Are we MGTOW if we're thinking about women?

[Anonymous 1]

Hey guys, I’ve been a member for a couple of weeks. I’m gonna do an introductory thread tomorrow, but this question just crossed my mind so I guess it’s going to have to be my first post. I have to say, I’ve felt enormous relief finding this forum. It’s been great to find out that I’m not alone – my peers don’t seem to see the world the way that I do.

Here is my question.

If we’re thinking about why women are a massive f~~~ing pain in the arse most of the time, have we really gone our own way?

I’ve realised that I spend quite a bit of time (mental resource) thinking about how I will turn the next woman down. My intentions are pure: they’re a ball of negative impact on every part of my life, and the reward is momentarily feeling wanted and secure. I know this, but I don’t think I’ve yet got to the point where I “just don’t think about them”. I’m really hoping I can get to the point where I just don’t even notice they are there.

Is that achievable? Have you got to that level, or are we all just trying to bolster each other with red pill reminders? Perhaps more time is the key. What are your experiences of how this develops over time?

(For context, I’ve been strictly no women for 9 months)

[MalfunctionNeedInputParticipant 257]

Wouldn’t you be gay if you weren’t thinking about women? Or just at that age when the temptations of the flesh don’t bug you anymore? I’m still young and have that sex drive and it’s unavoidable, I still think about women. I’m not that high of a level MGTOW to completely phase that out of my life. Some here I think have achieved that state though.

The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. --Einstein

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

There is a part of MGTOW that focuses on understanding the nature of women. Some MGTOW hold it as essential. I personally consider it optional. It is part of the process men who go MGTOW do, is focus on what women are like, as a basis for not dealing with them. I do hold,. eventually you best to move on, and have posted such a number of times. I know some have disagreed. I know with my MGTOW YouTube channel, I almost never discuss women at all. It seems to be an exception however.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

If we didn’t reflexively think about women we would hardly need this site, would we? Every man would be a member by default.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[Anonymous 1]

That’s provided some insight.

[CaliParticipant 753]

MGTOW is a choice of action. You are reprogramming your thinking. After a while of thinking through what you will do and why you will do it, it should start coming naturally.

I find it hilarious when people say things like “Well, for men going their own way, you sure talk about women a lot.”
It’s because we have to resist our basic instincts PLUS everything we have been told by society and that is a lot easier to do when you have a support group of sorts. That is what this website does for a lot of members: it helps us keep an open mind and keeps us from drowning in blue pills.

It is very achievable to stop thinking about women, but it’s REALLY HARD to do when you are young, like me. Many older guys are like “Well, now that my sex drive doesn’t bother me, not having a woman in my life doesn’t bother me”, but when you’re young, you MUST make conscious effort to go your own way.

Remember: You are a man. You have set in your mind to accomplish something, so it is entirely possible to do it. Simply discipline yourself, focus on bettering yourself and helping others (both supporting them and showing them the truth), and eventually, you will find that that rather annoying voice that says “look how hot she is”, or “wouldn’t it be nice to have a girlfriend?” will simply start to fade away.

Until then, you must continually take red pills to resist the blue ones you are being fed. Watch, listen, laugh, but most importantly, observe others in your life and LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES.

Peace, bro.

Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Read the book in my tag line. We have been programed to want women.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

If we’re thinking about why women are a massive f~~~ing pain in the arse most of the time, have we really gone our own way?

It’s a matter of perception, Jayne. Perception and the stages newly minted MGTOWs all go through.

Every new MGTOW goes through that rage phase and their posts reflect it. Those rage/anger/hate posts are usually more fun to read and thus garner more replies. So you’re seeing a selection bias at work. Look at the content of the replies to those rage posts, however. You’ll see something like this:

New MGHOW OP: Women suck!”
Newish MGHOW A: Yeah, they really suck!
Newish MGHOW B: Yeah, they really suck bad!
Oldish MGHOW A: True, but if you’d done this instead….”
Oldish MGHOW B: They suck, but next time try….”
Oldish MGHOW C: Sure, they suck, but if you ignore them…”

I think you’ll see a lot of advice in many responses to our usual rage posts.

I’ve realised that I spend quite a bit of time (mental resource) thinking about how I will turn the next woman down.

When you plan like that, you’re sharpening your MGTOW saw. You’re putting in those mythical 10,000 hours required to become an expert. Putting in that “mental” time will allow you to….

I’m really hoping I can get to the point where I just don’t even notice they are there.

… reach that exact condition.

Is that achievable?

Yes, very much so.

Have you got to that level, or are we all just trying to bolster each other with red pill reminders?

I’ve reached that point. While I notice most things around me thanks to a terminal case of situational awareness, the fact that some of the things I notice are women is of no consequence to me. I also believe red pill reminders are helpful at any time.

Perhaps more time is the key.

More time is the key. You’re practicing and practice makes perfect.

Good luck.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 1]

There. That’s what I mean right there.

[Anonymous 42]

Hey jayne, my only thoughts about women are how shallow they really are, I’ve seen countless men turned to s~~~ by the negative effects from modern women. My nerves cant take the constant fraying that comes from associating with most (almost all) women. It’s not my problem that this society chose to collectively go to hell.
I’m just a traveler through time, I’ve witnessed too much carnage and moral degradation, the mindset of this society is extremely hostile toward men, they have all the bias driven gender laws on the side of women, while sacrificing men.
I’ll stay safely in my time machine until the journey ends…………

[RoyDalParticipant]

Are we MGTOW if we’re thinking about women?

Yes, we are programmed to think about women. It is literally in our DNA. Going My Own Way means to me that I am not a slave to my programming. It means I can use my conscious mind to override my instinctual behavior.

* Red pill = conscious decision making.

* Blue pill = blindly following instinct and social conditioning.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Going your own way is by definition different for every man, with the common principle of maintaining independence and sovereignty over your own life.

I enjoy the company of women, when the urge takes me, (when I say company, I mean sex) but I limit their effect upon my life. With my eyes open, I cannot avoid seeing their inconsistencies, their privilege and hippocracy.

Is the juice worth the squeeze?

Probably not, but like a junkie looking for their next fix, I am still a slave to my biology, so I pay, one way or another we all pay, until we can overcome our biological urges.

I can’t speak for all free men but I think about woman because my biology doesn’t allow me to stop, even if I could overcome my biological desires, there is still an unforgiving gynocentric society all too willing to shove the inequity of hypocrisy and double standards down our throats.

Just the other day I was attending an open for inspection on an apartment, as I was ringing the bell to get into the apartment, I saw all these young girls doing some sort of dance show, through a large glass wall, that you find in modern offices. When I left the apartment I heard some girl tell the femstappo in charge, “that’s the guy that was taking pictures of us”, and the femstapo came to the front door to confront me, I just gave her a look like I’m not going to be f~~~ed with and she just stopped, didn’t say a word, I had no camera, I had property fliers, and if they don’t want to be looked at then, cover the f~~~ up and go somewhere private.

F~~~tard, Femstapo, attention seeking whores that are fully backed by the gynocracy, are hard to ignore, so yeah I think about women, like Keymaster says I’d find it hard to ignore land mines if i was living next to them.

It’s pretty hard to avoid thinking about women, when they are everywhere pulling all sorts of s~~~ on you. It’s also a protective mechanism, being fully Red Pill aware, helps keep your defenses up.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[LowKeyParticipant 702]

Basically,

Are you willing to go on auto pilot like most of the men out there and perish along the way?

Or…

Are you willing to do the extra work and control your thinking?

Its how you deal with thinking about women is the crucial part.

Don't let defeat, defeat you; Let defeat be your greatest teacher.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I have no problem functionally ignoring most women, but I refuse to ignore fine-looking feminine attributes, even if just for the pure visual pleasure. Modern women may have made actual dealings with them distasteful, but they do not own the rights to the concepts of beauty and sexuality, and I refuse to give up that minor pleasure just because they have tainted themselves.
For me it’s not about hating women, just not getting owned by them.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

What a lame question of course mgtow think about women unless you are not attracted to them, i think about women but from a red pill point of view

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Are we human if we think about taking a s~~~???

[Anonymous 11]

I think about them quite a bit.

It takes a lot of time and effort to avoid them or even bother faking caring whenever you can’t.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Wolf redpillman wrote:

What a lame question of course mgtow think about women unless you are not attracted to them, i think about women but from a red pill point of view

There’s your answer.

Here’s mine:

for last 80 yrs (some mgtow say a lot longer) any opportunity a c~~~ will get they will shame us, see now the tables are turn and their a little mad, so what, plus men are grieving from there past experiences they have a lot of build up that they need to get out, order to move on from the laws of human nature you have to express your grievances. Plus the more we talk about them, the more we don’t want them.
Men are building in-difference towards them.

My gut feeling says I smell tuna, but thats just me.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[HitmanParticipant]

T~~~ and legs everywhere.

i must say i do enjoy the show !

bigboy83 wrote:

My gut feeling says I smell tuna, but thats just me.

now that you mention it …how do you open up the window for some fresh air ..? a bit fishy in here …maybe just so new it smells a little …

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Jayne,
Good question. Thanks for asking.
You have heard from some people far wiser than myself.
I think a lot of us think about women,
but perhaps differently.
Consider this analogy- we are in a war. If you were behind enemy lines, you would definitely consider the actions of your enemy in order to evade them.
Part of thinking about women is to be aware of their tactics so you can avoid being taken prisoner. Early on the MGTOW path you learn strategies- how to avoid manipulation for instance.
As men, we still have sex drives. Part of being MGTOW is learning how to control them. A lot of people use porn for instance. Others use professionals. You learn how not to let women control you with their vaginas.
Some MGTOW men still have sex with women, but they have learned to avoid long term relationships and especially marriage. Eventually you will find you really appreciate the peace and tranquility of MGTOW and you just start ignoring women.
Dealing with them is often not worth the price of admission.
Good luck with your journey. Thanks

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