialed back his talk of “notch counts” and the like. He’s writing more about male self improvement these days because, as the years roll on, he’s finding that chasing pussy isn’t as fun as it used to be.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6419]

If I just remain in my hammock I’ll end up being money ahead.

[BeeParticipant 700]

Sounds like a pua version of the Mexican fisherman. I’m a guy living a blue pill life now. My 41 year old self mourns the loss of tranquility, independence, being able to live cheaply, and simplicity on a daily basis. But if roosh is living in eastern Europe for the sole purpose of chasing tail, then attention to pussy is consuming too much time, energy and resources at the prime of his life.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Just my opinion- Life doesn’t have to be like that. You can be a winner. You can find freedom in an unfree world.

[VeniversumParticipant 492]

*You are your own goal” Well said Bill, well said.

[Anonymous 2]

That blogger also wrote another superb article, which you can find here –

http://www.returnofkings.com/73134/how-patriarchy-will-return

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Wherever it came from, that was a good read.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

. The mortgage will give me a respectability that my self-published f~~~ guides never could

Failed, taking on a loan for 30 years when you’re in 30’s is plain stupid. More than half of the payments on a mortgage is interest. That is purely stupid. Let’s not forget taxes on the property and maintanece cost. Even a married man shouldn’t have a mortgage, it’s far cheaper to rent an apartment and let the pro deal with the headaches.

I will man up and find a wife on eHarmony. She’ll be my age, a handsome woman tired of being pumped and dumped, with a masculine sensibility that South American and Eastern European women don’t have. She will drastically shorten her hair six months after the wedding, and in spite of my disapproval, she will gain one pound a month until finally exploding like a whale for our first of two kids. She’ll never make the effort to lose the pregnancy weight, no matter how many subtle gym membership gifts I get her for Valentines Day, Mothers Day, her birthday, and Christmas. She will lose interest in having sex with me.

A woman in her late 30’s is going to have a hard time getting having children. Considering the fact RooshV is 36 and he will marry a woman his age. She likely have miscarriage(s) or a child with birth defects. This is just plain stupid.

Don’t believe here a video with a fertility expert from Canada.

Once eligible for social security at the age of 67, I will take my modest nest egg to a modern country with a cheap standard of living, maybe Poland.

Social security? Is he dreaming. Don’t depend on the government to take of you. Most countries will be broke, if you get any amount of social security it will probably not enough. Look at Canada where people on Social security are going to food banks.

http://www.nugget.ca/2015/12/04/more-seniors-individuals-turning-to-food-banks

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/food-banks-ontario-1.3342191

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[OldBillParticipant]

Crazy Canuck? You do know that Roosh’s piece was satire, right?

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25019]

It may be satire but it’s the path that the women of the west wish all of us men would go down.

I live in a small house, 1000 square feet but on a beautiful lake. It’s economical, more than enough room for me. My brother and his family lived here with 3 kids and it was fine.

But I know that any American woman who see’s this house will feel let down and her next thought would be that if things worked out we could move, and put me into mortgage slavery.

That is why letting an American woman into your life is the cause of such misery for men in this country.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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