Are you also the only mgtow among your friends

[freedomParticipant 5129]

well I gotta tell you, sometimes early 30’s suck because all your buddies are busy with babies and bitchy wives and unless there is another Mgtow pal with you, you are pretty much on your own there.

I fear that I will give up on the Mgtow way of life and be some woman’s simp like my friends, though I am a bit cold toward women and don’t have much interest in them, unless it’s sexual only.

[Chase PesosParticipant 2136]

Yup, all blue pills not truly happy but stay in relationships, get caught with kids and then get trapped with more.

They try to convince me that I should follow suit. I find it offensive bc they’ve never heard me complain about anything and being extremely happy. I guess they can’t stand us going our own way and thriving.

Chase a check, never chase a chick...

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

I have friends on both sides of the spectrum. Not surprisingly, I find the ones who are married to be more unhappy.

I tend to drop red pill knowledge where I can. I have one friend who is currently lurking these forums, and who watches MGTOW videos all the time.

If I can get one man off the plantation, that is one man who is saved from divorce rape and the extortion of all his resources.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[RoyDalParticipant]

I’m not the only, but we’re rare birds. Most of the proverbial flock are pure blue pill.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

freedom wrote:

well I gotta tell you, sometimes early 30’s suck because all your buddies are busy with babies and bitchy wives and unless there is another Mgtow pal with you, you are pretty much on your own there.

I am very lucky to have another MGTOW friend, whom I hang out with very regularly. We both have no desire to work like donkeys in an office job, we both are not getting married, we both are not interested in getting laid with women. I am very lucky. We play video games, hang out, camp, explore, relax etc.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

Yes, I don’t see much of them anymore, it’s mutually agreeable.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Chase Pesos wrote:

I find it offensive bc they’ve never heard me complain about anything and being extremely happy

Exactly, why would a “friend” drag you into a pile of s~~~?

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

If I can get one man off the plantation, that is one man who is saved from divorce rape and the extortion of all his resources.

Also suicide.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[freedomParticipant 5129]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

freedom_Roy wrote:

well I gotta tell you, sometimes early 30’s suck because all your buddies are busy with babies and bitchy wives and unless there is another Mgtow pal with you, you are pretty much on your own there.

I am very lucky to have another MGTOW friend, whom I hang out with very regularly. We both have no desire to work like donkeys in an office job, we both are not getting married, we both are not interested in getting laid with women. I am very lucky. We play video games, hang out, camp, explore, relax etc.

I had a really good friend once at work before he met his ex, we used to meet once a week for beer, pizza, and stupid movies and just talked about s~~~.

Then he met his ex and stopped seeing me, I think it’s because she didn’t like me, don’t know why.
The worse thing was that he started to be an ass hole toward me, he even mentioned several times that I make more money than him and I got no idea where was that coming from? he didn’t mind me earning more than him before, suddenly he became extremely douche about it.

[GregB0Participant]

freedom wrote:

got no idea where was that coming from?

Look to his ex for the answer. Unless there is drama and infighting, women are not happy with life. They have to continuously enforce their alpha status among their peers or they will lose it and become just a follower. Power, power power, its all about the power.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5119]

The majority of my divorced middle aged peers are unknowing MGTOWs.

“M”: 60’s and divorced twice. Has realized that all women are crazy, and spends his free time on his own interests. For the last 5 years hires a pair of hookers once a month to blow his load, and then gets back in the tree stand.

“E”: 40’s and never married, but paying support for a kid he sees one day twice a month. Has realized that women are nothing but trouble. Hasn’t sought a woman in 9 years.

“K”: 40’s and divorced. Has realized that women are hypergamous by nature. Hasn’t sought a woman in 7 years.

“D”: 50’s and never married, no kids. Likes his life simple, and knows a woman only causes complications. Hasn’t sought a woman in over 10 years.

NONE of these guys realize they essentially fit the MGTOW profile. I have have no need to directly inform them of MGTOW, because they already live that life, and will only do so to keep them from making the same mistakes again.

There are already hundreds of thousands of sleeping MGTOWs out there, they just don’t know it, we need to find a way to awaken them.

Sovereignty above all else.

[narwhalParticipant]

I really don’t keep up with any other single men at all, much less MGTOW. After my divorce, I used to know quite a few. Every single one of them got married or serious GFs since then.

I will talk about certain specifics as it relates marriage with guys I know, such as retirement. I don’t want to push it to a point where they have to seriously consider divorce, or flat out reject the truth though. I’m not saying these guys are happy, but destroying their world so they can get to a better place isn’t my decision to make, as I see it.

Ok. Then do it.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

freedom wrote:

Then he met his ex and stopped seeing me, I think it’s because she didn’t like me, don’t know why.

She didn’t like you because she didn’t want to lose your old friend as a partner. That’s why so many married men lose contact with their friends.

freedom wrote:

The worse thing was that he started to be an ass hole toward me, he even mentioned several times that I make more money than him and I got no idea where was that coming from?

I think I know where it is coming from. He was very jelly. You see, when this female entered the picture, he wanted to be earning more than you so that he could validate his role as the provider, however this was not the case, thus labelling himself, in his own mind, as inadequate.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

There are already hundreds of thousands of sleeping MGTOWs out there, they just don’t know it, we need to find a way to awaken them.

Good points brother. It is not just awakening them, but also accelerating their path to MGTOW, or perhaps reinforcing their current path in life.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[OldBillParticipant]

Like KTR, I’ve many friends and acquaintances across a wide span of ages who are thinking and acting as MGTOWs without even knowing what MGTOW is.

Those of us who wear the “badge”, accept the “label”, and discuss our “journeys” are but a small minority of the men walking the MGTOW path.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Funny, all my closest friends are single (some have never dated as far as I know), but it’s not something we really ever talk about, so I couldn’t say whether they’re MGTOW or not.

However, any decent American guy, even if he’s blue pill, as long as he has standards, is going to have great difficulty finding anyone worth dating, let alone marrying. So even if they’re not consciously MGTOW, I doubt they’ll get married.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Admiral CrunchParticipant 776]

I have a younger friend at work who is hard core MGTOW, even though he does not know the term. I told him I would laugh my ass off at him if he ever assumes the “kneel before Zod” position in front of a woman. He is probably MGTOW oriented because he saw what happened to his brothers and friends….He is a WISE man, while I am only a smart one

Women do not love men. Women only love what men can provide.

[LupusParticipant 214]

Yeah, most in my group are blue-pill and one might be somewhat open to red pill knowledge but very reluctantly. So I’m just like Morpheus in this regard, send him some clips of for instance bar bar or Briffault’s Law and let him choose to check it out or not. You can’t force red pill knowledge, so it’s his choice.

He still has hope he will find an equal. I think I looked at him with pity when he said that. Hope he didn’t notice 🙂

[PappadrilloParticipant 50]

I totally understand you. Here’s my 2, no, 3 cents:

1- BREAKING UP
How to make money to buy stuff to impress women was basically 99% of my friends’ speeches; no problem with that in a first time (having different interests: why not?) and I also was a little sad when they started getting away from me because of their family projects. I was missing them.
But when babies were born they started to judge me for not being like them, supposing I was weak, lazy, maybe gay, and then they tried to manipulate me. The turning point was when 2 of them had a job interview instead of me, speaking in my name and without my permission!!! Usually it’s illegal but the guy who was hiring was a friend of them. Job was very well payed but it was consisting in making phone calls for 14hours a day in a highly competitive environment where 70% of the labor force were women, about a subject I don’t know: a software for insurance customers. (They also lied about my skills, introducing me as a “software engineer” who I am NOT.)
Even when I was still worshipping women, something I hated with all my heart were her eternal phone calls.
And just a few days before I was been near to death because of another job and my panic problems were at their zenith. They didn’t know about that, and there’s why taking decisions instead of someone else can be a easy way to ruin his life.
I was not even able to go to them and explain the situation, so in panic that I literally ran away leaving only some text messages which said something like “Get out of my life right now. ALL of you.”

2 – SOLITUDE
I was nervous, frustrated, one of the worst moment of my life. But I was understanding that bad feelings were about those people and the mess they did, not about solitude. Solitude had many positive sides, for example people who did NOT try to manipulate my life anymore. I wasn’t “feeling” alone, I was “being” alone which is different. I totally accepted solitude as a way of living without expecting anything else but more solitude.

3 – HAPPY ENDING
A few months later, I was having a beer outside when I recognized a guy I had met the year before at a party. I just said “Hello how are you?”
HE: “I’m living in Hell bro. Someone convinced me to make phone calls for 14hours a day in a horrible place full of women screaming and crying about career. I need to escape NOW. They told me I’m working instead of a lazy guy who retired before the project began, but I think he was a f~~~in’ genius.”
ME: “Here I am. Mr Genius, nice to meet you!”
Became friends IMMEDIATELY. Still laughing about that.
The year after an ex schoolmate of mine came back in town after years travelling, and I asked for a meeting. When he found out I am going my own way he hugged me. “Finally” he said “Someone like me. Let’s celebrate!”
Now I’ve 2 real friends who never judge me and never invade my space; we meet just sometimes but it’s like if we’re allways together. Friendship between MGTOW is the highest feeling I ever experienced.
Meanwhile, I knew the 1st blue pilled guy of chapter 1 has been enslaved by a fat Brazilian chick who totally manages his life. The other one is an alcoholic living at her new girlfriend’s home and involved in a huge struggle between families for the custody of the baby he had with his ex.
I’ve got still many problems, but I have no debts and there are no more enemies around me, only allies.

True story. Moral: we’re still young, and Time can be one of our best allies if we keep going our own way. Hold on.

Men of the Middle Age were not "oppressing" women. They were just SURVIVING.

[Anonymous 3]

If they drop you so easily or become assholes to you, the truth is they were never your friends in the first place. You’re better off without them.

Men today are so weak. Men of the past were pioneers and explorers, they didn’t need to be in constant contact with other men and be validated all day, checking social media two dozen times a day. They just went out and did, and if there were other men with them, that was fine, if not, it did not matter.

Most of the great men of history were solitary. Even when they led armies or nations, still they had few “friends”. Most of their time was spent striving for their goals. The absolute loneliest probably were the great leaders, nobody was on their level.

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