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I just watched a video from DoctorRandomercam. For the most part, I tend to like his videos. In this one however, he intimated that MGTOW is for misogynists. That actually bothered me. I have been angry (which I’m trying to get over), but I don’t get into hate. And, as close as I get to mistreatment is withholding interest or attention.
My online dictionary defines a misogynist as a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women. I don’t think that definition reflects current usage as I understand it. Current usage suggests a misogynist is a ‘man’ who hates, or mistreats women. I don’t think the current usage definition applies to me. I neither hate nor mistreat women. I want not to have any feelings concerning them (well, to be honest, perhaps I do have a little bitterness as a consequence of my experience). I try to minimize my interaction with them. Hate and mistreatment require more energy than I am willing to invest. I really don’t want to go through life being angry or hateful. I care more about my own emotional well being than that.
Going back to the dictionary definition; I have a problem with its scope. I don’t see an equivalence between hating and mistreating on one hand with dislikes and mistrusts on the other. I do find myself falling into a category that dislikes and mistrusts women but with reason. The social atmosphere is now such that there is “hard evidence” for there being no benefit for a man to have an intimate relationship with a woman as I interpret that evidence. So, yes, if by dislike, one means “I like not to have interaction with women” and if by mistrust, one means, I don’t trust women, well duh…. yeah!I believe their will always be an initial hatred of women when a man first learns of the MGTOW teachings, but if the man is intelligent, his hatred will quickly evolve into indifference. Why hate women for being what they were born to be? Neither man nor women can do anything about what they were born as, wasting my emotions on hating women just seems nonsensical to me.
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
Women’t aren’t worth my time and energy for hating. Being in a relationship with a woman is not being in love. We as human are chemically addicted to things. It’s no different chemically in the brain as doing drugs.
It’s women who are gaining more power and money. Not jealous of that but it would be difficult dating women because more and more will be expecting men to court them. I remember a guy stating his girlfriend was much more than he was but she expected him to buy expensive gifts, when he was already courting her.
Also feminists have changed wikipedia to their advantage, so it could be possible they have changed dictionary definition.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
Hi everyone… don’t fall for that ‘misogyny” accusation. It’s a bunch of crap.
There is a big difference between “hating women”… and hating what women actually DO.
“Misogyny” is the hatred of women. And unless you are running around intentionally treating women badly, then you are NOT A MISOGYNIST. I am so sick and tired of hearing women squawk about “misogyny” when they have no concept of the word. It’s an infantile deflection.
@ether_ore We already know you’re not a misogynist. Most men are not misogynists – even MGTOW. The opposite of “love” is not “hate”… it’s indifference. We even have this question as part of our fun and interactive “red pill quiz”. In order to “hate” you would have to CARE. The “hate” women are speaking about when they sling accusations of misogyny around – is purely in their own heads. They can’t get at MGTOW anymore. The men have woken up. She is now powerless. The only leverage she has is to call you a “misogynist”.. in a last ditch effort to get you to try and prove you are “not” a misogynist. Give her the validation she seeks
“Hate women are you kidding? There is no better place to deposit sperm.”
… and then watch the expression on her face.
Other responses I enjoy:
• “Women are the original misogynists. Nobody hates women more than other women. A man doesn’t need to be a misogynist. Women already hate themselves and each other. You will never see a man stick his finger down a woman’s throat to get her to lose weight, but countless women do that to THEMSELVES.”
• “Misogynist? Or did you mean “massage therapist”? I could really use a back rub right now. Thanks!”… and then motion that she should rub your shoulders. If she avoids the contact, hold a mirror up and accuse her of hating men! Simple.
• “Hate women?” What are you talking about? It’s silly, unrealistic and impossible to “hate women” as an entire gender just like it’s impossible to love them all. And believe me, I really wish I could. Would you like to experience some love and have sex right now?” Again if she doesn’t go for it, ask her why she hates men so much!
Just be creative and stick it right back in their faces. Kill’em with kindness, and really dial it up.
…and you’ll quickly find it’s they who are doing the hating.(Misandry)
Women who use the word “misogyny” in everyday conversations are so hateful today, they will pretend “you hate women” just to deflect attention away from their own hatred and polluted mentalities. How is it even possible to NOT to distrust women? Who told them we should TRUST them? From dying their hair, to lying about their age, lying about their weight, buying fake body parts, fake nails, fake eyelashes, make-up to cover up their faces, heels to make them look taller than they really are… they work SO HARD to mirespresent themselves every single day of their existence — and they even congratulate themselves in the mirror when they do a great job of it! How is it possible to trust a creature like that?
This is not “hatred”, this is plain and simple logic.
I don’t touch plants that could be poisonous either.Like women, Misogyny needs to be put in it’s proper place. Women should be thanking the men they pretend are “misogynists”, because if a woman were right every time she tried to identify one… western bitches would be in a world of s~~~ today. The accusation of “misogyny” is so simple to generate, all you need to do is not tell her what she wants to hear. Even when a woman is totally ignored, she will behave you like treated her badly. The “misogyny” is all in their own heads.
There is a big difference between “hating women”… and hating what women actually DO. When you express displeasure about what a woman actually does and point it out to her, it’s no longer your problem. It’s hers.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.<cite>@vilenord said:</cite>
I believe their will always be an initial hatred of women when a man first learns of the MGTOW teachings, but if the man is intelligent, his hatred will quickly evolve into indifference. Why hate women for being what they were born to be? Neither man nor women can do anything about what they were born as, wasting my emotions on hating women just seems nonsensical to me.I do appreciate your point of view and in essence, I agree, but, for me there is a slight contradiction in what you said. Specifically: “Neither man nor women can do anything about what they were born as… “; and… “…Hatred will quickly evolve into indifference.” I don’t see going from hatred to indifference as something that “evolves” if by that you meant something that occurs without conscious thought and follow through of effort. Going from hatred to indifference (for me) takes active effort. A man can affect change. Overcoming bad habits is necessarily the result of conscious effort and replacing bad actions with beneficial ones, thus creating a new habit. The word “repentance” is not owned by religionists. Men are capable of repenting outside of a religious context and doing something about the way they were born. For example: men are born with a sex drive. Some men develop this thing we were born with into homosexuality, some into addiction to pornography, some into pedophilia and some into “pre-marital relations” (to site a recent posting). There are all kinds of variations on the theme that we as men are born with. But, we, as men, (and for me, to be a man) have to be in control of our bodily urges… not the other way around.
Now, please, I didn’t mean this comment to be confrontational. It was just me wanting to be clear.
—– for what it’s worth —–
The word misogyny is thrown around so much by angry women it has lost any real meaning. The new meaning for Misogyny is aman who disagree’s with a woman.
“Women are the original misogynists. Nobody hates women more than other women. A man doesn’t need to be a misogynist. Women already hate themselves and each other.
That is so true. You know why you hear women say they would rather work or hang out with guys? Because guys are less drama. Sure there may be those guys who are white knights and going to try and date her, but most of the time men don’t start pointless drama towards each other and hate one another for no reason. Remember that Family Guy where Stewie put Peter, Brian, Quagmire, and Joe in that simulation where they had no memory and there was no one around? The guys actually worked together to try and figure out what was going on then when Stewie put Lois, Meg, and Bonni in there they were beating each other up and he was like “they haven’t even been in there 3 minutes, haven’t even bothered to ask each other their names or anything”
Hating women for what they are, is a silly and futile as hating a kangaroo for hopping. I don’t “hate” that she is a gold-digger looking for the biggest wallet that she can find… that’s her nature! In fact, she is one of my favorite kind! She already thinks she’s smarter than me! And thats’ her hubris.
“Hating” women for this is like shaking your fist at the sun for gamma rays. The anger that a man might feel is when a woman like that totally misrepresents herself and pretends she is getting married under the guise of “love”…. and then he finds out AFTER THE FACT that she was no more than a whore who had no respect for him as she screwed his best friend for free.
/audio/3-million-dollar-bitch/
That’s where a guy would be justifiably angry. And only a person with a callous indifference to the humanity of men would NOT have a problem with that. To call him a “misogynist” for what a woman actually does is an infantile deflection in attempt to excuse the actions of the female. NEVER let a woman get away with that. He is not a “misogynist”. SHE is a money-grubbing unfeeling f~~~ed up slag.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@thebard Bingo.
You know why you hear women say they would rather work or hang out with guys? Because guys are less drama.
A woman like that IS a misogynist herself. She can’t stand to be around women and prefers the company of men, herself. She has no business using the word in a sentence hurled at a man. Women hate each other like a deer hates a shotgun. You don’t need to look very far to see it either.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.“Neither man nor women can do anything about what they were born as…”
To elaborate, I wasn’t talking about the mental or spiritual struggle to overcome the animal in our DNA, that is a journey that is *optional, what I was referring to is the fact that the animal exists in the first place and always will exist despite our constant struggles with it. Thus, we cannot do anything about the fact that we are born to act a certain way. We chose to suppress it and walk a higher path, but the lizard brain is always there.
“…Hatred will quickly evolve into indifference.”
Perhaps evolve was the wrong word. I did mention that this new found state of indifference would only be obtained by the intelligent man, and I mentioned this because it does take a certain measure of wisdom and strength to arrive at indifference. Logically, a lot of men can see that there is no reason to hate women, but they lack the strength to cease the hatred. There are also a lot of men who are too stupid to follow the logic, and blindly hate out of emotion.
*unfortunately
Feel free to challenge my posts, I welcome the dialogue. I am old enough and smart enough to know that I don’t know everything. One thing I do know though is that I must remain open to criticism of my statements. If I can’t defend what I said, I must acknowledge this. If I can defend what I said, it strengthens my argument. I hope all who read this feel the same.
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
YOU ARE A MISOGYNIST!!!! YOU HATE WOMEN!!!!
“I don’t know what you’re talking about. I treat women better than they deserve. But I’m working on fixing that. Any tips?”
A speechless woman is a thing of joy.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I know I am a misogynist. But I am always reasonable and fair. I have never made a wrong judgement just because I hate women. An dthere was a time a woman even defended me saying “Anyone can be a misogynist but dkaikster” (she actually said that since dkaikster is what my friends call me). The look on her face was priceless when I told her that I actually was a misogynist.
Fact, I never submitted to women…. in fact I never even submitted to men. If I am wrong at something, I accept it and apologize. If I am not, I stand my ground. When things take a turn for the worse, I stop standing my ground and begin to show indifference and things turn out fine. But I don’t believe I ever submitted to women. Being fair to women and submitting to them are different things. I lead by example and show those women that I am better and I show them that they can never hook me.
But yes, Misogyny is wrong. But that does not change the fact that I am a misogynist. Why do I say misogyny is wrong? Because hating is bad and nothing good comes of it. But as vilenord said, the true way of mgtow is learning to live without women and showing indifference to their approaches not hatred. But when they do cross the limits, don’t hold back. Other than that, try to lead by example. I know women are too stupid to see and too arrogant to accept that men are better, even if we lead by example, but I choose to be the better person here. so that, at the end of the day, I can go to sleep knowing that I was the better one and did not stoop down to their level. MGTOW.
BTW, why is it that whenever women say s~~~ like “All men are pigs” and stuff, all men just sit and listen. But try saying something like “All women are whores”, you’ll find all women as well as all men arguing against you. Why are all men so lacking (and I don’t mean mgtows) in self respect and are manginas?
You can hear Jennifer Anniston say “men are pigs” on the TV show “FRIENDS” to Joey – simply because a guy didn’t call her when she wanted him to. The audience of course laughs because thats’ a staple of comedy. But don’t for a second think men are just sitting and listening. Check out the “20-part misandry in the media” collection on youtube.
And actually, Ive heard women say “all women are whores” (including one of my own ex girlfriends)…. and you can hear them say it on our website right here
They love to behave and be treated like whores, but don’t want to admit that’s what they are. Just consider the way a woman loves to be treated like a prostitute on Valentine’s Day. DON’T treat her like a prostitute and watch what happens. Have you ever told a woman you refuse to treat women like prostitutes? They will get MAD at you.
Look at jewelry commercials:
THE MESSAGE: “Buy her a diamond and she will give you ALL of her affection on a day she normally would not“.
THE REALITY: “Treat her like a prostitute… and she will LOVE you for it.”
The only time women are NOT whores is when they expect no payment or condition to be met in order to have sex. If a simple sex-for-sex exchange is not enough for her, then she is a whore. Any woman who says “I will not have sex until (or unless) “ is a whore.
“I will NOT have sex unless he takes me out for 3 dinners first” = Whore.
“I will NOT have sex until he buys me a diamond or signs a marriage contract” = Expensive over-priced, unfulfilling whore.
“Fix the bathroom tiles or there will be no nookie for you tonight” = Whore in her own marriage.Unless she is having sex for no reason than fun and pleasure, she is a whore.
“Women are whores” is a true statement.
“Men are pigs” is a lie.PIGS are “pigs”. MEN are men.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.THANK YOU for saying that out loud. Damn I love these boards.
Please don’t devalue the common whore with such horrific talk comparing her to the “average” women. In fact whores are better than than the non-whoreish woman “average” woman. The whore tells you the price up front and cares not of anything else. That why Jesus had one. Whores are the most truthful woman there is. So please treat them with respect.
Hey Jedugger! To clarify I completely agree with you and this is clearly pointed out on our glossary page
I don’t have a problem with whores.
I have a problem with women who behave like whores…. while pretending they are NOT whores.
Thumbs up to you! And welcome.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I’m single, never married. I have sex with women when I visit “non-feminist” countries, especially classy women in Asia. The only “western” women I relate to in my every day life are my female relatives. Otherwise I reduce my contact with women from the feminist countries (Western Europe, North America, Australasia) as much as is politely possible. This is not always easy because like all of my male relatives, I attract them. My own home is a remote, secluded haven, otherwise I would’ve emigrated to Asia already.
I hate the feminist Establishment, not women. I’ve seen contact with “western” women wreck the lives of some very dear relatives. There’s no way that’s happening to me.
Well if you go by the feminist definition of misogyny then any man that has ever uttered one word that a female takes offense to is a misogynist. Now we call all see “Hatred” of women simply because they are women is misogynist. However if you dislike or distrust a woman this to qualifies as misogynist? I hate to break it to the people at Dictionary.com and Wiki but since when did I have to like all women or trust them to qualify as a non-misogynist? I will talk about liking someone or something first. Guess what I don’t like some black people (men and women included)(No offense to anyone). Now does that statement make me a raciest? Of course not because I did not state “all black people”. Now here is another thing, I can make a statement like that because not liking a person has nothing to do with their color, I normally just don’t like a person because they are an asshole. So no matter if the person is black, brown, yellow, white or plaid if your dislike of the individual is based on factor such as personality or trustworthiness then it is not raciest, it is a feeling about an individual. Now trusting is also another thing that ticks me off about these sites that claim they know the English language. So according to these walking organ donors by not trusting a woman that automatically makes me a misogynist? How high and how many drugs must they be taking to believe this s~~~? I have news for people, trust is earned not given. Now man, woman or child they are not given trust until they earn it from me. Just because she is a split tail does not mean she is entitled to my trust.
The definition of the word “misogynist” has taken some very ugly turns over the years. A logical person would state that misogyny is a hatred of women and solely because she is a woman. However this label is thrown around if you simply disagree with a woman. Things such as trust, liking or criticizing has nothing to do with hate. Most MGTOW men I have known do not hate women, they are just indifferent to them. However yes MGTOW’s will criticize a woman’s actions and this is not being misogynistic at all. Simply put if you feel that being a woman is above criticism then your trying to hide something. The feminist use tactics that they get right from the Stalin or Hitler’s play book. Basically any action taken or not taken is in some way a misogynistic action. Now they use misogyny in order to shame us into behaving like good little puppies that they want so they can continue to use the s~~~ out of us. So this crap about misogyny and it being tied to MGTOW is bulls~~~ in it’s purest form. Just because a man does not want anything to do with a woman does not define him as a misogynist. It defines the man as being aware of his surroundings and wise enough not to become a slave.
I think that MGTOW is not a defined group, as such. I do think that some men are attracted to this idea because they hate women and so their idea of “going their own way” is reactionary.
There is a cycle within the power struggle between men and women. A man wants vagina, so he spends money, time and effort on a woman. When she won’t give him what he wants despite giving over his life for it, then he gets angry. That anger might come out as direct aggression towards her, but more often than not it causes self-destruction. The man hurts himself because he doesn’t think himself worthy enough for vagina. If he commits a violent act, he will eventually seek restitution by giving time/effort/money to her or he may be forced to by law. If he withholds what he has to offer out of spite, he is shamed into giving or may be forced by the government to give. If he leaves the woman, now he has payments to make and psychological complex to disentangle while still seeking to get vagina or isolating himself because he is afraid of what he will do. When he does get vagina, the cycle starts all over again.
If I were addicted to a drug, I might resent the drug dealer for not giving me my dose no matter how much I paid or what I did, but the underlying problem is my addiction to the drug. If I solve that problem, then I no longer care what the drug dealer does because I’m no longer investing everything I have in getting high. Some of the MGTOW stuff I’ve seen sounds very nihilistic, but I am in this to reach a new level of understanding of myself and how I relate to women. What if I were no longer controlled by vagina? What if my interactions with women were not overtly or covertly about getting laid? What if I dealt with the conditioning that said I had to acquiesce to women or spend money on them or even care what they say or do any more than I would any other human being? Who would I be? What would I do? What could I accomplish? I don’t know, which is something I find intriguing.
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