Are people telling you to "lower your standards"?

[Anonymous 13]

I’m beating a dead horse here for most of you:

Remember when people always told you that you should just lower your standards?

Why is it too much to ask that your gf be in good shape if you are in good shape?

I don’t see the hypocrisy there, do you?

If you are not as dumb as US Middle Eastern Intelligence, why should you have to date a girl 10 leagues below your IQ?

I’m not delusional – I know I physically, intellectually, and financially fit most 7.5 to 9.5 women’s standards – even some of the shallowest 8s out there, with one or two exceptions – I don’t put up with their s~~~ or play the “flirt – game” and when I do play it, its obviously sarcastic.  I really never understood “game” or “flirt”…when I’m sarcastic sometimes it works, but I don’t like being so dishonest and I usually slip up.

“Did other men really put up with this brainless, uninteresting, scorching hot bodied babe – just to get into her pants”

“wow, someone needs to this bitch she’s an idiot and then walk away”

These are thoughts I think half of the time when listening to these idiot princesses speak to me – when I’m supposed to act interested.

 

The second thing being – I am generally socially awkward – I have problems – after explosions and bats to my head and what have you…lets just say “I’m not like the rest”

 

I’m glad none of that matters anymore, I have lowered my standards – I have NO standards, I don’t expect a woman to ever meet my old standards, and now I don’t care anymore.

My friends, my parents, they all tell me I’m the shallow one and that I have to lower my standards, back when I was in blue pill world I saw a lot of men who were either retarded, retarded jerks or fat poor slobs with nines…whatever the case being – it isn’t cause “he’s nice to her and he plays the guitar…or they just fell in love…they just click…he’s smart – their minds are in love”  Its usually because he is ghetto rich and she is a shallow bitch, or she is a narcissist who loves to use and abuse him.

 

Anyway, sorry for the rant – keeping my mind off of the courts you know just being an arm for crony capitalism – dismantling the patriarchy – destroying lives.

 

[RoyDalParticipant]

Yes, many’s the time I was asked why I don’t ask some so and so out. Well, it was because I did not like her in the first place.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FermatParticipant 3478]

I don’t have standards for others unless im paying them to do something for me or I am already investing in them. Holding others to a standard to satisfy your life in the context of romantic relationships is futile. Because they are doing the same to you and though they may start out the same now these standards almost always divert and never meet again causing unhappiness.  Thus I don t hold women to standards. I hold myself to standards. I just don’t care enough to fulfill someone else’s agenda when I don’t have to.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Fermat wrote:

I hold myself to standards. I just don’t care enough to fulfill someone else’s agenda when I don’t have to.

That’s damn right.

I stopped having any form of expectations when it comes to women anyway, only ever lead to disappointment, to speak frankly.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I have actually tried that. And it doesn’t work.

Because…

However LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for a woman… you can ALWAYS count on her to fall BELOW it.

Lowering standards does nothing except lower standards.

As a result, i have no “standards for women” anymore. When it comes to everyone – I have set 3 simple standards in my personal life. These simple standards ask virtually NOTHING from others:

1. Respect my time and personal property. You don’t have to respect ME, I will earn that myself over time. But, if you are a flake, late, unreliable, toy with my time, make fun of my clothes or car, mock or belittle, or break something without replacing it, you will be shown the door with no hesitation.

2. I gotta be having fun. I gotta be having a good time. I can be a good friend when times are tough, but if I am not enjoying being around you, I am out.

3. Be direct. I am not interested being a mind reader. You will tell me if something is bothering you or ask for something directly.

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You know who will fail those simple standards every single time?

A woman.

Those standards couldn’t possibly be set any lower, unless you have no self respect. A self-respecting person would consider those 3 basic standards an absolute minimum. Any failure to adhere to those standards is not grounds for a break up or or anything. It’s grounds for kicking that person out of your life entirely. It’s a bare minimum. And it asks for nothing.

“YOU NEED TO LOWER YOUR STANDARDS!!!!”

“You’re not worth it.”

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 12]

Standards are relative. If you are a 60 year old obese man with a fun personality and/or loads of cash and you can score an 18 year old hottie than obviously she is not out of your league even though people will still say “She’s so out of his league”. Look at the program The Big Bang Theory, the joke is that Penny is supposed to be out of Leonard’s league, even though he is a successful scientist who was for most of the show’s run earning more than she was as she was only a waitress.

Now, I work with a guy who is an absolute slob even by male standards and a pig. He will still expect to get the hot chicks even though females in general won’t talk to him. To him I would say he either has to lower his standards or clean himself up.

All of that said, I don’t hear “Lower your standards” being applied to men all that much, it tends to get applied to women who want the “Strong but sensitive, rugged yet suave, successful yet compassionate, good in bed but has’t had too many women/experience, knows how to make a souffle but can kill and skin a deer, always knows what I want even though I don’t tell him and change my mind often” type of man who just doesn’t exist.

 

 

 

[v9wlmn8c1982Participant 83]

Men have lowered their standards when it comes to women, just expecting her to be a sex toy, and that’s what most women have become. Women on the otherhand have standards way to high. When you have one group lower their standards then the other raises their’s, because these women have so many mangina’s and whiteknights following them around. Women now have harem of men, this is just ridiculous.  When men raise their standards then these whores will have a wake up call.

[Anonymous 13]

@WalkingMow;  You made good points.  I especially liked your conclusion.

@Key Master: Great points, 3 standards, just three rules is what it has come to, and yet women still can’t qualify themselves.

@Morlock: You had a similar point to WalkingMow, nice correlation you made with Big Bang Theory, I concur.

Women and mouth pieces for them are asking good men to lower their standards – to give their daughters, friends, and friends daughters a chance.

Sure, if physical attraction didn’t matter – I would be all for some of these overweight sixes type of women – I’m sorry…I just can’t make it work to well for ’em.  Mutual attraction just has to be there.

Keymaster wrote:

However LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for a woman… you can ALWAYS count on her to fall BELOW it.

[Anonymous 13]

I’m not sure yet, I’m 29, but I think I might actually get with some honeys when I am older HOWEVER they must be 20-24 ONLY and scorching hot.  The broads my age blew it…when I’m late thirties I won’t even amuse the dames in their late twenties.   I’ll take these babes out on my boat with a few of my actual friends.  (I don’t have a boat yet, just a Jet Ski) which reminds me…I see older bikers in my city here with younger chicks all of the time – and on dating sites descent looking chicks 9/10 times ask me if I have a bike.  No, I don’t have a f~~~ing bike.  I’m not going to get one just for chicks either.

[GrumpyParticipant]

I am a sarcastic “old” bastard.

Each and every time, some snapperhead says I should “lower my standards”  I just tell them ;

If she can’t or won’t be my equal. I don’t want anything to do with her. Standard can only be so low before they aren’t standards anymore

Would I really want to be with someone who “actually” would want to be with me for longer than a piece of ass?? FFS that would mean she’s more f~~~ed up than me… now that is scary

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

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