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  • #64347
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    Anonymous
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    So, one thing that is interesting is that the SHTF community is listening to some Mgtow philosophy, and some preppers actually dumped their girlfriends after hearing some Mgtow advice, or so I heard. This is some interesting development as men start to wake up in areas that were not foreseen. I already saw a couple of videos when one of these guys mentions that.

    However, in one of his comments, one guy (woman?) tried to bail the females out by saying: “It is not the male of female fault, it is the corporations.” and then proceeded to post this link:

    esciencenews.com /articles/2015/03/04/study.men.tend.be.more.narcissistic.women

    At first I was skeptic, since there are videos where mgtows point out the bias in research in order to paint women on a more favorable light, at the detriment of men (case in point, men are smarter then women, as pointed on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YruxhWO8QSY).

    And, truth enough, what I suspected was confirmed as I read the article where it stated that, according to research, men are more narcissistic then women.

    Well, lets examine the article, shall we?

    Forthcoming in the journal Psychological Bulletin, the study compiled 31 years of narcissism research and found that men consistently scored higher in narcissism across multiple generations and regardless of age.

    “Narcissism is associated with various interpersonal dysfunctions, including an inability to maintain healthy long-term relationships, unethical behavior and aggression,” says lead author Emily Grijalva, PhD, assistant professor of organization and human resources in the UB School of Management.

    I see. So that would explain why men are the ones abandoning their partners, despite thinking their are great, and the ones preaching for polygamy, despite being happy with their current companion. Oh, wait, those are the women…

    And never mind the #Killallmen hashtags, “Misandry” and “I drink male tears” merchandizing. Those are not unethical at all. Neither are women aggressive, except the domestic violence they perpetuated against men, either directly or by proxy, or the violence they do against their children, or they constant demand for free abortions. Bot aggressive at all.

    The researchers examined more than 355 journal articles, dissertations, manuscripts and technical manuals, and studied gender differences in the three aspects of narcissism: leadership/authority, grandiose/exhibitionism and entitlement.

    Several interesting things on this paragraph alone. First, they put leadership/authority together with the exhibitionism and entitlement. Second, they research was based on journal articles, manuscripts and technical manuals. How about the REAL LIFE. How about look into women that divorce their husbands in order to be paid alimony and child support? Or the welfare queens? I would guess those are pretty narcissistic traits.

    They found the widest gap in entitlement, suggesting that men are more likely than women to exploit others and feel entitled to certain privileges.

    Oh yeah, I barely can see the gender studies creeping out this so called “research”. The forgot to mention “check you privilege”.

    The second largest difference was in leadership/authority. “Compared with women, men exhibit more assertiveness and desire for power,” Grijalva says. “But there was no difference in the exhibitionism aspect, meaning both genders are equally likely to display vanity or self-absorption.”

    Oh really? Did any of this researches looked at the case of Emma Sulkowicz and the PORNO she made, recounting her alleged rape? That seems to fit the bill.

    In addition, the study looked at data from college students between 1990 and 2013, and found no evidence that either gender has become more narcissistic over time.

    Emma Sulkowicz, Bahar Mustafa? Really?!?

    Research has shown that personality differences, like narcissism, can arise from gender stereotypes and expectations that have been ingrained over time. The authors speculate that the persistent lack of women in senior leadership roles may partially stem from the disparity between stereotypes of femininity and leadership.

    So the plot thickens. That is why they did that research. They want an excuse to put women in power, WITHOUT the merit.

    “Individuals tend to observe and learn gender roles from a young age, and may face backlash for deviating from society’s expectations,” Grijalva says. “In particular, women often receive harsh criticism for being aggressive or authoritative, which creates pressure for women, more so than for men, to suppress displays of narcissistic behavior.”

    Oh yeah, women are so suppressed nowadays. They can barely preach for white men to be killed, or make false rape allegations without any consequences. Sure, let’s put women in power without any merit. That will solve the case.

    Future research could further investigate the social, cultural or biological factors that contribute to these gender differences.

    Of course, because apparently, they haven’t kicked man enough.

    You know, this piece tells a lot of the academic world. I never saw a piece so detached of reality.

    This probably is just the beginning though.

    This should be archived, just i case…

    #64352
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    Anonymous
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    If men are more narcissistic than it is as a consequence of women being the same way which has made men focus more on themselves than worrying about trying to impress women which has been the standard for centuries.

    In terms of the study above it does just sound like another excuse to bash males and push feminism which in turn of course makes more men walk away from what women expect of them and then women being the vengeful lot they are say men are too self centered and if a man even tries to say he isn’t or mentions any of the points BadKan does then he will be tarred and feathered before you can say double standards.

     

    #64428
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    Anonymous
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    The second largest difference was in leadership/authority. “Compared with women, men exhibit more assertiveness and desire for power,” Grijalva says. “But there was no difference in the exhibitionism aspect, meaning both genders are equally likely to display vanity or self-absorption.”

    So, basically she’s agreeing that women are lazy and like to sit on their arses and let men do all the hard work. All her research proves is that she is a gender biased moron. She says both genders are equally likely to display vanity. Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the vainest of them all? Women.

    They get in the lifts at work and every one of them pampers themselves in the mirror. Embarrassing.

    Future research could further investigate the social, cultural or biological factors that contribute to these gender differences.

    It already has. A man has done proper scientific research. See Simon Baron-Cohen’s work on male and female pattern brains.

    I wonder if mgtow men are ahead of the curve because they have a stronger male pattern brain and have learned the system. Think Tesla, Leonardo and Eintsien as examples of great male systemising brains. Then imagine what happens when that male systemising genius gets turned against the gender biased system itself. Mgtow itself is a stroke of systemising genius and I’m sure there’s more to come.

    Narcissism is an indicator of a female pattern brains i.e. obsession with make up, clothes, shoes and callousness towards men. All the signs men should stay away from.

    My understanding is that there are females with a ‘male pattern brain’ (quite rare). That will be the next stage of human evolution. The modern narcissistic woman will be mgtow’d out of the gene pool and replaced by men deliberately breeding with women with male pattern brains. Not all men will want children, but it only takes a handful to do this to start the ball rolling. This is how evolution happens.

    #64431
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    Russky
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    Yeah, men are the ones who paint their faces for hours at a time in front of a mirror to look good. Bastards!

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

    #64474
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    ILiveAgain
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    Follow the money. Who fronted the cash for this tripe? … anyone? …. come on …. we all know ☺

    Ms Phd … over a study of 25 million people has discovered that black is white. Very controversial … but that’s the ‘research’ I’m afraid.

    Small print: Ms Phd is a board member of the white paint company.

    Come on guy’s …. you don’t need this crap to see with your own eyes.

    Look at what was going on in Germany in 39-45. Check out the ‘studies’ that were ‘revealing’ the new ‘truths’.

    Chair – hat – beer

    ILiveAgain Phd in Rats Ass

     

    #64485
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    JollyMisanthrope
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    Men are much more selfless and outgoing than women. We evolved to be providers so I don’t see how being narcissistic would help to fuel those instincts. People who sacrifice for the good of others because they feel compelled to are most likely not narcissists. The only way they would be is if they did it to fuel their egos without any altruistic motivation.

    The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
    #64504
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    Franky
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    Oh look “studies have shown” that men are bad in this way too.

    And about narcissism:The word narcissism came from the Greek tale of Narcis who was a male that rejected some females.For that great hubris he was punished by the gods to love his reflection.(i’m sure all of you know it but please bear with me). So basically this whole insult which means self-loving and full of himself and yada yada comes from a male who acted like your stereotypical female.Women are the walking embodiment of narcissism and their behavior is the reason the word came to exist in the first place.

    #64508
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    Mango Ingaway
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    Sure we’re the narcissistic ones, look at all these guys posting 984612165 photos of themselves on facebook, showing their body to get likes. Look at all these guys wearing super tight jeans that show their ass.

    Give me a break, lol

    It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

    #64526
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    Narwhal
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    Leadership/Authority is an aspect of narcissism? What a joke. While narcissism can drive someone to seek a leadership position, a leader, by definition, is in a position of leadership for the benefit of all his ‘followers’.  If all leaders where narcissistic, then we would be a completely leaderless society.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #64532
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    BONE
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    Lol yeah we’re more narcissistic, like I’m going to ask a friend “does these pants make my dick look big?”.

    #64553
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    Durden
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    I believe it is important to question the dynamics of who we are but this is just propaganda. I mean the studies are biased and their definitions of some very good qualities are throw into the drain because women are not naturally inclined to them.Its irresponsible and dangerous to put those in positions of power who have not earned it. People earn power through respect.

    Very few women are inclined to be leaders and that’s when men are not around or just not in the field.Their definition of narcissism is actually self reliance and basically  not giving everything you work for to people who have not earned it themselves.  Instead of the original greek of being in love with yourself to the point of self destruction. Which modern women are much more inclined to. I just see more shaming tactic used to stop men for actually thinking about their current situation.

    It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

    #64568
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    Vector Viking
    Vector Viking
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    First, as it has been pointed out already, consider the source. Narcissism is a psychological disorder and falls squarely in the wheelhouse of Psychology, not Business Management, and any studies done on the subject should be done by Ph. D.s in Psychology, not assistant professors of Organization and Human Resources.

    Second, who gives a s~~~? Narcissism may be more present in men, but it can be treated and/or harnessed for positive results. If a narcissist man believes it’s his destiny to cure cancer, be the greatest film director of all time, or end veteran homelessness, get the f~~~ out of his way and let him work!

    One psychological disorder that is related to NPD and proven to be more present in women than men is Borderline Personality Disorder. Follow this link only if you feel like being reminded of at least one of your exes:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/borderline-personality-disorder

    #64585
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    Anonymous
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    I’ve seen it all when it comes to narcissistic behavior! Does the word “bitch” mean anything to anyone here? Look at how women behave?  Everything’s about status, what “others” can do for them! I’ve been asked for “favors” allot more by women than men. Am I the only one that sees into this male utility culture? Women orchestrate their orbiters like some kind of maestro from hell, they’ll use a guy like a rag, then carelessly toss him away, all the while it’s just a child like game to them! The more a guy tries to satisfy her Queenie magisterial desires, the more he’s doomed by his own efforts!

    The whole paradigm of male/female relations has been grossly altered by the advent of feminism, women initiating divorce at a much greater rate than men, and the MGTOW phenomenon; where mostly logical orientated men have extrapolated from the world around them that women are (for whatever reason) not worth the risk, nor the time and effort, and offer no reward, instead an endless trail of destruction in the wake of feminism!

    So to answer BadCan; No, men “are not” the narcissistic ones, all fingers point to women being the self centered ones…

    Since when does a man keep orbiters, “his image”, and his orchestra as the pinnacle of his entire existence?

    Women are so turned on by themselves, that it has “permanently” turned me off…

    I’d rather cut my self, then go swimming flailing may arms and splashing with a bunch of hungry sharks!

    When the damage is done, it’s time to run! Let them smash this world to s~~~, then lay in its stench and complain, eventually they’ll starve to death, GOOD RIDDING!

    #64597
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    Treelville..miami
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    Please, women love to love themselves, talk about themselves, look at themselves in the vanity, snap pictures of themselves alter it and admire it for hours, dress for attention because narcissist crave attention to inflate their egos, and like KGB said they spend countless hours doing hair,makeup and nails.

    I dated this chick from Coral Gables shortly after high school, her mom was a divorcee on the prowl, this was before cougar became synonymous with divorcee, anyway I walk in the house and there’s this huge portrait of this woman and I mean huge almost the size of a man hanging high up on the wall. The portrait was just of her, no one else not her kids or anything just her, bitch loved herself a total and extreme narc. Single men barely have any pictures at their places, I know I don’t.

    "The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

    #64600
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    Anonymous
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    If at this point you haven’t figured out that government, academia, science, corporate culture, media and organized religion aren’t all designed for the benefit of females in the modern West, and that they are all willing to lie at all times, then you just haven’t been paying attention.

    I don’t take any studies or claims seriously by anyone. At this point, these entities have to work to regain my trust. I’m not a stupid teenager or twenty something anymore that just accepts every pile of s~~~ shoveled my way, I see no reason why I have to debate with people and convince anyone else either.

    MGTOW. I don’t trust these people and won’t waste energy even telling them so. Let the rest of society do what it wants, it’s been doing that all this time and none of my reasoned words and warnings every meant a fig anyway. Shame me all you want, dress up your shaming as “science” all you want, it doesn’t matter. I can see what it is, and I’m done caring. You went too far gynocracy, nothing you can do now will work on me.

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